Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-19 Thread Gilles J. Seguin
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 08:09 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: [...] > There's now a rebuild of LLVM 3.1 for F17: > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=367092 The choice about what should be provided should be tagged - "Fast Moving Development" example boost libraries i lik

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-18 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2012 01:11 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kalev Lember wrote: >> I am a strong believer that new features should only be >> introduced in new Fedora releases. This is why we have releases >> after all: so that people could choose when they get new

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-18 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/17/2012 12:41 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:32 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > >> I guess for that it doesn't help that only one of the 4 >> llvm-libs shared libraries (libLLVM-3.*.so) has the version in >> its name, the other

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kalev Lember wrote: > I am a strong believer that new features should only be introduced in > new Fedora releases. This is why we have releases after all: so that > people could choose when they get new features. If they want > stability [1], they can choose not to upgrade; if they want new feature

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kalev Lember
On 11/16/2012 10:13 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the development > list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at backporting the > patches instead, though given that LLVM 3.2 is scheduled for release > next month, if we agree, going

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Jackson wrote: > This would actually make it easier to keep updated Mesa in older > releases. Right now if we backport Mesa 9 to F17 we'd have to disable > the radeonsi driver as it requires >= llvm 3.1. Good to hear that you're also in favor of this (since some people had voiced concerns a

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > ps has John Palmieri left Red Hat? As far as I know, yes, he has. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2012 21:49, Adam Jackson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:13 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > >> Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the >> development list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at >> backporting

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16/11/2012 22:32, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 09:49:19AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: >> That said, llvm consumers are difficult to keep in sync with >> llvm anyway. Many llvm projects seem like they pick a point >> release to buil

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:32 +0100, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > I guess for that it doesn't help that only one of the 4 llvm-libs > shared libraries (libLLVM-3.*.so) has the version in its name, the other > 3 clearly dependent on that one don't, eventhough I very much doubt they > are anywhere close to

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 09:49:19AM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > That said, llvm consumers are difficult to keep in sync with llvm > anyway. Many llvm projects seem like they pick a point release to build > against and then never get updated when the ABI changes. If we do this > we might want to s

Re: Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2012-11-16 at 16:13 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Sending this to the relevant package owners as well as the development > list - if there's too much pushback, I'll look at backporting the > patches instead, though given that LLVM 3.2 is scheduled for release > next month, if we a

Backporting LLVM 3.1 for Fedora 17

2012-11-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, While in the past I've shied away from bumping the LLVM version shipping with a Fedora release, it appears that there are enough users using Clang++ that the post-release breakage that happens when gcc-c++/libstdc++ is updated is really a chro