On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040...@freenet.de>wrote:
> On 03/13/2013 01:32 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote: > >> On 03/12/2013 07:24 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >>> I am saying this because I agree. To me the proposal (not the original >>> but some point in the the 500 ms boot time "ideal" ) seemed very much >>> a welded shut view. And as someone who has to worked on welded shut >>> computers for asthetic reasons.. it brings out the fighting urge in >>> me. >>> >> >> Did you guys actually read the blog post? Is aesthetics cited in any of >> the reasons for hiding the menu? No, it's not. These were the reasons I >> cited in favor of the proposal to hide the menu: >> > > - We used to suppress the boot menu by default in earlier releases and >> its suppression didn’t cause major problems. >> > Well, at least for me, re-activating has always been a part of the routine > after-install cleanup job, ever since I am using RH-based distros. > > - Not listening for keypresses doesn’t probe USB, meaning not waiting >> for keypresses will make boot even faster since we won’t have to >> load/probe USB. >> > Is this of any importance? Non-USB-equipped systems are rare to find these > days, so loading/probing USB will be inevitable in the majority of cases. > Right now, we're probing USB twice -- one in the initrd, and once when the real kernel starts up. Making the boot menu optional will remove one of those probes. - (Nobody explicitly stated this, but) Displaying information geared > towards power users by default is intimidating / confusing to > less-knowledgeable users." > I'd call this to be an urban legend. A boot menu is self-explanatory, even > to new-comers. > > It may baffle them when they see it for the first time, but will very soon > get used to it. > For me, personally, I remember it being uncomforting and scary. > Please be fair. >> > > Please do so - I feel you are trying to solve a non-issue. > > Ralf > > > > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/devel<https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel> > -- Jasper
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