Re: [EPEL10] Contributor’s fix to opendmarc ignored due to structural and infrastructure barriers

2025-06-20 Thread Björn Persson
not only another build made elsewhere. Björn Persson pgp3WR0IuRsCj.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora C

Re: Help needed: declarative macros in build system

2025-05-31 Thread Björn Persson
. Although, if the only function of those macros is to expand to nothing when the real macros are absent, then maybe another solution is to reference them in spec files with a question mark to express "if it is defined": %{?buildsystem_rebar3_build foo} Björn Persson pgpihQBWD85IF.pgp Des

Re: HEADS-UP: Modularized gnupg2 package landed in rawhide

2025-05-27 Thread Björn Persson
dency chain rpm-build → rpm-build-libs → rpm-sign-libs → /usr/bin/gpg2, which always pulls in gnupg2. Björn Persson pgpbHTRs72qff.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscrib

Re: RPM %doc directive

2025-05-25 Thread Björn Persson
PM, I expected it to work analogously to documentation files, but when I checked, files under /usr/share/licenses were *not* automatically marked as license files. Thus I put constructs like "%license %{_licensedir}/%{name}" in my spec files, and that h

Re: How do you use sidetags?

2025-05-17 Thread Björn Persson
for the usual concept of tags attached to things, but sounds weird when you think of tags as containers of packages. Björn Persson pgpVSGreiECLH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Modular GnuPG packaging (self-contained)

2025-04-27 Thread Björn Persson
lled by default, but they're not getting pulled in on updates ... > not sure why. The main package must also obsolete itself. Otherwise it doesn't work. Don't ask me to explain why. I tried to stress that point. Can you suggest better wording to get the point across? Björn Persson

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Modular GnuPG packaging (self-contained)

2025-04-19 Thread Björn Persson
th gnupg2 and gnupg2-verify. Björn Persson pgp4bmt_Iiinl.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Modular GnuPG packaging (self-contained)

2025-04-18 Thread Björn Persson
hen we would need to coordinate this change with the "Fix limitations in gpgverify" change to make changes in the right order. Björn Persson pgpQTe4OGq29u.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedor

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Modular GnuPG packaging (self-contained)

2025-04-16 Thread Björn Persson
ities. The way to achieve that used to be an arcane mystery, but as it happens, I wrote it down last year: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_one_to_many_replacement Björn Persson pgp298dZO6xct.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___

Re: BuildRequires: coreutils and %{_fixperms}

2025-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
hout cat, cp, ls, mv, rm et cetera. I have always assumed that those commands will always be present, and that I don't need to explicitly require Coreutils. Chris' argument that the usage of chmod is an implementation detail in the macro is also valid. Björn Persson pgpu1fw2

Re: F43 Change Proposal: Fix limitations in `gpgverify` (system-wide)

2025-04-03 Thread Björn Persson
Fesco decided that they preferred to have gpgverify moved from redhat-rpm-config to a separate package. I have now reworked the change proposal to describe how that will be done. Björn Persson pgpSA2tOtFFB1.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Re: Follow-up on Fedora Aide Project Bug Report

2025-02-24 Thread Björn Persson
ch file also added the reversion (and an untrue changelog entry), so there is no point in the Git history where the patch had any effect: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/aide/c/a003ad04cf2504564c0497c9cce5e5aecb9d601b The whole thing is utterly useless. Was the patch produced by a language m

Re: Inadvertent mass-rebuild triggered soname bump in libnfs

2025-01-26 Thread Björn Persson
; changes like the SPDX migration shouldn't be a special case here - > after all, the spec file changes will never end up in repositories if > they're pushed but never built. If I correct a typo in a comment, I should bump the release

Re: Proposal for vendoring/bundling golang packages by default

2025-01-20 Thread Björn Persson
that's when you want unbundled packages. Patching over 200 packages is certainly a lot of work, but patching multiple bundled copies is even more work. Thus I don't see how bundling would help with those format string bugs. Björn Persson pgpq6LUGPVETb.pgp Description:

Re: Idea proposal for next mass rebuilds

2025-01-18 Thread Björn Persson
be automated somehow; > grab the NVR before the mass rebuild, file a bugzilla ticket, > keep on pestering the maintainer until a build with higher NVR > appears. That seems to be done already. See the periodic "List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired"

forwarding aliases (was: Non-responsive maintainer sham1)

2025-01-15 Thread Björn Persson
ids forwarding and the recipient enforces DMARC, because DMARC imposes requirements on the From field of the email header. That, I believe, is when this mailing list rewrites the From field, and the forwarding alias server would have to do the same. You can tell which posters have strict DMARC r

Re: GCC 15 for Fedora 42 in a side-tag

2025-01-14 Thread Björn Persson
Björn Persson wrote: > There seems to be a regression on S390x: > > gprconfig --batch -o /dev/null --validate > raised SYSTEM.OBJECT_READER.FORMAT_ERROR : > System.Object_Reader.ELF64_Ops.Initialize: unrecognized architecture > Load address: 0x2aa1b38 This fresh commit

Re: GCC 15 for Fedora 42 in a side-tag

2025-01-13 Thread Björn Persson
Björn Persson wrote: > Jakub Jelinek wrote: > > And, if there are packages which need to be > > rebuilt against GCC 15 before the mass rebuild (like packages using Ada), > > feel free to build them into the side-tag. > > I'll start on the Ada packages. That did

Re: GCC 15 for Fedora 42 in a side-tag

2025-01-13 Thread Björn Persson
Jakub Jelinek wrote: > And, if there are packages which need to be > rebuilt against GCC 15 before the mass rebuild (like packages using Ada), > feel free to build them into the side-tag. I'll start on the Ada packages. Some of them may have to wait until tomorrow.

Re: F42 Change Proposal: RPM Support For Systemd Sysusers.d (system-wide)

2025-01-02 Thread Björn Persson
ne. If user accounts and groups will now be deleted automatically, is anything done to purge their privileges to prevent that scenario? Björn Persson pgpalLqoHvbSO.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists

Re: Moving away from the term "karma" in Bodhi

2024-11-14 Thread Björn Persson
be the "result" of those clicks, not part of the question. A user interface shall make it clear to the user that if they click on this widget it will increase/decrease that number. This is achieved by using the same word in the question as in the label beside the sum. Users shall not ne

Re: Fedora 42: The Answer to Life, The Universe and Everything

2024-11-04 Thread Björn Persson
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > We would need to get legal clearance to use "Adams" I presume. We could choose something less likely to cause legal trouble, such as "Deep Thought", "Life, The Universe and Everything", "The Answer", "Arthur Dent&quo

Re: F42 Change Proposal: dropping Of cert.pem file (System-Wide)

2024-11-03 Thread Björn Persson
later. They will feel deceived when their in-house software breaks right away. Björn Persson pgpm670uT9BXv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an e

Re: FYI Koji 1.35 changed how side tag newRepo works

2024-11-03 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 06:42:28PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > In the case of --wait-repo it would make sense to request and await a > > refresh after the build, to guarantee that when the koji command exits > > successfully the repo includes the newly

Re: FYI Koji 1.35 changed how side tag newRepo works

2024-10-28 Thread Björn Persson
uest" is or why I would want to create one. "Request refreshing the repo" would have been clearer. Björn Persson pgpdRlx6Wrb5N.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraprojec

Re: Packaging Guidelines: "Source File Verification" docs incomplete?

2024-08-25 Thread Björn Persson
ckager happens to know the author's phone number and recognize their voice. But with most other ways a fingerprint can be communicated, one can just as easily send the whole key, and then the keyserver wasn't needed after all. Björn Persson pgpcluYSh8wQs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital sign

Re: Packaging Guidelines: "Source File Verification" docs incomplete?

