Re: "fedpkg local" builds fail for rust packages

2024-04-05 Thread Scott Schmit
On Thu, Apr 04, 2024 at 10:41:19PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > If you really don't mind jumping through multiple hoops just because > you want to use "fedpkg local" instead of "fedpkg mockbuild", then I > guess I can't stop you. > > All I *can* do is tell you that you're not going to like the

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-04-01 Thread Scott Schmit
t can be run by others to check that the included binary is legit. Call it "Reproducible Tests" to go along with reproducible builds. Cryptography has the same concept now, learning from the Dual EC DBRG backdoor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing-up-my-sleeve_number So "nothing-up

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Scott Schmit
On Mon, Apr 01, 2024 at 09:06:16AM +0900, Dominique Martinet wrote: > Scott Schmit wrote on Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 05:02:44PM -0400: > > Deleting the tests makes no sense to me either, but it seems like a > > mechanism that ensures the test code can't change the build outputs (o

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-31 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 04:09:36PM -0400, Ben Beasley wrote: > On 3/31/24 2:12 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > But the fact is: > > > > What WOULD have stopped this attack: (one or more of:) > > * Deleting ALL unit tests in %prep (and then of course not trying to run > > them later). > While

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make btrfs the default file system for desktop variants

2020-07-04 Thread Scott Schmit
$ touch file $ lsattr -v file 628580 file ## ^ no change... ## data change: $ echo test > file $ lsattr -v file 628580 file ## ^ still no change $ rm file $ touch file $ lsattr -v file 628582 file ## ^ now different -- Sco

Re: User experience issue on btrfs

2020-07-04 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 10:37:43AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:29 PM Scott Schmit wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 03:40:11PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > > > Databases and VM images are things btrfs is bad at out of the box. > >

Re: User experience issue on btrfs

2020-07-02 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 03:40:11PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Databases and VM images are things btrfs is bad at out of the box. > Most of this has to do with fsync dependency of other file systems. > Btrfs is equipped to deal with an fsync heavy world out of the box, > using treelog enabled by d

Re: Please, IMHO, resolve in some way the Samba MIT kerberos problem.

2019-11-06 Thread Scott Schmit
On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 03:14:34PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote: > Il giorno lun, 04/11/2019 alle 08.38 -0500, Neal Gompa ha scritto: > > What defines it as experimental? > > https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Running_a_Samba_AD_DC_with_MIT_Kerberos_KDC > > Using MIT Kerberos is still considered experi

Re: F30 System-Wide Change Proposal: Fully remove deprecated and unsafe functions from libcrypt

2019-01-19 Thread Scott Schmit
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 12:05:46PM +0100, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 15.01.2019, 23:16 -0500 schrieb Scott Schmit: > > On Wed, Jan 02, 2019 at 04:14:59PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > == Documentation == > > > The version of the libxcryp

Re: F30 System-Wide Change Proposal: Fully remove deprecated and unsafe functions from libcrypt

2019-01-15 Thread Scott Schmit
ecurity of the user's sensitive data silently." Especially since it appears that this will the wording that goes into the release notes. > == Release Notes == > See the paragraph about documentation above. See objections above. -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s De

Re: F27 System Wide Change: perl Package to Install Core Modules

2017-06-16 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 03:35:46PM +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > > > What does "Recommends" do on upgrade? > > > > > > > > In other words if Recommends was used and a new perl version had > > > > new modules in > > > > the core package would an upgrade of perl pull them in as you > > > > would e

Re: F26 System Wide Change: Enable TRIM pass down to encrypted disks

2017-02-06 Thread Scott Schmit
On Mon, Feb 06, 2017 at 11:15:59AM +0100, Ondrej Kozina wrote: > On 02/03/2017 05:42 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > > > > Also what are the risks of enabling this? > > There's nice overview for it: > http://asalor.blogspot.cz/2011/08/trim-dm-crypt-problems.html > > In short (beside other facts

Re: crypto-policies not very useful, FUTURE too strict?

2016-12-17 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 01:07:52PM -0500, Scott Schmit wrote: > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 06:05:49PM +0100, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > > Maybe we need to rename FUTURE by QUITE_SOON instead, because the > > error you have pointed is about sha-1 been deprecated: > > > > Acc

Re: crypto-policies not very useful, FUTURE too strict?

