Re: CoC

2020-03-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 08:51:04AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 08:18:35PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Friday, March 20, 2020 6:09:51 AM MST Ben Cotton wrote: > > > This thread is off-topic and not in the spirit of our Friends > > > foundation. Plea

Re: CoC

2020-03-22 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 08:18:35PM -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Friday, March 20, 2020 6:09:51 AM MST Ben Cotton wrote: > > This thread is off-topic and not in the spirit of our Friends > > foundation. Please refrain from further replies. > > It was not in the spirit of our Friends foundat

Re: CoC

2020-03-21 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, March 20, 2020 6:09:51 AM MST Ben Cotton wrote: > This thread is off-topic and not in the spirit of our Friends > foundation. Please refrain from further replies. > > -- > Ben Cotton > He / Him / His > Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream > Red Hat > TZ=America/Indiana/Indian

Re: CoC

2020-03-20 Thread Ben Cotton
This thread is off-topic and not in the spirit of our Friends foundation. Please refrain from further replies. -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Senior Program Manager, Fedora & CentOS Stream Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis ___ devel mailing list --

Re: CoC

2020-03-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/03/2020 12:50, Martin Langhoff wrote: > Apologies to Ty. I should have written instead: > > Daniel Pocock seems to have created a complicated situation with Debian, > which includes sock puppets and attempts at impersonation. > > Here is a good LWN article that tries to cover the topic >

Re: CoC

2020-03-20 Thread Martin Langhoff
ound at https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ > > cut off the trolling... > > > I do believe calling people "sock puppets" is a violation of the CoC. > Specifically, the "be respectful" section at the top. > > > Anyway, not the same person. I'd jump off a c

Re: CoC

2020-03-20 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 20/03/2020 04:33, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > Hi Martin, > > Please see the Fedora Code of Conduct[1]. Referring to other members of the > community as "sock puppets" falls a bit shy of "be excellent to each other", > in my opinion. > > 1: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/co

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread John M. Harris Jr
e one of the people > > > party to the conflict of interest had spread gossip about me and the > > > other used her speech at an event for humiliating volunteers. > > > > > > It feels like Codes of Conduct apply to some people and not others. As > > > G

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Ty Young
On 3/19/20 10:03 PM, Martin Langhoff wrote: Oh my - Daniel and his sock puppets come to bring mayhem to Fedora-devel? some background at https://lwn.net/Articles/814508/ cut off the trolling... I do believe calling people "sock puppets" is a violation of the CoC. Specificall

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Martin Langhoff
> > That topic itself was forced into the public because one of the people > > party to the conflict of interest had spread gossip about me and the > > other used her speech at an event for humiliating volunteers. > > > > It feels like Codes of Conduct apply to some people

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Michael Watters
This is one reason I vastly prefer decentralized platforms such as mailing lists and Usenet.  You can't unsend an email. On 3/19/2020 4:20 PM, Ty Young wrote: > Oh, and when called out about the censorship on places like Medium & > Reddit, people who apparently have the ability to uncensor threads

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Ty Young
e you seen Gnome's CoC? It literally allows racism. There was a bit of an uproar about it, and Gnome foundation/developers members refused to change it. (Gnome and Fedora are very incestous projects, so yes, it is relevant) Now that communism is the cool, hip ideology in town, Gnome/

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread John M. Harris Jr
> > > > > > That topic itself was forced into the public because one of the people > > > party to the conflict of interest had spread gossip about me and the > > > other used her speech at an event for humiliating volunteers. > > > > > > It fee

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:36 pm, Ty Young wrote: Have you seen Gnome's CoC? It literally allows racism. There was a bit of an uproar about it, and Gnome foundation/developers members refused to change it. https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct Clearly prohibits: "Sexi

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Hey folks. Just a reminder that this is the Fedora Devel list. Fedora devel related things are ontopic and this thread is drifting way away from those. :) If you want to discuss the Fedora code of conduct, I guess the council discuss list would be ok for that? Other topics might be better for

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 19/03/2020 20:46, Silvia Sánchez wrote: > > Hello, > > I just read Gnome Code of Conduct, which can be found > here:  https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct  > Can anyone explain in which line racism is allowed? > Also, what communism has to do with anything?  Aren't you getting a b

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Silvia Sánchez
> > It feels like Codes of Conduct apply to some people and not others. As > > George Orwell puts it, /All animals are equal but some animals are more > > equal than others/. > > > Have you seen Gnome's CoC? It literally allows racism. There was a bit > of an upr

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Neal Gompa
the > > other used her speech at an event for humiliating volunteers. > > > > It feels like Codes of Conduct apply to some people and not others. As > > George Orwell puts it, /All animals are equal but some animals are more > > equal than others/. > > > Have

Re: CoC

2020-03-19 Thread Ty Young
ch at an event for humiliating volunteers. It feels like Codes of Conduct apply to some people and not others. As George Orwell puts it, /All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others/. Have you seen Gnome's CoC? It literally allows racism. There was a bit of an uproa

Re: CoC (was: putting my blog back on Planet Fedora)

2020-03-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 12/03/2020 22:34, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Sat, Mar 07, 2020 at 11:33:04PM +0100, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> It is very, very wrong and I don't feel I should have to make a public >> request like this. Nonetheless, there is a certain type of person who > > Daniel, to request re-instatement, p