2024-08-25 Thread Björn Persson
. It's better to be able to verify the key, but TOFU can at least build trust over time if the key is stable. What you absolutely *MUST NOT* do is repeat the above process for every release and replace the keyring. That way you'd just overwrite the real key with the attacker's key

Re: libatasmart broken by kernel 6.10

2024-08-13 Thread Björn Persson
arm -y /dev/sda /dev/sda: issuing standby command # hdparm -C /dev/sda /dev/sda: drive state is: standby Björn Persson pgpdp27U627fr.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

Re: FedoraWorkstation default firewall rules unsafe

2024-07-28 Thread Björn Persson
Arthur Bols via devel wrote: > I often run dev servers that I assume > are secure due to the default firewall settings This practice of blindly assuming that somebody else is protecting you from your own negligence is a common source of security breaches. Björn Persson pgpyeh70G06

Re: [Java related] packaging Italian ID card middleware

2024-07-23 Thread Björn Persson
r-neutral, and they believe that means they must buy incompatible proprietary services from all the vendors, instead of defining a standard that any vendor can implement. Everyone who isn't required to be vendor-neutral accepts only BankID and contributes to strengthening the Apple/Go

Re: Fedora Mass Rebuild 41 has completed

2024-07-22 Thread Björn Persson
d, but when I looked in the Koji web interface those builds were shown as completed. Apparently notifications aren't always sent, or some get lost somewhere along the way. Notifications are much less useful if they are unreliable. Björn Persson pgp0zMauooRsy.

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Opt-In Metrics for Fedora Workstation (system-wide)

2024-07-08 Thread Björn Persson
other metrics from the same system. All the metrics are now linked to Workstation, and the hypothetical separate set of metrics are linked to Plasma. Björn Persson pgpTRBq4iHMbe.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- d

Re: Guidance on individual packages requiring x86_64-v2 baseline ?

2024-06-20 Thread Björn Persson
it easiest to switch to Debian or some other distribution. There are probably rather few people with a great need to run Fedora and nothing else on their not-quite-high-end computers. Björn Persson pgpyDGKLdpeKv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___

Re: [SPDX] Mass license change GPLv3+ to GPL-3.0-or-later

2024-06-17 Thread Björn Persson
to review. It will get done eventually. You'd just make it necessary to rebase a bunch of commits yet again. Björn Persson pgp5OKpAU7ui7.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsub

Re: Guidance on individual packages requiring x86_64-v2 baseline ?

2024-06-13 Thread Björn Persson
Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Björn Persson said: > > If this will affect containers, then I'm starting to worry that I might > > be affected. I thought I'd be fine as the computers I run virtual > > machines on are x86-64-v2 and -v3, but another computer t

Re: Guidance on individual packages requiring x86_64-v2 baseline ?

2024-06-13 Thread Björn Persson
containers are, who knows when some program I use will switch to being distributed only as a container, and thus become unusable on the -v1 box? Björn Persson pgpoJZtkUGgib.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: F41 Change Proposal: Make OpenSSL distrust SHA-1 signatures by default (system-wide)

2024-06-08 Thread Björn Persson
ot be trusted any more than an unsigned domain. To be able to distinguish between cases 2 and 3, the resolver must remain able to verify SHA-1 signatures. Björn Persson pgpX_oba2_qyt.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing l

Re: FAS login not possible

2024-06-05 Thread Björn Persson
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11962#comment-914072 In one case proxy36.fedoraproject.org is mentioned. Björn Persson pgphiMSbqa5OV.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To un

Re: FAS login not possible

2024-05-27 Thread Björn Persson
in recent weeks. I got Gateway Timeout a few minutes ago when logging in to src.fedoraproject.org. I tried again and then it worked. Other times I've gotten errors when logging in, but when I tried again I was logged in without submitting the login form a second time. Björn Persson pgp

Re: Mass Package Change: Turn deprecated %patchN syntax into %patch -PN

2024-05-13 Thread Björn Persson
nges appear in the package. I think removing that ability would be an improvement, but that's how it currently is. Any changes made by %check outside of %{buildroot} should not affect the binary package though. Björn Persson pgp_7oqqyGrq5.pgp Description: OpenP