2016-12-17 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 06:05:49PM +0100, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > Maybe we need to rename FUTURE by QUITE_SOON instead, because the > error you have pointed is about sha-1 been deprecated: > > According to this blog, chrome will remove support for sha-1 > certificates on 1 January 2017 (it's an o

Re: CVE-2016-8655, systemd, and Fedora

2016-12-13 Thread Scott Schmit
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 05:54:54PM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 12/13/2016 12:17 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mon, 12.12.16 21:22, Paul Wouters (p...@nohats.ca) wrote: > > > For us (libreswan) it probably makes less sense to restrict address > > > family in the daemon. Our daemon just

Re: Some preliminary Fedora 25 stats — and future release scheduling

2016-12-09 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 11:29:29AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Ah thanks. I have fixed the title and added a reverse stacked graph > > https://smooge.fedorapeople.org/fedora-all-stacked-ma.png What happened in late 2014? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___

Re: RFC: Change the default hostname for Fedora 26+

2016-11-11 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sat, Nov 12, 2016 at 03:33:10PM +1030, Glen Turner wrote: > > RFC 2606[1] reserves several TLDs that may never be registered for > > public usage. Out of those, going with > > Fedora-.localhost > > seems like the best bet. > > The *reason* localhost is a reserved name is to discourage

Re: TPMs, measured boot and remote attestation in Fedora

2016-04-24 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 01:15:15AM +0200, Lars Seipel wrote: > On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 02:57:55PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > Remote attestation is a mechanism by which […] > > > > How does the remote machine know that what is answering is a physical TPM > > and no

Re: F24 Self Contained Change: Ping IPv6

2016-01-22 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 09:42:11AM +0100, Jan Kurik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Ping IPv6 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/PingIpv6#Ping_IPv6 > > Change owner(s): > * Jan Synacek, Nikos Mavrogiannopoulos > > ping should be able to work with IPv6 and IPv4 addresses, elimi

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-07 Thread Scott Schmit
ur > zones. I think that's a completely fair requirement to make, and if > you did sign your domains then this should really mean "don't allow > anything below my domain except what I define here or delegated". Why would you say that? Split horizon with DNSS

Re: F24 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2015-12-07 Thread Scott Schmit
domain is not secured and the spoofing will still work as long as the local name server uses the name server provided by the router for its answers. I think this is the default as long as the router supports recursive resolution, EDNS0, and doesn't corrupt RRSIG/NSEC/... records. -- Scott S

Re: DNF could improve messages about package auto-removal

2015-12-04 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:54:44PM -0500, James Antill wrote: > On Fri, 2015-12-04 at 15:55 +0100, David Tardon wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2015 at 04:13:56PM -0500, James Antill wrote: > > > That helps, but then what? The user understands (s)he now has to find > > > out how to fix it, and they hav

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2015-11-11)

2015-11-12 Thread Scott Schmit
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 01:54:32PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > === > #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2015-11-11) > === The meeting summary isn't showing the resolutions from the meetings properly. Reading the summary... > Meeting summary >

Re: Fedora IPv6 testing and improvements - request for ideas

2015-11-03 Thread Scott Schmit
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 01:12:09PM -0500, Pavel Simerda wrote: > You can of course have combinations. We can add that once we have > specific test cases that would show importance of a standalone category > for such a setup. Otherwise one would usually view IPv6 global and IPv6 > local communicatio

SELinux & disabled IPv6 (was: Re: Fedora IPv6 testing and improvements - request for ideas)

2015-11-03 Thread Scott Schmit
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 09:50:53AM -0800, Moez Roy wrote: > The IPv6 updates are breaking stuff (and probably increasing the > attack surface): > > Bug 1231946 - unbound-anchor ignores net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1 > in /etc/sysctl.conf > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1231946 > >

Re: Fedora IPv6 testing and improvements - request for ideas

2015-10-29 Thread Scott Schmit
On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 11:15:10AM -0400, Pavel Simerda wrote: > I am writing to Fedora development mailing lists to get opinions > and ideas regarding our project on improving IPv6 support in > Fedora across its components. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Networking > > Most prominent subp

