-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/18/2012 01:11 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kalev Lember wrote: >> I am a strong believer that new features should only be >> introduced in new Fedora releases. This is why we have releases >> after all: so that people could choose when they get new >> features. If they want stability [1], they can choose not to >> upgrade; if they want new features (new LLVM/Clang, new Mesa), >> they upgrade to a new Fedora release [2]. > > The issue here is that Clang can't compile ANY C++ program in > Fedora 17 as it is now. This is not about introducing a feature, > it's about making the software we ship actually WORK. > Right; I've been hesitant about upgrading LLVM in the past, but unfortunately post-release GCC updates have historically been major enough as to break clang++.
I'm tending towards upgrading the stack now, but if there are really strong objections, I could reconsider and work on backporting clang fixes from more recent branches. I note, however, that guidelines are guidelines, and there have been notable exceptions when the package maintainers deem upgrading is the better option -- KDE, and (soon) Haskell Platform, are provided as updates to stable releases. In this case, LLVM developers' policy is to *never* fix bugs in any tree but master and whichever release they're stabilizing at the moment (right now, 3.2), so it seems all the more reason to ship as up-to-date an LLVM package as possible - and if the maintainer of the only core component (mesa) dependent on this is amenable, I don't (IMHO) really see a problem myself. Regards, - -- Michel Alexandre Salim Fedora Project Contributor: http://fedoraproject.org/ Email: sali...@fedoraproject.org | GPG key ID: A36A937A Jabber: hir...@jabber.ccc.de | IRC: hir...@irc.freenode.net () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQqcNkAAoJEEr1VKujapN63kgH/iYeHOZjex0663gBOTDC3hak sXKu2Y4UCkB0CNI8jCrJ3KjtSPfEwK1GNym63UKUkO3LUDzuAsa1PTbODWrstvav COhwxdkwthsPo8o/YVNzb6B7sz/S1Xl4Lh7hhbkCZ1YihW742bRe2pxxUbajISHf 3GM8RUlc3uxywvUslOLB1JFK+6LHMT5DGyLDxPILC7hasYLCUkguiu6esIRUGHcH 7xlOrlBIbUA2B7GAjKmi3fdvmV59304GQcENsoYfz9reB5aZK/Im+UiRxe08EojW eOVjH6MxJoopB8ryJOV2u3iZ7NBGGipZWx3COPyg7VsMzAA2zv3GczmxcOtCfUc= =hI58 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