Re: mdadm Update in Rawhide

2024-05-09 Thread Björn Persson
package does that: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/nginx/blob/8b7ceb13dd13cd18b9603872b2b5611be2d60029/f/nginx.spec#_253 This pull request would improve gpgverify to accept multiple key files, so you wouldn't need to concatenate them: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/p

Re: "fedpkg local" builds fail for rust packages

2024-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
e so problematic. I'll just state my strong opinion that packages that aren't meant for software development should not have "-devel" in their names. Björn Persson pgp42QTPCqdJp.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mail

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Fedora Plasma Workstation (System-Wide)

2024-04-06 Thread Björn Persson
those Gnome 3 programs that refuse to obey the theme. (And Firefox which just has to be different, but that has nothing to do with desktops or widget libraries as far as I can see.) Björn Persson pgp3XcsfmYYXs.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Björn Persson
blindly trust the Git repository or the Github-generated tarballs. Björn Persson pgp8nUs2fpGPZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: xz backdoor

2024-03-29 Thread Björn Persson
their secret OpenPGP key, their Github account, and probably all of their other credentials. Björn Persson pgpcAJciGABWI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Non-responsive maintainer landgraf for package aunit.

2024-03-28 Thread Björn Persson
Pavel Zhukov wrote: > I see you have received review of the MR . Emails have been answered by > Bjorn too. If you don't have time to maintain Aunit, then please give me or Dennis access to the package so we can take care of it. Björn Persson pgpFCmfiDkSCT.pgp Description: Open

Re: do we need CONFIG_UPROBES=y in our kernels?

2024-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
he protection, rendering the enclaves useless. The solution is to consider security before you rent other people's computers, and keep secrets and sensitive data on your own hardware. Björn Persson pgpojY8pw6hQR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___

Re: just to let you know FESCo agreed to a preliminary injunction while we consider this issue

2024-02-03 Thread Björn Persson
better user experience than X. For *their* usecases, not only for yours. Björn Persson pgpK3GbmW35Af.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists

Re: Mass rebuild: git push --no-verify

2024-01-18 Thread Björn Persson
ght have been reverted manually in the meantime. The mass-revert script would need to verify that it reverts only commits done by the defective mass-rebuild script. If that's nontrivial to get right, then it seems to me that there is value in a hook that validates changes made by a script. Björn

Re: side-tag with GCC 14.0.1 snapshot for Fedora 40

2024-01-16 Thread Björn Persson
build (such as packages depending on Ada which like every year bumped > sonames of its shared libraries), please do so soon. Thanks for the side-tag. Most of the Ada packages – those that I have access to – are now rebuilt if I did everything right. The rebuild went smoothly this time. Björn P

Re: Intention to tighten RPM crypto-policy back

2023-09-26 Thread Björn Persson
ject malware into Fedora through your packages. It is your duty to take security seriously as long as you have commit privileges to any Fedora packages. Björn Persson pgpF1As1bgQjX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: Adding Passim as a Fedora 40 feature?

2023-08-31 Thread Björn Persson
t deal reasonably with any and all attacks. Björn Persson pgpwa7vJgc1mo.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Potential (security) issue for beginners/non-experts when release is End Of Life: Fedora doesn’t consider the behavior of beginners/non-experts sufficiently

2023-08-13 Thread Björn Persson
longer receive security updates? Notifying the user only if they're a member of the wheel group seems like a reasonable default. Björn Persson pgpfQSwgSW2hh.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.f

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Enable fwupd-refresh.timer by default on IoT, CoreOS & Server Editions (Self-Contained)

2023-07-26 Thread Björn Persson
would probably have been less than four years before I found out about those vulnerabilities. If the firmware files are properly authenticated, then I think notifications about firmware updates should be enabled on all installations. Björn Persson pgpR2_bpFfGGv.pgp Description: OpenPGP digita