Re: Proposal to reduce anti-bundling requirements

2015-09-18 Thread Scott Schmit
On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 09:09:47PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 14.09.2015 um 21:04 schrieb Adam Williamson: > >But just two posts ago you were drawing a distinction between an 'OS' > >and a 'distribution' and saying that Fedora ought to be a distribution > >not an OS. > > > >So basically you'r

Re: initscripts

2015-01-27 Thread Scott Schmit
andling DHCPv6-PD (a strong non-laptop use case for NM if I ever saw one), I was told that router configurations were out of scope for NM (at least, at that point in time). Has that changed? (Or maybe I'm misremembering some nuance...) -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptog

Re: Abotu setting 'PermitRootLogin=no' in sshd_config

2014-11-26 Thread Scott Schmit
k you. > > We can install machine w/o user accounts, removing the ability to log > in as root via ssh means those machines will not be accessible. > > If you want to remove root access that should be conditionally done at > firstboot only if a user account was created. It seem

Re: New Group Calls For Boycotting Systemd

2014-09-05 Thread Scott Schmit
collected 745 messages of discussion, mention in automated emails, etc. And this was all before it ever went into a release as the default init system. And I'm only counting messages on fedora-devel. -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list d

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-19 Thread Scott Schmit
users from ever getting the default shell due to the configuration of authorized_keys. However, it doesn't need/want a password allowing standard login (though the admin will do "su - gitolite" from root for initial setup or version migration). See http://gitolite.com/gitolite/how.html fo

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-19 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 12:23:42PM -0500, Scott Schmit wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:47:37PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > > > I replaced the typo scriplet -> scriptlet in several places in that page, > >

Re: SELinux RPM scriplet issue annoucement

2014-01-19 Thread Scott Schmit
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:47:37PM -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > > I replaced the typo scriplet -> scriptlet in several places in that page, > > including the anchor link. Don't know if that breaks any existing links. > > Thanks. I just se

Re: $HOME/.local/bin in $PATH

2013-10-30 Thread Scott Schmit
ory. I remember doing this at school when I was using lab machines. What's the issue here? -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-02-07 Thread Scott Schmit
yes, the device name will change, and it will matter. The analogy I heard that defends this behavior is to think of the USB network device as a mere converter between USB and the network -- you wouldn't expect to be able to plug a network cable into an arbitrary slot, would you? -- Scott Schm

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-02-05 Thread Scott Schmit
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 03:03:08PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Scott Schmit wrote: > > Current: > > em1 -> enp2s0 > > That is expected, and actually the right thing to do. Udev cannot > apply such "it looks like it is embedded&

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: firewalld Rich Language

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Schmit
> allows to easily create complex firewall rules without the knowledge > of iptables syntax. Where is this language documented, or is it still to be designed? -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:/

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: AnacondaNewUI Followup

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Schmit
eature entirely). Or is anaconda dropping shrink/resize support for good? -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd/udev Predictable Network Interface Names

2013-01-31 Thread Scott Schmit
dora 17, dhcp4 broke & I had to set up my network interface manually until I could get the appropriate packages updated -- knowing which was my wired interface was really helpful then! (And yes, upgrades don't rename anything. Imagine it was a 19 -> 20 upgrade with the same problem.) -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-16 Thread Scott Schmit
't be going that route? -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-14 Thread Scott Schmit
can be deselected in a kickstart config without needing to rpm -e it in %post. -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Maybe highlight release-slipping features? (was: Re: Anaconda is totally trashing the F18 schedule)

2012-10-31 Thread Scott Schmit
ed to be, and pushed it out a release when it was recognized that it would be too disruptive for F14. On the other hand, New Installer UI seems to have slipped through the cracks. Just an idea... -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-28 Thread Scott Schmit
; This optimizes the migration path at the cost of making the final > state ugly; I'm not sure that is a good bargain. Once F20 rolls out and F17 goes EOL, maintainers can simply s/systemd_post_enable/systemd_post/ and then things won't be so ugly (or final). -- Scott Schmit sm

Re: small tip regarding git branch bash prompt in F18/Rawhide

2012-08-23 Thread Scott Schmit
metimes those "examples" are so complete that they're usable as is (scripts, xslt files, etc). -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Mass changes to packaging

