Re: Remove openh264?

2025-04-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 29 2025 at 11:56:15 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: For context on this, see: https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12617 And also: https://github.com/cisco/openh264/security/advisories/GHSA-m99q-5j7x-7m9x -- ___ devel mailing list

Re: Remove openh264?

2025-04-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Too bad dnf does not tell us *why* there are "conflicting requests." On Tue, Apr 29 2025 at 11:00:18 AM -05:00:00, Chris Adams wrote: I'm asking because there's a high-priority CVE on openh264 for months that doesn't seem like it's progressing towards getting resolved in Fedora. For context

Re: F42 Change Proposal: CMake drop non-standard variables (system-wide)

2025-04-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Apr 17 2025 at 10:28:21 AM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Sorry, but I'm still skeptical about this change. I don't see any real benefits for Fedora. I only see additional pain for maintainers. Hmm, but it is one-time pain. If you use a nonstandard variable, your package w

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:40:43 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I've no argument that Webex is hot proprietary garbage, just saying that it was once noted as being a blocker. Let's agree that anything we cannot fix also cannot be a blocker. Third-party proprietary software has had two

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 12:31:48 PM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: This is rude and uncalled for. The Flatpak is an unsupported way to use Steam since it has issues with gamepads, can't access game drives, and messes with the built-in sandbox provided by Steam. OK, but we surely cannot block i

Re: Discussion about dropping qemu builds on i686

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 05:18:06 PM +01:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: What about Webex, the awful video conferencing software? I've no desire to investigate this, but ISTR it linked to system i686 libs. Irrelevant. Webex has a web UI. Use that instead. Continuing to build i686 packages jus

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 12:23:06 AM +02:00:00, Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: I've opened a PR which restores gdm/X11 support at: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gdm/pull-request/28# It builds, I'll be able to test it in a few hours, but anybody is free and welcome to give it a try once the

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I think the practical effect of the lightweight process will be: new contributor likely becomes the de facto maintainer of the package, while bug reports continue to be assigned to the non-responsive main admin. Maybe it's better to just rip the band-aid off and acknowledge that when a main

Re: RFC: Lightweight stalled request process

2025-04-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 15 2025 at 01:19:10 AM +02:00:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: The non-responsive maintainer process requires that the maintainer is *entirely unresponsive*, which is a much higher bar than for this proposed, less-consequential process. If the maintainer is not unresponsive, why can't y

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
So on the one hand, it seems a little petty for Fedora to disable X11 support in gdm before upstream does. It's notably still enabled by default in upstream GNOME 48 and in git master. On the other hand, if we're confident upstream is likely going to remove the X11 support relatively soon, t

Re: GDM dropped support for running X11 sessions in F42 without a Change?

2025-04-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Apr 9 2025 at 05:51:00 PM -07:00:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: If you aren't using gnome and want X11 sessions, you should have switched to another display manager long ago. When gdm switched to being a gnome session in the greeter... I'm not sure how many years ago that was now. I think th

Re: packaging: prefer git archives to upstream archives for Source

2025-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 31 2025 at 08:09:49 PM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: OK, I guess I need to work on my English. You're the second person who read the abovequoted part in the exact opposite way to what I intended :( Hm, well I misread. You didn't write the wrong thing. But honestly

Re: packaging: prefer git archives to upstream archives for Source

2025-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 31 2025 at 10:53:54 AM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: This is only "SHOULD", because sometimes the git tarball is too large or has other deficiencies. Another reason is that the "upstream tarball" may be signed, and that'd be preferred to the unsigned "raw" archive. B

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Fabio is going to handle builds. Thank you, Fabio! -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/cod

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
It seems nothing except GStreamer has been rebuilt. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/co

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
It's been more than one week. Are we ready to land this side tag? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en

Re: Builds and updates missing from Fedora 42 compared to Fedora 41

2025-03-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I'm pretty concerned that we have no automation to catch these problems. Would we have even noticed if not for you manually checking and complaining here on devel@? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an e

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Mar 8 2025 at 06:27:19 AM -08:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: If I'm answering that question for myself, I would say that the biggest feature gap that we have from a modern build system like the Open Build Service is that we as packagers have to do dependency resolution for building groups of p

Re: Konflux: What is the right time?

