On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 04:09:36PM -0400, Ben Beasley wrote:
> On 3/31/24 2:12 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > But the fact is:
> > 
> > What WOULD have stopped this attack: (one or more of:)
> > * Deleting ALL unit tests in %prep (and then of course not trying to run
> > them later).
> While it’s technically correct that deleting tests would have disrupted this
> specific attack, a policy of deleting and and never running upstream test
> code would have prevented me from finding and helping upstreams fix dozens
> and dozens of bugs due to accidentally faulty assumptions that turned out to
> be violated on different architectures, in different system environments, or
> with various allegedly-compatible dependency versions. There are even GCC
> bugs (miscompilations, not only failures to compile) that were discovered
> and fixed only because packages I maintain were running upstream unit and
> integration tests. Frankly, “testing the packages we ship, as built in our
> distribution, is actually bad” seems like a pretty strange and extreme
> conclusion to draw from all of this.

Deleting the tests makes no sense to me either, but it seems like a
mechanism that ensures the test code can't change the build outputs (or
a mechanism to detect that it's happened and abort the build) would
allow upstream tests to be run without compromising the integrity of the
build itself.

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