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2023-07-18 Thread Björn Persson
Bob Mauchin wrote: > I'm currently assessing what is needed by our binaries packages and will > take packages needed that have been orphaned. Thank you! I was getting really worried that Restic would drop out and I'd have to design a new backup solution yet again

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
Looking at the screenshot, I wonder what percentage of users will read "Privacy", see that all the switches are on, and click "Next" in the belief that all the privacy features are on. Björn Persson pgp2ZQzLUmMNa.pgp Description: Open

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
inking, and you intend to call that "consent". It's a popular tactic to make people "agree" to things without knowing it. Björn Persson pgpRT0A1SqC4E.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- d

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-07 Thread Björn Persson
3. :) I need some way to distinguish between the Gnome that once was and the very different thing that took over the name "Gnome". Björn Persson pgpdVGkitXcGu.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.

Re: F40 Change: Privacy-preserving Telemetry for Fedora Workstation (System-Wide)

2023-07-06 Thread Björn Persson
n is wrong, then the change proposal needs to be amended. Björn Persson pgpgswP8SfU23.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org F

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-07-01 Thread Björn Persson
t; in the beginning. I think all prompts should begin with that to clear any attributes that may have been left behind by a broken program. (Try "echo -e '\e[8m'" and see if it hides your prompt.) Björn Persson pgp_JLupc3tON.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur _

Re: How to deal with sysusers files inside the package

2023-06-30 Thread Björn Persson
about integrating sysusers support into RPM. That should allow an upstream sysusers file to work in all cases, if I understand correctly. If your package currently works, then I suggest waiting until the RPM integration is done before you change how user accounts are created

Re: Are we ready for ipv6-mostly networks?

2023-06-01 Thread Björn Persson
– and you're using IPv6 and NAT64, then you and your peer will both be unable to connect to each other. If globally routable IPv4 addresses are available on the network where you are, then you'll want one so that your peer can at least connect to you. Users of peer-to-peer programs will want

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
mpt is configured in a completely different place than the background, and separately on each server, the prompt must be readable by default on both light and dark backgrounds. Björn Persson pgprqT_maxZDz.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
the shell unusable minimal. Björn Persson pgpqIGrB30kK8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: more distinct default bash prompt?

2023-05-26 Thread Björn Persson
re though, because GCC outputs filenames in uncolored bold text, so even a bold prompt would blend in among the compilation errors. Björn Persson pgpo0PYGOraT4.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: C-specific compiler parameters (was: Update on Changes/PortingToModernC)

2023-05-10 Thread Björn Persson
Jakub Jelinek wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:09:10AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > > I am going to explore a way to land -Werror=implicit-int > > > -Werror=implicit-function-declaration among the default compiler flags. > > > T

C-specific compiler parameters (was: Update on Changes/PortingToModernC)

2023-05-09 Thread Björn Persson
ecurity' is not valid for Ada” over and over. It doesn't break any builds but it's annoying noise in the build logs. It would be better if __global_compiler_flags would contain only language-independent parameters, and language-specific parameters were added in build_cflags and

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-05-04 Thread Björn Persson
Aurelien Bompard wrote: > do you mind opening a ticket on FMN's tracker please? Done: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fmn/issues/901 Björn Persson pgpwJ54yOnOQ8.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-05-01 Thread Björn Persson
to Seamonkey to keep the Web calm when the ability to stop GIF animations was removed from Firefox. That's still relevant in places, but these days the greatest advantage of Seamonkey is that I don't have to relearn how to do things each time Firefox's user interface gets reshuff

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Björn Persson
I have to figure out and remember when I have to start the browser for demanding Javascript programs and when I can use the browser with the stable and sensible user interface. Björn Persson pgpIB3pZw10sf.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur __

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-26 Thread Björn Persson
used to run it, then? Björn Persson pgpmhakqztAuR.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of C

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > We could probibly come up with some > > > better way to start new topics/discussions > > > > Yes I think I can come up with a better way.