2025-03-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Mar 10 2025 at 11:11:33 AM +00:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Thanks for this link. The instance is: https://konflux.apps.kfluxfedorap01.toli.p1.openshiftapps.com/application-pipeline I played around for about 3 minutes and am very confused. The overview page looks like an adverti

Possible to use 'fedpkg mockbuild' with a side tag?

2025-03-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, I am wondering if it is possible to use 'fedpkg mockbuild' to easily build for a side tag. I know that it's possible by using 'koji mock-config' and then 'fedpkg mockbuild --mock-config' but this is not easy since it requires creating a local mock configuration file. Would be nice if it we

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
The new noopenh264 is now available in the side tag. Packagers, please start your builds! -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https:/

Re: SONAME BUMP openh264

2025-03-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Mar 4 2025 at 02:46:12 PM -00:00:00, Leigh Scott wrote: You will need to update noopenh264 to match openh264 Yes, noopenh264 is what packages are actually built against. We'll need to do a new noopenh264 build using f43-build-side-106953 first, then once that's finished other maintai

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Switch to JXL format for Default Wallpaper (self-contained)

2025-02-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Feb 24 2025 at 01:54:15 PM -05:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Didn't we already do this? I adapted KDE Plasma, MiracleWM, LXQt, and COSMIC for this in F42 already. And now GNOME is switching back to regular JPEG, see: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/6886#note_2360630 htt

Re: Proposal for vendoring/bundling golang packages by default

2025-01-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jan 21 2025 at 05:13:07 AM -05:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: We know it's possible because this is how openSUSE works today. They never schedule mass builds because they always happen automatically with the right conditions, so it's a non-event. This is the direction we should be going, but b

Re: Looking for gtk3 + cmake advice for an older package (puzzles)

2025-01-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Guess: is it caused by -Wl,as-needed? You could try this workaround in the spec file and see if that helps: %undefine _ld_as_needed The proper fix is surely to link libcore.so to everything that it needs (glib, cairo, and the libcommon which provides spectre_tiling_params_invalid) but this

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 29 2024 at 08:09:20 PM -05:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Indeed. This stuff should work out of the box. It is unacceptable to break it like this. Looks like it's fixed by pkcs11-provider-0.6-2, which is a sabotage update to turn off pkcs11-provider until the problem can be fixed prope

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Nov 20 2024 at 04:03:27 PM +01:00:00, Clemens Lang wrote: That was the case with openssl-pkcs11 (the package that contains the OpenSSL PKCS#11 ENGINE) for years. The use of PKCS#11 tokens is not very common. I don’t think it’s too much to ask to install an additional package if you want

Re: pkcs11-provider update breaks eduroam

2024-11-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Nov 20 2024 at 11:09:05 AM +01:00:00, Clemens Lang wrote: The idea here was to auto-enable pkcs11-provider when it is installed, which still makes sense to me. The issue here I think is that many people ended up with pkcs11-provider installed because of a recommendation. We should remo

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Nov 7 2024 at 02:41:08 PM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: Any idea what I am doing wrong? Probably nothing. dconf is a lower layer than gsettings. You've changed the default value in gsettings, which is what you're supposed to do. I suggest you just forget about dconf; that's an ir

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Nov 7 2024 at 04:40:07 PM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: I can't find much documentation, but how to properly override relocatable schema? A, OK, so that's the problem. If it worked, then the syntax would be: [schema:path] e.g. [org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys.

