Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:47 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: > >> On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >>> It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add >>> several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. >>

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:41:18 -0400, Przemek wrote: > On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add > > several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. > > Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/02/2010 12:09 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to fix and add > several more packages to it and confirm that it did indeed fix things. Maybe it's still being propagated, but when I did update --skip-broken followed by yum update, right now (Fri Jul

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 03:46:29AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > It's only in updates-testing yet. > > Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken > dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. people make mistakes. it happens, no big deal. p

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 03:46:29 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > It's only in updates-testing yet. > > Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken > dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. It's in stable now. The time in testing allowed us to

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > It's only in updates-testing yet. Now this is complete nonsense. The update is required to fix broken dependencies so it should go to stable IMMEDIATELY. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-07-01 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ralf Corsepius wrote: > To me this is a clear case of package-push which should not have > happened and is not related to karma votes at all. +1. The proper solution to prevent this kind of issues 100% reliably is to implement AutoQA, the only decent part of the Update Proposal and the one which

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 14:28:40 -0500, Michael wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > A_copy_ to users' list would suffice. Test updates are relevant to the > > users - and the build reports are sort of an early warning system about > > what updates will likely be unleashed. It's especially relevant t

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 14:28 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > A_copy_ to users' list would suffice. Test updates are relevant to the > > users - and the build reports are sort of an early warning system about > > what updates will likely be unleashed. It's especially

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Schwendt wrote: > A_copy_ to users' list would suffice. Test updates are relevant to the > users - and the build reports are sort of an early warning system about > what updates will likely be unleashed. It's especially relevant to the > users, when the updates aren't tested prior to enter

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 10:05:59 -0700, Adam wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 12:44 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: > > > > > It's only in updates-testing yet. > > > > Gah! :-/ > > > > I wonder whether after years the "Fedora N updates-testing repo

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 12:44 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: > > > It's only in updates-testing yet. > > Gah! :-/ > > I wonder whether after years the "Fedora N updates-testing report" could > finally be sent to users' list instead of test list?

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/29/10 3:44 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: > >> It's only in updates-testing yet. > > Gah! :-/ > > I wonder whether after years the "Fedora N updates-testing report" could > finally be sent to use

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-29 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 23:03:23 -0600, Kevin wrote: > It's only in updates-testing yet. Gah! :-/ I wonder whether after years the "Fedora N updates-testing report" could finally be sent to users' list instead of test list? Who can make that happen? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 06:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/29/2010 06:17 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > > > Updating F13 now works; > > Does it? > > Not for me. Sigh... You're right. Some other updates happened and I thought this one was included. But it just got skipped. -- Braden McD

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 29 Jun 2010 06:58:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 06/29/2010 06:17 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > > > Updating F13 now works; > > Does it? > > Not for me. It's only in updates-testing yet. Also, pidgin needed to be added to it. It failed rebuild due to a new tcl in the buildroot.

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/29/2010 06:17 AM, Braden McDaniel wrote: > Updating F13 now works; Does it? Not for me. ... Resolving Dependencies --> Running transaction check --> Processing Dependency: libedataserver-1.2.so.11 for package: pidgin-evolution-2.7.1-2.fc13.i686 --> Processing Dependency: libedataserver-1

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-28 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 16:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Can anybody tell me what went wrong with this update? It was submitted > at 15:09 on 06-23, then made it into testing at 16:19 on 06-24 and was > submitted for stable two hours later. B

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 12:14 -0400, Luke Macken wrote: > > The requirement for proventester feedback for critpath updates, when we > > turn it on, should also catch problems like this in the critpath. Evo > > isn't critpath, though, I believe. > > evolution-data-server is in the critpath, and havi

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 11:59 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 06/26/2010 11:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > Clearly the maintainer did not allow sufficient time for testing here; > > there's a grand 4 hour window between the update being 'pushed to > > testing' and 'submitted to stable'. That

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 06/26/2010 05:10 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > That would only work if the script that does the push to stable (as > opposed to processing the request to push to stable) checks if any > negative karma has appeared since the request has happened. Well, if there is a update push to stable request t

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Luke Macken wrote: > On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 22:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> I talked to notting &c about this earlier, and we've hit this situation >> before. The 'scenario' is simply that there's really no screening >> between 'submit' and 'push' for stable

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Luke Macken
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 22:50 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I talked to notting &c about this earlier, and we've hit this situation > before. The 'scenario' is simply that there's really no screening > between 'submit' and 'push' for stable updates, and this one was > submitted to stable before any

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 7:23 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 6/25/10 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> Until AutoQA is in place to tackle this, the obvious option is for there >> to be a process improvement whereby whoever's doing stable update p

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/26/2010 11:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Clearly the maintainer did not allow sufficient time for testing here; > there's a grand 4 hour window between the update being 'pushed to > testing' and 'submitted to stable'. That probably wasn't long enough for > it even to hit any public mirror

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6/25/10 10:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Until AutoQA is in place to tackle this, the obvious option is for there > to be a process improvement whereby whoever's doing stable update pushes > at least gets notified if a package has received negativ

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/26/2010 07:33 AM, Adam Miller wrote: > Sounds like it might need to be. Maybe push stable requests with -2 karma to > some list that requires investigation and possibly a +3 (or other agreed > upon number) proventesters karma to go stable? Would you mind to explain how could have happened:

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 16:27 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Can anybody tell me what went wrong with this update? It was submitted > at 15:09 on 06-23, then made it into testing at 16:19 on 06-24 and was > submitted for stable two hours later. Be

Re: Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Adam Miller
Sounds like it might need to be. Maybe push stable requests with -2 karma to some list that requires investigation and possibly a +3 (or other agreed upon number) proventesters karma to go stable? Just a thought. -AdamM (From Android) On Jun 25, 2010 6:27 PM, "Jesse Keating" wrote: -BEGIN

Evolution update in F13

2010-06-25 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Can anybody tell me what went wrong with this update? It was submitted at 15:09 on 06-23, then made it into testing at 16:19 on 06-24 and was submitted for stable two hours later. Between that submission and the push to stable (push to stable happene