Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2013-07-02 18:44, Chris Murphy wrote: On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:28 PM, John Reiser wrote: On 07/02/2013 Matthew Garrett wrote: GNOME runs fine without hardware 3D support, but the llvmpipe code that makes that possible segfaults on ARM. Gnome3 Desktop is unusable on i686 with RV280 video ca

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Chris Murphy
On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:28 PM, John Reiser wrote: > On 07/02/2013 Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> GNOME runs fine without hardware 3D support, but the llvmpipe code that >> makes that possible segfaults on ARM. > > Gnome3 Desktop is unusable on i686 with RV280 video card driven by llvmpipe. > XFCE a

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread John Reiser
On 07/02/2013 Matthew Garrett wrote: > GNOME runs fine without hardware 3D support, but the llvmpipe code that > makes that possible segfaults on ARM. Gnome3 Desktop is unusable on i686 with RV280 video card driven by llvmpipe. XFCE and MATE *do* run just fine using the classic ati driver. ht

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 11:14:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > I agree but it's not exactly maintainer on x86, ARM or otherwise which > was the point I made previously. The LLVM problem isn't necessarily > just an ARM problem. Not disagreeing, but the fact that you're the ones hitting it does

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:49:18PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > >> Not pretty but we're severely limited by resources and ability and >> there's a reason we don't currently ship the a gnome build. > > LLVM is part of Fedora, and to the ex

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:49:18PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > Not pretty but we're severely limited by resources and ability and > there's a reason we don't currently ship the a gnome build. LLVM is part of Fedora, and to the extent that it contains ARM-specific code it's the ARM porters' r

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 07/02/2013 02:49 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: Yes... that would be great if the LLVM maintainer would step up and help out with the issues oops we don't have one of those [1]! Getting any form of support for LLVM on ARM has been like pushing shit up hill and has been an issue for the 2.5 year

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:28:03PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> > GNOME runs fine without hardware 3D support, but the llvmpipe code that >> > makes that possible segfaults on A

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:28:03PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > GNOME runs fine without hardware 3D support, but the llvmpipe code that > > makes that possible segfaults on ARM. > > gnome runs fine on ARM as well without llvmpipe suppo

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 04:38:30PM -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: >> >> > In particular, the GNOME image is missing. I would not say it has all >> > the features of the primary architect

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:16:45PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: >> 2013-07-02 22:00, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> > I has them, they may not all work. >> >> In particular, the GNOME image is missing. I would not say it has all >> the features of t

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:21 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: >>> 2013-07-02 22:00, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, J

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread drago01
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 11:20 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: >> 2013-07-02 22:00, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 >>> Matthew Garrett wrote: >>> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >>>

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > 2013-07-02 22:00, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > >> On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 >> Matthew Garrett wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >>> Fedora ARM has all the features of the primary architectur

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 04:38:30PM -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > > > In particular, the GNOME image is missing. I would not say it has all > > the features of the primary architectures when it doesn't include the > > Fedora default desktop. >

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/02/2013 08:38 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Kalev Lember > wrote: In particular, the GNOME image is missing. I would not say it has all the features of the primary architectures when it doesn't include the Fedora default

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: > In particular, the GNOME image is missing. I would not say it has all > the features of the primary architectures when it doesn't include the > Fedora default desktop. > This is mostly because of a lack of video drivers on ARM hardware, as I

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:16:45PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: > 2013-07-02 22:00, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > I has them, they may not all work. > > In particular, the GNOME image is missing. I would not say it has all > the features of the primary architectures when it doesn't include the > Fedora

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Kalev Lember
2013-07-02 22:00, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 > Matthew Garrett wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >> >>> Fedora ARM has all the features of the primary architectures >> >> Is this really accurate? >> > > I has them, they ma

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On 2013-07-02 13:07, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/02/2013 08:04 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:00:43PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 >Matthew Garrett wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > >

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/02/2013 08:04 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:00:43PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: >On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 >Matthew Garrett wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > >Fedora ARM has all the features of the primary arch

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 03:00:43PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 > Matthew Garrett wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > Fedora ARM has all the features of the primary architectures > > Is this really accurate? > > I ha

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Jul 2013 20:18:06 +0100 Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > > Fedora ARM has all the features of the primary architectures > > Is this really accurate? > I has them, they may not

Re: Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 02, 2013 at 10:33:26AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Fedora ARM has all the features of the primary architectures Is this really accurate? -- Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

[Test-Announce] Announcing the release of Fedora 19 for ARM!

2013-07-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Fedora ARM Project is delighted to announce the release of Fedora 19 ("Schrödinger's Cat"). Open the box and take a look for yourself! Fedora is a leading-edge, free and open source operating system that continues to deliver innovative features to