Re: Fedora 42: The Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything

2024-11-04 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Nov 4 2024 at 10:52:18 AM -05:00:00, Stephen Gallagher wrote: For the sake of keeping the conversation in one place, I do ask that you reply on the Discussion thread, rather than on Fedora Devel, please. Heh, that was a good joke! -- ___ de

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 1 2024 at 05:13:49 PM +01:00:00, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: Ok, thanks. Following questions arised here now: - An explanation, why its bad would bring some light into this. Dconf is not the only possible GSettings backend. E.g. if your RPM gets used to build a Flatpak app, t

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 1 2024 at 03:13:21 PM +01:00:00, Leon Fauster via devel wrote: I had the impression that globally installed configurations (e.g. /etc/dconf/db/local.d/) should be "committed" with # dconf update No, don't do this. For the same reason you never package dconf overrides, you also nev

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-11-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Nov 1 2024 at 11:04:51 AM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: Hello Michael, this seems to be what I am searching for. But any idea how to package this properly? Is it enough to install the file and mention it in the %files section? Yes. Or do I have to run some %post command?

Re: correctly packaging dconf overrides

2024-10-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Oct 25 2024 at 10:01:02 AM +02:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: I would like to customize some keybindings because they are not set from the start. I think the best would be to use dconf overrides. dconf overrides are intended for system administrators and should never be packaged. Yo

Re: Improvements in name resolution, DNS and HTTPS RR and SVCB future usage

2024-10-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Oct 21 2024 at 02:51:56 PM +02:00:00, Lennart Poettering wrote: I know you don't like systemd-resolved, but maybe you can at least acknowledge that is does exist. The nice thing about IPC APIs is it's easy to reimplement them however you please, similar to how elogind reimplements man

Help wanted with another tricky potential F41 blocker

2024-10-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
If anybody has any grand ideas, we also don't know what's wrong in this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2316066 My best guess is that some component is looking at wall clock time when monotonic time is required, causing D-Bus calls or systemd service activation to time out.

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Oct 10 2024 at 05:36:25 PM +02:00:00, Lennart Poettering wrote: I wished Fedora would focus more on making Measured Boot by default a thing (other distros are working towards that, for example SUSE has been investing in that), but Fedora is not precisely leading in this effort right now.

Re: 0-Day: Fedora needs urgent Firefox update 131.0.2 ( current: 131.0.0 )

2024-10-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Oct 10 2024 at 11:25:30 AM +02:00:00, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: Don't Panic. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/firefox lists 131.0-2 in all branches, https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=37 lists a dozen of 131.0-2 builds as well. Sent from a $ rpm -q firefox fir

Re: strawman proposal: homed directories for users

2024-10-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Oct 7 2024 at 12:59:46 PM -04:00:00, Simo Sorce wrote: Changing a default like this is not something to do lightly IMHO. I'm interested in systemd-homed because we currently have no other plausible path towards encryption of user data by default [1] (since use of LUKS full-disk encry

Re: Request for help for packaging new potential Workstation default apps

2024-09-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Sep 17 2024 at 07:19:23 AM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Amberol[2] I've been using Amberol as my primary audio player for half a year, and I don't think it's a good choice. I would focus on Decibels. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: Build failure due to glib change

2024-09-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Sep 2 2024 at 07:56:58 AM +02:00:00, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: Michael, if you still feel this should be reported upstream, there is this bug in Debian Sid - our systems haven't filed an FTBFS bug yet: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1078386 I'd say the return ty

Re: Build failure due to glib change

2024-09-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
We should probably revert that. If you have a GNOME GitLab account, feel free to create an issue report. Otherwise, I can do so. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: buildstream: breackage on package update from 1.x to 2.x

2024-08-11 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Aug 11 2024 at 04:47:17 PM -00:00:00, Javier Jardón via devel wrote: I guess updating in f40 would require additional processes? Yeah. Just don't. :) The alternative would be to create buildstream2 as a compat package and introduce it into F40 as a new package. I don't see much point