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
e Discourse developers like, as long as it's at most 64 bytes and adheres to the dot-atom-text syntax in RFC 5322. Björn Persson pgpWVzBgAke8P.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
continuation line begins with whitespace, which it looks like it does. Folding is even recommended for lines longer than 78 characters. Programs that parse email are supposed to unfold folded lines. The complexities of text-based protocols provide for so much fun! Björn Persson

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
a domain name. But if those new topics can't be sent to a mailing-list-equivalent, but just end up in some sort of "other" bucket, then it seems useless anyway. Björn Persson pgpcbyFcDPtSX.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-23 Thread Björn Persson
ourse is not usable as a list server. Those who want to replace Mailman with Discourse should work on improving its email capabilities until it can be used as a list server. Björn Persson pgpUVt9_aKC4f.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ deve

Re: Auto-assign packager sponsors to tickets?

2023-04-04 Thread Björn Persson
art with a single package. I had three myself, but they depended on each other so one specific package had to go first. A beginner with multiple independent packages, such that they can be reviewed and imported in arbitrary order, is probably an uncomm

Re: RFC: No koji builds during mass branching and updates-testing enablement

2023-03-09 Thread Björn Persson
What will packagers see? Will builds be queued, and get processed when the lock is released? Will build attempts be rejected with a clear explanation? "You can't build while we're branching. Please try again later." Or will packagers start asking why they get an incomp

Re: fedpkg: Failed to get repository name from Git url or pushurl -> %build

2023-03-08 Thread Björn Persson
lank line has no special meaning. A section continues until the next section begins. Björn Persson pgpmzB0onHLYx.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le..

Re: Proposal: drop delta rpms (for real this time)

2023-02-23 Thread Björn Persson
ible to set a security flag on the update after the fact, but nobody will bother with that. I would therefore advise against using --security. If one can't install all the updates continuously, then one should use a more stable distribution than Fedora. Björn Persson pgp_GPr1Z148d.pgp Descr

Re: Update on SPDX license id adoption in Fedora

2023-02-23 Thread Björn Persson
We have been implementing labels in the Fedora License Data repo to help > indicate what is needed next. Nothing notifies me about changes to labels, so they don't work as reminders that there's more work to do, but they have some value as confirmation that the next step in the procedure is w

Re: HyperKitty broken References and In-Reply-To headers

2023-02-22 Thread Björn Persson
when Artur uses Hyperkitty to reply to Kenneth, Hyperkitty seems to think the line break is part of the message ID, which results in that invalid syntax. That's just one example of how difficult it is to write a correct email parser. It's even a rather simple case compared to

Re: F38 proposal: IPP-USB as a weak dependency of CUPS and sane-airscan (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
Zdenek Dohnal wrote: > On 1/16/23 12:31, Björn Persson wrote: > > Robert Marcano via devel wrote: > >> The admin can implement CUPS > >> authentication but an ipp://localhost:6 open port entirely open to > >> anyone on the local machine to submi

Re: Feedback wanted for a proposed improvement to RPM's ELF dependency generator

2023-02-19 Thread Björn Persson
has found the filename it gets the version number from, it would be easy to run rpm --query --provides --file | grep --quiet ^$ except that people keep saying that package builds shouldn't invoke RPM for some reason. Is there a way to do the above without actually invoking RPM? Björn Persson

Re: Feedback wanted for a proposed improvement to RPM's ELF dependency generator

2023-02-18 Thread Björn Persson
d any that hadn't. If they fail to do that correctly, will their package become uninstallable due to unsatisfiable dependencies, or will it just get normal unversioned dependencies on those libraries that don't provide a version number? That should also be explained in the chan

Re: Feedback wanted for a proposed improvement to RPM's ELF dependency generator

2023-02-18 Thread Björn Persson
eve the ideal of reproducible builds? Yes I can find some of the answers elsewhere. I shouldn't need to go searching for answers. They should be available in the change proposal. Björn Persson pgpsKLzLivnaq.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Spec file encoding (was: fedpkg: Failed to get repository name from Git url or pushurl)