2012-08-22 Thread Scott Schmit
macros for pre-F18 that are no-ops F18+ and make the F18+ macros no-ops pre-F18. Then have packagers put both in (or maintain two versions of the spec file). It's kind of ugly, but it sounds like it's that or wait until F20 before maintainers start picking up the new macros (unless the

Re: configuration files created by Anaconda exclusively

2012-08-09 Thread Scott Schmit
rial console installations, and > can configure a bootloader password. > > See pyanaconda/bootloader.py , around line 1730 (that's in the f17 > branch) - write_defaults(self) . Is there some reason this can't be refactored into a standalone executable that is included in one of the g

Re: prelink should not mess with running executables

2012-07-16 Thread Scott Schmit
not reasonable unless you have 100% control over everything that runs on your system (and take full responsibilty for controlling it) and likewise for anyone else using the software. Even then, the time would be better spent changing your software to use the interface correctly (or use a more appropriate one) so you never have problems. -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Set bash's shell option nullglob by default?

2012-07-13 Thread Scott Schmit
So the main gain > will be the people will learn how is the globbing in bash and in the > whole environment working. So ls *.foo should list the entire directory if no files match *.foo? It's a bad habit for me to expect ls *.foo to return nothing in this case? You're going to need t

Re: F18 DNF and history

2012-07-06 Thread Scott Schmit
ed this on in my yum.conf and this is the first upgrade where yum offered to remove packages. You'll want to be careful how packages are specified during the install: the latest upgrade of dracut no longer requires plymouth. Since nothing else does, yum was offering to uninstall it for m

Re: Revelation password manager issue

2012-06-14 Thread Scott Schmit
thinking (or, will have me thinking about it when I have cycles to spare) whether I did this well enough, but the premise is sound. -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-11 Thread Scott Schmit
igh bar. "Computer-friendly" is defined as a user that can download our distribution and install it, as long as we can give *clear instructions* on how to do so, without requiring them to troubleshoot problems or figure out how secure boot works. Right now, we're missing the "

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-01 Thread Scott Schmit
know enough about the interface between the secure boot firmware and OS to know if the OS can even tell what trusted keys are available. I know that the OS can't update the trusted key set itself -- that must be done by the user via the firmware directly. The OS can update the blacklists

Feature process (was: Re: /usrmove?)

2012-02-10 Thread Scott Schmit
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:58:32AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > The feature process is currently being revised, and at least some of > these issues have been brought up at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fixing_features . What would be > especially useful is to find ways to improve the feature

Re: The question of rolling release?

2012-01-25 Thread Scott Schmit
e a major customer demo or other Big Important Time-Sensitive Event, and the thing(s) you need to make it happen break--not because of bugs, but because unwanted "features" like configuration file changes, ABI changes, etc made your stuff stop working until you stop everything and fix whateve

daemon(7) (was: Re: Heads Up: FESCo is considering to block packages providing sysvinit services without systemd unit)

2011-11-12 Thread Scott Schmit
aemon man page", "man daemon section 7", etc turns up nothing. There is a man page for daemon(3), but it doesn't look like the man page you seem to be citing. Thanks! -- Scott Schmit smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.f

Re: rubygem macro error

2011-11-10 Thread Scott Schmit
ruby/gems/1.8/doc/pg-0.11.0/ri/PGconn/internal_encoding%253d-i.yaml ^ This is because the % character is reserved. Had the file name been "internal_encoding=.yaml", the URL would have been: file:///usr/lib/ruby/

Re: GNOME3 and au revoir WAS: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-17 Thread Scott Schmit
NOME3 (albeit in Javascript instead of C). That's tantamount to saying "if you don't like it, you can always fork the code!" It also ignores that not all users are developers or that not all those who are want to rewrite/modify GNOME3. -- Scott Schmit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: conclusion: F15 / systemd / user-experience

2011-06-13 Thread Scott Schmit
update (hangs with no oops recorded to the log, for example). Thankfully, that's rare, but I'd argue that it's *because of* that conservatism, not in spite of it. -- Scott Schmit -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-21 Thread Scott Schmit
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:36:34PM +1000, Dave Airlie wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 04:25 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > i.e. the "enable"/"disable" commands makes some changes for the next > > time they are looked at, and then adding --realize on top makes those > > changes take effect imme