Re: Following up on: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-07-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 31 2024 at 09:23:12 AM -07:00:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Some possible ones I'll toss out there: avahi-daemon cups rsyslog dovecot cockpit Maybe gnome-remote-desktop? -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Jul 28 2024 at 11:37:15 AM +02:00:00, Arthur Bols via devel wrote: Aside that this does not contribute to the discussion at all, I believe it is reasonable to assume that the default firewall rules are strict enough to not open all ports above 1024... That being said, it's an example, a

Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2024-07-23)

2024-07-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 24 2024 at 09:41:16 AM -04:00:00, Stephen Smoogen wrote: 1. There are some subset of people who use Fedora because they thought it was a privacy focused distribution. Their concerns did not seem to be taken into account or it needs to be made clearer that is not what the project a

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jul 8 2024 at 08:51:58 PM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Does the table store counts or separate entries? I would guess that if it just stores disaggregated values, then the values repeat often, and it's natural to store the count in the table. And then the order doesn'

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jul 8 2024 at 02:28:09 PM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: Good question! I *think* timestamps are no longer a problem. It does store precise timestamps alongside a hash of the full submission, but it doesn't actually store the full submission itself anymore, and the firs

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jul 8 2024 at 01:51:07 PM -04:00:00, Przemek Klosowski via devel wrote: At the same time, I ask the proponents to confirm that there will be no way to re-aggregate the data by any means (timestamps, Fedora account cookies, load factor on the server, etc). Good question! I *think* time

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jul 8 2024 at 11:31:20 AM -05:00:00, Michel Lind wrote: Do the metrics really need to be kept separate? I think so. Fedora Workstation is a completely different product from Fedora KDE Plasma Desktop. We surely don't want to consider other Fedora variants when making decisions that a

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Jul 8 2024 at 09:03:50 AM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: My biggest issue with this is that it's only useful for Fedora Workstation. As it is currently designed, nobody else can benefit from it. I would have preferred a design that allows all Fedora variants to be able to offer this so tha

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Jul 7 2024 at 10:49:36 PM +02:00:00, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote: Let's say "possibly" instead of "probably". Regardless, that is a very weak argument. The fact that some information might be leaked while browsing the web has absolutely no weight on whether I would like to see even *more*

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-07 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Jul 7 2024 at 03:43:15 AM +00:00:00, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: Do you have a proposed wording for the question that does not, itself, exhibit any bias? We don't have proposed wording yet. We should of course be reasonable and not write something misleading, but I think the question shoul

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-05 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, please see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Metrics#Who_will_have_access_to_metrics_data -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jul 3 2024 at 09:32:45 AM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: The apps should dlopen() it and if this library is not installed they will be able to disable all telemetry functionality. dlopen is the best option for this. It's possible, but that's annoying. There is really no

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jul 2 2024 at 07:14:46 PM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Please use a weak dependency on eos-metrics to allow its removal too. But it's a library that applications will link to, so this won't work. See my answer on Discourse: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/f42-ch

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Added links: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Metrics#Metrics_system_components One more thing: the eos-metrics-instrumentation project is going to need a lot of work. The change proposal envisions only collecting metrics that are approved by Fedora, and many of those metrics probably won

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jul 2 2024 at 11:04:25 AM -04:00:00, Stephen Smoogen wrote: I don't see where this open source code is mentioned in the proposal or the FAQ or the other notes. The wording of the documents led me to believe the code was going to be written in the future. Could that be added so people

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Well the entire metrics system is open source, so I'd encourage interested developers to study how it works. The database is just not structured to associate unrelated data points together. We are not interested in doing that. There are some things we need to fix before deployment, though. E

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jul 2 2024 at 04:05:11 PM +02:00:00, Ralf Corsépius wrote: Is this the same cheat as with Fedora's "installation ids" and Firefox's "phone home" features? This stuff is activated by default, which means at the point a user deactivates them, he already is "collected". This metrics sys

