On 03/23/2013 06:12 PM, Jonathan Masters wrote:
> ARM deprecate endian switching in ARMv7+ application (server) profiles. It is
> possible to do big endian but with external hardware assistance. We will be
> an LP64 little endian architecture with a relaxed memory model. Ping me with
> questions
On 03/23/2013 10:14 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
> Yesterday a bunch of bugs were opened up regarding aarch64 support in
> some packages. I'd like to do my part in fixing these, but is there a
> way to actually run test builds?
As Peter says, there will be an updated F19-ish filesystem image soon.
Th
On 02/15/2013 02:32 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> Please see the following link for further details:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Talks/ARMTechTalks
>
> Today's talk is on debugging vexpress (Versatile Express) kernels
> running under qemu models with gdb.
Always was done with yaboot. Do we know if OLPC will move to UEFI?
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Peter Robinson wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: Peter Robinson
>> To: Development discussions related to Fedora
>> Cc: a...@lists.fedoraproject.org
>>
Hi everyone,
I would like to share the minutes from yesterday's Fedora ARM meeting.
In particular, those on devel@ might be interested in our desire to
discuss PA at FUDCon. At FUDCon, we will have a 24 node Calxeda
EnergyCore (highbank) server that will demonstrate various capabilities
of the (mu
Hello,
This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec
12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting with
Brendan as Paul is on PTO today. Please ping us on #fedora-arm with
additional topics on IRC also. I will be at the dentist soon, so Brendan
may start the
Hello,
This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec
12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting as Paul
is out sick today. Please ping with additional topics on IRC also.
Times in various time zones (please let us know if these do not work on
an ongoing b
On 12/09/2012 03:32 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> Having one repo and refusing commercial software are 2 different issues.
Really, they're not though. The problem is that stuff is shipped
in-distro and builds deps on core packages, and those packages are
revved in a symbiotic relationship with t
On 12/06/2012 10:38 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> People are annoyed to go to different bugzilla to report bugs, people
> are annoyed to go to different shops to shop for stuff ( as seen by the
> success of amazon, or even itunes, etc ), so why would it make sense to
> have a different way dependin
On 12/07/2012 12:30 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2012 at 10:40:13AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
>>> We could draw them between Core and Extras!
>> :) Note that just because we got rid of Core doesn't mean that it was a
>> bad idea. Ubuntu even adopted
On 12/06/2012 01:00 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-12-05 at 22:25 -0600, Michael Ekstrand wrote:
>> On 12/05/2012 03:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
>>> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
Three things:
1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations wh
On 12/05/2012 04:06 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
>> Three things:
>>
>> 1) Fedora is big enough that we have concrete situations where one size
>>doesn't fit all. Puppet being broken on F17 (and probably F18 as well)
>>is a fine example of so
On 12/05/2012 02:39 PM, Peter Robinson wrote:
> I can't make the meeting. It conflicts with the Board meeting.
>
>> Current items on the agenda:
>>
>> 1) Current Problem packages
>>
>> 2) F18 ARM VFAD - additional feedback, blockers?
>>
>> 3) Ownership of non-release blocking images (Beagleboard X
On 11/01/2012 11:08 AM, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> - I built openmpi 1.6.3 in rawhide yesterday. This had an unexpected bump in
> the libmpi_f90.so soname. I know this affects hdf5 and netcdf-fortran, both
> my packages and I'll be rebuilding them later today (hopefully).
On that, I've made a p
On 07/06/2012 02:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> pnasrat 'Paul Nasrat'
pinged
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On 05/13/2012 02:02 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> From a purely practical perspective, the popularity of OS X as a
> development platform means that we're likely to see a gradual increase
> in the amount of code written to assume LLVM-specific functionality.
> People are just going to have to
On 05/13/2012 01:21 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> Maybe we should draw more of a distinction between LLVM and clang, and
> use ExclusiveArch: on the latter to whitelist only architectures we
> feel comfortable supporting?
We could. Right now, for ARM (as an example), there is really about
On 05/11/2012 07:39 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> o jonmasters to track down the OMAP (Panda/Beagle) issue.
