Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 03/13/2013 01:32 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >> On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >>> I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the original >>> but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seem

Re: Unhelpful update descriptions

2013-03-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
What is the point of the RPM changelog then? The last time I wanted to send a bodhi update, it gave me a transient file that I filled in, and then my ssh key was rejected for some reason, and I didn't have really want to deal with remembering what I wrote last time, so I wrote "new upstream releas

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
Sure, and I'm sure the rental company wouldn't want you to pop the hood. ... wait, what were we saying about bootloaders again? On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > On 03/12/2013 05:01 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > That, plus whether the lever to open the hood is hidden or app

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
And how does the proposal here remove functionality or lower maintainability? On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM, Brian Wheeler wrote: > On 03/12/2013 02:35 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 02:31:36PM -0400, Brian Wheeler wrote: >> >>> Fedora isn't windows. Its not OSX. It sh

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-12 Thread Jasper St. Pierre
If this happens right now, what do users do? They probably take some other computer and Google and find that you have to choose the previous kernel, or edit the kernel cmdline. In the new world, they Google and find that you have to hold Control and choose the previous kernel, or edit the kernel cm