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-02 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Jul 2 2024 at 12:04:48 PM +02:00:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Because Red Hat is based in the US. It can be used against users from countries and regions that the US does not like (e.g. sanctions, export policies, etc.). Please remember the data collected will be anonymous and

Re: Understanding noopenh264 in Fedora

2024-05-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, May 26 2024 at 08:13:52 AM +00:00:00, Byoungchan Lee via devel wrote: From what I understand, even with noopenh264, Chromium and WebRTC's codebase will still need modification to use Fedora's OpenH264 or noopenh264 package. What do you think? I'm not familiar with Chromium or libwebrt

Re: Understanding noopenh264 in Fedora

2024-05-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, May 26 2024 at 06:09:06 AM +00:00:00, Mattia Verga via devel wrote: I see you have created noopenh264 just for wrapping openh264, would it worth to use ffms2 (which wraps more codecs) instead? The two things we care about are gstreamer1-plugin-openh264 and mozilla-openh264, neither of

Re: Understanding noopenh264 in Fedora

2024-05-25 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, May 25 2024 at 12:55:05 PM +00:00:00, Byoungchan Lee via devel wrote: Is my understanding correct? Yes! That said, we're considering adding the Firefox plugin as well [1] so we can finally make Firefox support OpenH264 without requiring user intervention [2]. [1] https://gitlab

Re: Fedora Elections - Voting is now open!

2024-05-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, The link to Sumantro's interview is wrong here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Council/Nominations#Candidate_Nominations -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Firefox 126.0 with DBus service

2024-05-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, May 15 2024 at 08:52:28 AM +00:00:00, Ian McInerney via devel wrote: What if I don't use GNOME search? I don't use the GNOME desktop, so I don't want to have a random Firefox process running on my machine that is doing absolutely nothing and just hogging resources. Is this process only

Re: gdk-pixbuf removing several icon loaders

2024-05-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, May 13 2024 at 08:50:04 PM +02:00:00, Fabio Valentini wrote: Just out of curiosity, would glycin be a better mechanism than gdk-pixbuf for loading "untrusted" images / "unsafe" image formats? Its loaders are sandboxed via SECCOMP and support for most image formats is implemented in Rust

gdk-pixbuf removing several icon loaders

2024-05-13 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, gdk-pixbuf 2.42.11 has dropped support for several uncommon image formats. This is causing several applications to crash in Fedora rawhide [1][2]. (The change also got backported to F40 and F39, but I've reverted it there.) Benjamin Gilbert has proposed reenabling the removed loaders [3]

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Apr 19 2024 at 11:11:33 AM -07:00:00, Kevin Fenzi wrote: There are none. This proposal was withdrawn. It may be adjusted and submitted for consideration again, but that has not yet happened. Well, yes, but I'm planning to do this soonish. -- __

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Apr 18 2024 at 05:53:14 PM +00:00:00, Igor Kerstges wrote: How much data is to be expected to be sent over my dataplan on monthly basis? When using Fedora Workstations as a graphics workstation (including regular office applications) during office hours and extensive internet research

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-03 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Apr 2 2024 at 06:18:31 PM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: I mean, we really don't need to speculate about this much. We did an entire overhaul of the project - Fedora.next - which was explicitly based around making it much more focused and less of a choose-your-own- adventure, spe

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Apr 1 2024 at 10:25:16 AM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: Oh, ISWYM. Well, I suppose yes, that does happen to be true. We could communicate that if it's done very carefully and made really clear that it's about the *time frame*, nothing to do with the repositories. It's been brough

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Apr 1 2024 at 10:12:55 AM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson wrote: This is not really correct, or at least at all relevant. The bug wasn't in F40 Beta simply because the update never made it to 'stable'. Only 'stable' packages go into *composes*. However, saying that is not really useful becau