Right, but I'm also going to try to hunt down the futex issue and a few
other things...so we might end up going with an older kernel in the OMAP
images just for beta to get that out earlier
On 05/10/2012 04:56 AM, David Airlie wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jon Masters"
>> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>>
>> Cc: "Michel Alexandre Salim"
>> Sent: Wednesday, 9 May, 2012 10:
On 05/09/2012 05:57 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> More broadly though, I feel that GCC is well represented in terms of
> engineering knowledge but I'm *concerned* that we run the risk of
> growing a dependence on LLVM that is more critical than the LLVMpipe
> stuff. Before we can bli
On 05/06/2012 02:29 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> LLVM is becoming an increasingly integral part of our distribution
> (with mesa now using it to build the LLVMpipe renderer, for example)
> that I don't really feel comfortable maintaining it mostly by myself.
Thanks for the private email ab
Folks,
The EMEA Fedora Ambassadors have a periodic meeting at the same time
that we do. So that we don't ever have confusion, we will henceforth
move all of our meetings to #fedora-meeting-1 at the same time.
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Hi Folks,
Thanks for joining us today in our weekly meeting. Here are the minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-09/fedora-meeting.2012-05-09-20.00.html
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Hi everyone,
A reminder that this week's ARM status meeting will take place tomorrow
(Wednesday), on #fedora-meeting. There will be no phone call. Please
reply to this email with any additional agenda items you want to add.
Times in various timezones (please let us know if these do not work):
PD
Hi Folks,
Thanks for joining us today in our weekly meeting. Here are the minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-02/fedora-meeting.2012-05-02-19.59.html
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Hi everyone,
A reminder that this week's ARM status meeting will take place tomorrow
(Wednesday), on #fedora-meeting. There will be no phone call.
Times in various timezones:
PDT: 1pm
MDT: 2pm
CDT: 3pm
EDT: 4pm
UTC: 8pm
BST: 9pm
CST: 10pm
Also join #fedora-arm on Freenode for general ARM discus
On 04/24/2012 01:33 PM, Jerry James wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
>> Times in various timezones:
>>
>> PDT: 2pm
>> CDT: 3pm
>> EDT: 4pm
>> UTC: 8pm
>> BST: 9pm
>> CST: 10pm
>
> Shouldn't that be
>
&
On 04/24/2012 12:27 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> Let's have one of our "weekly" status calls tomorrow pm. I aim to send
> these reminders out more regularly so that we can get in the habit. If
> the times no longer work for those involved in the Fedora ARM project,
> please
Original Message
Subject: [fedora-arm] Weekly ARM status call - TOMORROW (Wed 2012/04/25)
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:27:23 -0400
From: Jon Masters
Organization: Red Hat, Inc.
To: a...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Hi everyone,
Let's have one of our "weekly" status ca
On 04/20/2012 04:30 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 04:22:38PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>> On 04/19/2012 05:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>> Ok, I'll modify that section. Thanks for the feedback!
>>
>> Matthew,
>>
>>
On 04/19/2012 05:36 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Ok, I'll modify that section. Thanks for the feedback!
Matthew,
Could you add comments addressing the need for documentation and website
content around a promoted arch? And any of the other comments I made in
my previous reply that you would like t
Hey guys,
Cutting this sub-thread off at the pass :)
I think it's obvious that we in the ARM project can do a better job at
engagement, cohesion, and we can learn and improve in many ways. I would
like to suggest that we steer this thread back toward the more abstract
question at hand: that of se
On 04/19/2012 01:22 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:42:58AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>> Hi Matthew,
>>
>> On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
>>
>>> Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being pa
Hi Matthew,
On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of
> the Fedora community]. Your meetings happen on the phone and aren't
minuted.
I am sorry that you feel that way. I think it is important to add some
context to th
On 03/23/2012 08:18 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> DJ Delorie wrote:
>>> always with the caveat that you can't just use "make -j 288" on them.
>>
>> Why not? Multi-CPU machines is very old technology.
>
> Ask the people who designed those machines.
>
> (My guess: memory and bus bandwidth. There's a l
On 03/26/2012 08:00 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Which leads me to a rant about ARM. G RANT!! I didn't think I'd
> ever love the BIOS, but compared to the alternatives (UEFI and a
> million different ARM bootloaders) it's simple and effective.
There is some truth to that. Nobody is going
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for your message.