2023-02-16 Thread Björn Persson
ing to cooperate with the rest of us in the Fedora project, then you'll need to handle UTF-8 in spec files. Sooner or later you'll encounter some non-ASCII characters. You may need to tell Emacs to read and write spec files as UTF-8, or you may need to fix your locale. Run &

Re: Bootstrapping package with circular dependencies in koji

2023-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
alls it "Set tag extra option". I would not have guessed that an "extra option" would transform into an RPM macro, nor that a "_with_" prefix would need to be added. Björn Persson pgpCIAUkIr_UN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur _

Re: FYI... yubioath-desktop is slated to be removed from F38 repository

2023-01-19 Thread Björn Persson
-desktop-yubikey-manager-qt-will-no-longer-be-available-in-fedora-repository/45921/6 And that's such a fancy modern Javascript program that it can't even be scrolled in a browser with a stable user interface. Wonderful. Björn Persson pgpjS66OatxDZ.pgp

Re: SPECfiles - conditionals with EOLed Fedora releases - any value in keeping them ?

2023-01-19 Thread Björn Persson
ntenance. It's not like something will break if the conditional isn't removed in time. Björn Persson pgpCf1F7Tm7T3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscri

Re: GCC 13 broke 50 packages requiring libgnat-12.so() and libgnarl-12.so()

2023-01-17 Thread Björn Persson
not set them aside and then tag them all in at the end. So as things stand, these rebuilds need to be done by a human who knows the dependency graph. Björn Persson pgp90fUD1Km8D.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel

Re: GCC 13 broke 50 packages requiring libgnat-12.so() and libgnarl-12.so()

2023-01-17 Thread Björn Persson
ndency order, and that's not how the mass rebuild does it. I'd be willing to cooperate to do the rebuild in a side tag, but I can't promise to always be available at a moment's notice. Björn Persson pgpUnwuNn9UUD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur __

Re: F38 proposal: IPP-USB as a weak dependency of CUPS and sane-airscan (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-01-16 Thread Björn Persson
ring the attitude to security I've seen from CUPS before, I won't be surprised if they just assume that someone else will protect them from DNS rebinding attacks. Björn Persson pgpUOI2iQT6TU.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Re: F38 proposal: Shorter Shutdown Timer (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-28 Thread Björn Persson
le, is there some competition to produce the most textless user interface? Björn Persson pgpAmFa7dbrFg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-27 Thread Björn Persson
ork reliably. I see no big eye-catching warning that such-and-such must be smaller than x bytes. Björn Persson pgpHBtrq05hJe.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: F38 proposal: X Server Prohibits Byte-swapped Clients (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-22 Thread Björn Persson
d at least said "byte-swapped" it would probably have gotten me searching in the right direction, but if the X server wants to be helpful it should say "big/little-endian mismatch; the option AllowSwappedClients is off". Björn Persson pgptXffOuQJrN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digit

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
. Probably never, because I have way too much to do already. Apparently there is no such tool and no plan to provide one, because surely that would have been mentioned under "User Experience". Björn Persson pgpMf3pOAD4my.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-21 Thread Björn Persson
Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > > > Switching the whole distro over to unified kernels quickly is not > > > realistic though. Too many features are depending on the current > > > workflow with a host-specific in

Re: F38 proposal: Unified Kernel Support Phase 1 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-12-20 Thread Björn Persson
Move away from using the kernel command line for configuration. I note that taking away the kernel command line is indeed a clearly stated goal, which will limit Fedora to simple, appliance-like uses. If any of what I wrote above misrepresents the change owner's intentions, then the change p

Re: Question about git signed tags

2022-11-29 Thread Björn Persson
an making the message slightly larger. I can't believe that Git wouldn't be 8-bit-clean. Björn Persson pgpo03OQ_8sm5.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signatur ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

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