Re: xz backdoor

2024-04-01 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Mar 31 2024 at 06:52:53 PM +00:00:00, Christopher Klooz wrote: "Fedora Linux 40 branched users (i.e. pre-Beta) likely received the potentially vulnerable 5.6.0-2.fc40 build if the system updated between March 2nd and March 6th. Fedora Linux 40 Beta users only using stable repositories

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Mar 31 2024 at 09:56:04 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: I'm really frustrated with our communication regarding this issue. Does anybody know who can fix this? The Fedora Magazine article has been fixed (thanks!). -- ___ devel ma

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Mar 31 2024 at 07:15:42 AM -04:00:00, Neal Gompa wrote: Well, an easy solution is to make it so "dnf update" is coerced to "dnf distro-sync" for development releases. Then it doesn't matter. We could make that happen for Fedora 41 with the DNF 5 transition (there's already code to make t

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sun, Mar 31 2024 at 12:55:23 PM +00:00:00, Christopher Klooz wrote: In case someone from the Fedora Magazine is in the devel mailing list and reads this: I'm really frustrated with our communication regarding this issue. Does anybody know who can fix this? If we don't know who can fix Fe

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Mar 30 2024 at 02:55:21 PM +00:00:00, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: CMake for many years fought against pkgconf and pushed people towards copying those scripts into sources. It is still very common for projects using CMake to come with a whole directory of badly written detection

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Mar 30 2024 at 09:45:06 AM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: No, that is not correct, as explained by [1] and [2]. I pasted the wrong link for [2]. I meant to paste: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/GRMSYVY6AM7OZBGQCQWIKRAF7DEMOKJM

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Mar 30 2024 at 12:26:48 PM +00:00:00, Christopher Klooz wrote: If I got Rich right, the malicious code is likely to be broken on F40, No, that is not correct, as explained by [1] and [2]. We have already asked Red Hat to investigate and fix the blog post. This is still an evolving s

Re: Three steps we could take to make supply chain attacks a bit harder

2024-03-30 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Sat, Mar 30 2024 at 09:37:44 AM +00:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: In the xz case this wouldn't have been enough, it turns out we would also have to delete m4/build-to-host.m4, which then autoreconf regenerates. I don't fully understand why that is. I agree that running autoreconf on our

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Mar 29 2024 at 04:10:53 PM -05:00:00, Michael Catanzaro wrote: OK, I am going to ask Product Security to edit their blog post to remove the incorrect information. I will CC you on that request. Or maybe I should rephrase this as a "request for clarification," because maybe

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Mar 29 2024 at 08:16:55 PM +00:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: These are the exact builds which were vulnerable. Note the tags are all empty because Kevin untagged them last night, so you'll probably need to cross-reference these with bodhi updates. OK, I am going to ask Product Secu

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Mar 29 2024 at 07:44:12 PM +01:00:00, Mikel Olasagasti wrote: Do we know if GH release tarballs are safe? The tarballs generated by GitHub that just include the contents of the git repo should be safe (at least from this particular issue), but the Fedora package is not built from tho

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Mar 29 2024 at 07:56:49 PM +00:00:00, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: secalert are already well aware and have approved the update. Kevin Fenzi, myself and others were working on it late last night :-( Sorry, I linked to the wrong article. I meant to link to [1] which says that "At this ti

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Mar 29 2024 at 06:46:59 PM +00:00:00, Christopher Klooz wrote: Yes, F40 beta is affected, along with rawhide, but not F38/F39. Unless I'm misunderstanding something, it looks xz-5.6.0-1.fc40 and 5.6.0-2.fc40 are backdoored, yes? Then rjones unknowingly broke the backdoor in two diffe

Re: Redis will no longer be OSS... now what?