On 03/22/2012 11:21 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Peter Robinson wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:28 PM, drago01 wrote:
>>> The only ones where this is possible right now are actually x86 based
>>> tablets. Even Windows 8 wont help here as MS mandates that th
On 03/22/2012 03:38 PM, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-03-22 at 12:10 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
>> I started looking at:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/HowToQemu
>>
>> VM starts okay in F16 with setsebool -P virt_use_execmem=on
>>
>> But the image is a Fedora 12 system
On 03/20/2012 06:51 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On 03/20/2012 03:33 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
>> "doing all of these things" doesn't happen magically just because the
>> board/fesco grants that ARM is suddenly a primary arch. If we made arm a
>> primary arch tomorrow, you'd still have to solve all
On 03/20/2012 01:42 PM, Dave Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:54:36PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > > The hardware is way slower ... so we can just build on faster hardware
> > > (x86_64). Which is the only sane way to do it.
> > > Trying to build on ARM
On 03/20/2012 12:56 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On 03/20/2012 09:50 AM, drago01 wrote:
>> I don't know about the details there but that does not sound like
>> unfixable to be.
>> I'd even say that fixing that is a prerequisite to allow secondary
>> archs that run on "slow" hardware to become prima
Hello,
On 03/20/2012 12:37 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>> On 03/20/2012 09:21 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>>>
>>> That said, I considera cross-building environment for secondary arch to
>>> be inevitable, which would at least help for the class of is
Hi again,
I want to thank you, and everyone else in FESCo for talking with us
yesterday, and for looking over the proposal. Bear in mind, it's a work
in progress. We intend to have broader conversations over the coming
months and F18 is an optimistic goal. Nonetheless, I feel it is
achievable (we'
On 03/20/2012 11:52 AM, Peter Jones wrote:
> In yesterday's FESCo meeting I told you I'd make a list of specific issues
> I have with the current proposal for ARM as a primary archictecture. There
> are some places where I think the current proposal fails to deal with some
> necessary aspects of b
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 21:47 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> I guess you are referring an "ordered rebuild", not a "simple sequential
> rebuild".
>
> The latter would be mostly useless.
For bootstrapping, ideally there would be ordered rebuilds, but even any
mass rebuild assists more than having
On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 11:18 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
> El Thu, 05 Jan 2012 10:37:41 -0500
> Tom Callaway escribió:
> > On 01/05/2012 09:40 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > I just didn't know if there was any "filtering" going on for the
> > > mass rebuild or if all packages, regardless of depende
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 13:31 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Thu, 22.12.11 07:17, Neal Becker (ndbeck...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > I was reading about kmod on LWN. Sounds like it might be good for a future
> > fedora, to optimize boot time
> >
> > http://www.politreco.com/2011/12/announce-km
Folks,
Anyone interested in an or1ksim package for Fedora? If so, I could throw
something together based on upstream trunk. None of the current releases
(even the RC) are able to run the orpsoc model correctly with the latest
upstream kernel, due to the assumption of support for tap network
device
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 15:37 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> I believe any MP3 file containing a tag will be affected. This is
> the "Unique Identifier Technology Solution", which appears to be
> required by a number of media distributors. Therefore, I believe (but
> have not co
Hi Bastien,
Thanks for your help with this. I'm glad a fix is in upstream now.
On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 11:12 +, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 14:36 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > Can someone please push the update that I made (with perm
Folks,
Can someone please push the update that I made (with permission) to
shared-mime-info? I'm getting "jcm does not have commit access" when I
try to make the F16 update. This fix is required to actually be able to
play many MP3 files (including all purchased from Amazon.com) on F16.
Tested Ko
On Mon, 2011-11-14 at 13:19 -0500, Chris Tyler wrote:
> The ARM Secondary Arch project[0] is working on an F15 release for the
> existing armv5tel architecture as well as the new armv7hl architecture
> (with hardfp ABI). This effort has been previously announced and is
> ongoing. A number of minor
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 12:12 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 11:14 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > > EDID does not reliably give you the size of the display.
> >
> > How about "EDID as
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 16:20 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 11:14:56AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
> > How about "EDID as it exists today". Since you're able to so beautifully
> > explain what the pitfalls are, I'd assume you've r
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 13:54 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 11:46 -0400, Kaleb S. KEITHLEY wrote:
>
> > Grovelling around in the F15 xorg-server sources and reviewing the Xorg
> > log file on my F15 box, I see, with _modern hardware_ at least, that we
> > do have the monitor g
On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 12:56 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> More to the point, your DPI numbers would be per-output anyway, so
> there's no picking a single point size preference, the same size in
> pixels would be different sizes in millimeters on each output.