2024-03-22 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Mar 22 2024 at 02:44:33 PM +01:00:00, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Once concern I have with this is the use of LGPL 3.0 *only*. This will not be compatible with a GPL 4 or newer. (The upgrade clause in the LGPLv2 that allowed that was unfortunately dropped in the LGPLv3, now you have t

Re: mock: ImportError: /lib64/libdnf.so.2: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_pointer

2024-02-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Feb 21 2024 at 05:38:00 PM +01:00:00, Jun Aruga (he / him) wrote: ImportError: /lib64/libdnf.so.2: undefined symbol: g_once_init_enter_pointer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2265336 This means dnf was built against a newer version of glib than is available at runtime. Li

Re: [heads up] update to jpegxl-0.9.2 with soname bump in rawhide

2024-02-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Feb 14 2024 at 09:38:39 PM +00:00:00, Sérgio Basto wrote: I found "cc1plus: out of memory allocating 603 bytes after a total of 86921216 bytes" Thanks. This was a big help. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To u

Re: [heads up] update to jpegxl-0.9.2 with soname bump in rawhide

2024-02-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
I checked the build log for https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=113473592 but unfortunately I don't actually see any error message. I searched for "error:" (indicating a compiler error) and I also searched for "Killed" (indicating OOM). No doubt something is wrong somewhere

Feedback requested on potential change to hosts line in nsswitch.conf

2024-02-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, If you're interested in name resolution or mDNS, please review this bug report: Default authselect profiles break `hostname --fqdn` https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2257197 We are looking for feedback on whether to move nss-myhostname, and possibly also nss-mdns4_minimal. I

Re: Figure out what killed an app (rhbz#2253099)

2024-01-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jan 31 2024 at 06:53:25 PM +01:00:00, Milan Crha wrote: Evo itself doesn't use any seccomp or such, these things can be used by the WebKitGTK. A quick grep revealed: https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/blob/main/Source/WebKit/UIProcess/Launcher/glib/ProcessLauncherGLib.cpp#L258 but that

Re: Figure out what killed an app (rhbz#2253099)

2024-01-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Jan 31 2024 at 04:42:08 PM +01:00:00, Clemens Lang wrote: Throwing some ideas out there, is it possible that evolution runs with a seccomp filter or other BPF program configured to kill the process on violation, and that’s what’s happening here? I don't think so. flatpak does use secc

Re: Figure out what killed an app (rhbz#2253099)

2024-01-31 Thread Michael Catanzaro
SIGKILL is almost always sent by systemd-oomd (or the kernel OOM killer). That's the most likely explanation. Theoretically it could also be sent by systemd if a service didn't quit quickly enough following a SIGTERM. Maybe it could also be sent by mutter if a program is unresponsive? WebKitG

Re: Vala workaround for C type errors now in rawhide

2024-01-19 Thread Michael Catanzaro
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Re: -fcf-protection dropped from i686 compiler flags

2024-01-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Unfortunately this is causing gating tests to fail for rawhide builds, e.g.: https://artifacts.dev.testing-farm.io/081ad2a3-76cd-4aa0-b95e-e870ff75a65c/ Hardened: /usr/bin/pkcon: FAIL: cf-protection test because .note.gnu.property section did not contain the necessary flags I'm not sure wh

Re: how to package dconf configuration for different language environments

2023-12-20 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Dec 20 2023 at 04:33:22 PM +01:00:00, Vojtěch Polášek wrote: Is it possible to somehow insert a different string in the dconf file depending on locale of the environment where the package is installed? So first of all, dconf overrides are for system administrators, not distro packager

Re: libcap-ng upcoming change

2023-12-18 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, Dec 18 2023 at 01:17:43 PM -05:00:00, Steve Grubb wrote: So, what should I do to remove the patch? Do I push the new release into rawhide without the patch or does this need to go through the Fedora Change Process? And if so, self-contained or system wide? Just remove it in rawhide.

Re: DNF5: Checking signatures of packages installed out of a repository?

2023-11-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, Nov 14 2023 at 08:16:39 AM -0500, Christopher wrote: I think for the sake of security, it'd be better if this were on by default, and you just had to specify the --nogpgcheck For convenience, the error message should probably say "Error: GPG check FAILED (try again with '--nogpgcheck' to

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