In fairness, for my dual head setup
On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 19:13 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:06 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> >
> >> To participate, visit the following link:
> >>
> >> http://scotland.prox
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> To participate, visit the following link:
>
> http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
Just a quick update that we've had mock builders running around the
clock and that, at las
On Fri, 2011-08-26 at 09:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> To participate, visit the following link:
>
> http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/fedora-arm/f15hardfp/bootstrap/rootfs_stage4_20110825/
>
> Follow the instructions contained within the readme file to extract the
> "ub
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday August 26th 2011, at 14:00UTC (10:00
Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate
the continued bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
Previously, we per
On Fri, 2011-07-29 at 10:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> Well in gnome 3.2 (which should be out for F16) extensions will be
> like firefox extensions i.e you go to extensions.gnome.org and click
> "install" to install an extension.
> Distro packaged extensions are frowned upon upstream.
So, just so I
Hello,
I'm traveling this week, so didn't make any specific plans to host the
VFAD earlier today. Sorry for not announcing that. Of course, there's no
reason to not build and contribute bits by joining us on #fedora-arm at
any time, and by following the instructions:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 03:20 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Fedora15_HardFP_Bootstrap
Please note that this has been updated since last week. It now includes
all of the information you need for "stage3" (current). Further, there
is an ad
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 15th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern
Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the
bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
Last week, we succeeded in reaching
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 22:44 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> It's certainly true that we could do more to identify ftbfs situations
> earlier, but we've had mass rebuilds in most recent releases. Random
> failures years down the line really aren't a realistic concern.
I can think of specific cas
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 16:23 -0500, Matt Domsch wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 04:43:30PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 11:45:33PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> >
> > > * Fedora should (IMO) institute mandatory mass rebuilds. Either every
>
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 21:59 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> >>
> >> On 07/08/2011 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >
> >> > Or in other wo
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 16:32 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 05:46:18AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
> > I disagree. It doesn't suck. It's the way UNIX and Linux have done this
> > for dozens of years, and it's the way countless sysadmins kn
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 23:32 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
>
> On 07/08/2011 10:57 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > Or in other words: configuration via command line arguments or
> > environment variables sucks.
I disagree. It doesn't suck. It's the way UNIX and Linux have done this
for dozens of
On Sun, 2011-07-10 at 00:48 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> >
> >> We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
> >> Fedora A
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 00:52 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
> Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 8th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern
> Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the
> bootstrap o
[ removing extraneous copy of old Fedora devel list ]
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 09:57 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
> On 07/08/2011 08:23 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > I am pretty sure systemd-devel is the better place to discuss this. But
> > here are a few comments after reading throught the bug
Folks,
We are hosting another one of our regular Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual
Fedora Activity Day today Friday July 8th, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern
Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is to co-ordinate the
bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point). Going forward, the
proposal is that t
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 08:02 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 02:17 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > Join us on Friday to celebrate July with another in our series of VFADs!
> Just a heads up that you won't have many Canadians joining
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 09:14 +0200, Nikola Pajkovsky wrote:
> Refreshing news! What is pain in the ass is rhel6, because it doesn't
> have qemu-system-arm. I will play around with rhel6 and qemu-system-arm.
> Then I will try to build my packages for arm (if already aren't in). Is
> there a list of
Hi Folks,
Join us on Friday to celebrate July with another in our series of VFADs!
This is an awesome opportunity to participate in improving support for
ARM processors, and to learn about architecture bootstrap. Last week, we
successfully added a number of new packages to our bootstrap filesystem
On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 00:36 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> We are hosting another Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day
> today, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this
> session is to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating
> point). G
Hi Folks,
We are hosting another Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day
today, at 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this
session is to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating
point). Going forward, the proposal is that these be on Fridays.
You can fin
--- Begin Message ---
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 04:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at
> 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is
> to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware float
--- Begin Message ---
Hi Folks,
We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at
14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is
to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point).
You can find a lot more detail here, along with all
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 09:54 +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 2:10 AM, Chris Tyler wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 20:53 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> >> [0] We're making a "one time" incompatible ABI switch in F-15 bringup to
> >> th
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 21:10 -0400, Chris Tyler wrote:
> On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 20:53 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > [0] We're making a "one time" incompatible ABI switch in F-15 bringup to
> > the "hard float" ABI defined in section 6 of the ARM AAPCS (common
Folks,
If you're interested in getting involved in the armv7hl[0] bringup,
please do subscribe to the ARM list and follow along/join us Fri for the
first of what will hopefully be several sessions dedicated to bootstrap
of F15 hardfp bits, followed by building the universe around those.
Jon.
[0]
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 01:32 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:25 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>
> > sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the
> > commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they
> &g
On Wed, 2011-06-01 at 12:25 +0100, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> sooo... although the situation *right now* is that nobody in the
> commercial world is the slightest bit interested in LSB because they
> all do "custom builds" of complete software stacks, it could be said
> that *if* the f
On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 14:47 -0400, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > end, I gave up and used a system without NM or any of the other stuff,
>
> That's the right answer: simply turn off NetworkManager and turn on the
> "network" service, to prevent these new breakages from occurring. I do
> that for all
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 11:03 -0400, Neil Horman wrote:
> IIRC you can set:
> NM_CONTROLLED="no"
> in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethX
> Supposedly that will take ethX off the reservation and allow you to use the
> ifup
> script and ifconfig utility as you traditionally would.
I remain un
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 12:23 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Nobody stops you to disable Network-Manager, DHCP, AVAHI and the other
> noob-crap
> and write your /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 manually as i do
> everytime directly after the first boot and i guess the next 20 years
> this w
On Sat, 2011-03-26 at 12:10 +0100, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
> On 03/26/2011 12:05 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > Then it became necessary to:
> >
> > /etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
> >
> > Then it became necessary to:
> >
> > systemctl disable
Hello,
So, back in the good old days, one could just type this:
ifconfig eth0 some_temp_ip up
Then it became necessary to:
/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
Then it became necessary to:
systemctl disable NetworkManager.service
Just to try to get the interface left alone.
But when the link it'
On Sat, 2011-02-26 at 17:33 -0500, Lyos Gemini Norezel wrote:
> On 02/23/2011 04:37 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >
> > And I'd like to counter-counter-propose that we just stop using ANY kind of
> > subvolumes or volume management by default and just default to plain old
> > partitions. IMHO, LVM caus
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 07:15 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> >
> >> 2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use
> >> BTRFS's
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote:
> 2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use
> BTRFS's built in volume management, again just for the default.
In my personal opinion, this is a poor design decision. Yes, BTRFS can
do a lot of volume-y things, and th
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:27 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 08.02.11 05:18, Jon Masters (jonat...@jonmasters.org) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:04 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Tue, 08.02.11 04:44, Braden McDaniel (bra...@endoframe.c
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 11:04 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 08.02.11 04:44, Braden McDaniel (bra...@endoframe.com) wrote:
> > I'm not sure whether "1" means it is or it isn't; but
> > system-config-services claims it's enabled.
>
> s-c-s only covers sysv services. We probably should de
On Fri, 2011-02-04 at 03:09 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2011/02/04 01:26 (GMT-0500) Jon Masters composed:
>
> > On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 18:04 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
>
> >> I tried to net (minimal) install 40 hours ago and got no initrd and thus
> >> no
On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 18:04 -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
> I tried to net (minimal) install 40 hours ago and got no initrd and thus no
> boot. Culprit was less not installed. I made a working initrd via chroot and
> yum install less. Still when done, ethX cannot be found, so I have no network
> ex
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 22:30 +0530, narendr...@dell.com wrote:
> The objective is to test the new naming scheme for onboard and PCI
> add-in network interfaces as suggested by 'biosdevname' utility.
> It would be great if you could participate and provide your feedback
> which would help us flush b
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 19:54 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 04:49:37PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> > > A slowdown by a factor of 4 is a high price to pay for the impact of
> > > RemoveSUID. I'd rather pay at most 30%, and not a factor of 4.
> > That's the extreme corner cas
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 16:51 -0600, Matt Domsch wrote:
> It took my build system 96 hours to build all of rawhide (>10k
> packages) for both x86_64 and i386. Builders are 10 Dell PowerEdge
> 1955 servers, each with 2 sockets 3GHz Xeon 5160 CPUs (4 cores each),
> 8GB RAM. Builders running Fedora 1
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