not only another build made elsewhere.
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Although, if the only function of those macros is to expand to nothing
when the real macros are absent, then maybe another solution is to
reference them in spec files with a question mark to express "if it is
defined":
%{?buildsystem_rebar3_build foo}
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dency
chain rpm-build → rpm-build-libs → rpm-sign-libs → /usr/bin/gpg2, which
always pulls in gnupg2.
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PM, I expected it to
work analogously to documentation files, but when I checked, files
under /usr/share/licenses were *not* automatically marked as license
files. Thus I put constructs like "%license %{_licensedir}/%{name}" in
my spec files, and that h
for the usual concept of tags attached to things, but sounds
weird when you think of tags as containers of packages.
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lled by default, but they're not getting pulled in on updates ...
> not sure why.
The main package must also obsolete itself. Otherwise it doesn't work.
Don't ask me to explain why.
I tried to stress that point. Can you suggest better wording to get the
point across?
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th gnupg2
and gnupg2-verify.
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hen we would need to coordinate this change with
the "Fix limitations in gpgverify" change to make changes in the right
order.
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ities. The way to achieve that used to be an arcane mystery, but as
it happens, I wrote it down last year:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#_one_to_many_replacement
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et cetera. I have always assumed that those commands will always be
present, and that I don't need to explicitly require Coreutils.
Chris' argument that the usage of chmod is an implementation detail in
the macro is also valid.
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Fesco decided that they preferred to have gpgverify moved from
redhat-rpm-config to a separate package. I have now reworked the change
proposal to describe how that will be done.
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ch file also added the reversion (and
an untrue changelog entry), so there is no point in the Git history
where the patch had any effect:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/aide/c/a003ad04cf2504564c0497c9cce5e5aecb9d601b
The whole thing is utterly useless. Was the patch produced by a
language m
; changes like the SPDX migration shouldn't be a special case here -
> after all, the spec file changes will never end up in repositories if
> they're pushed but never built.
If I correct a typo in a comment, I should bump the release
that's when you want unbundled packages. Patching over 200
packages is certainly a lot of work, but patching multiple bundled
copies is even more work.
Thus I don't see how bundling would help with those format string bugs.
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be automated somehow;
> grab the NVR before the mass rebuild, file a bugzilla ticket,
> keep on pestering the maintainer until a build with higher NVR
> appears.
That seems to be done already. See the periodic "List of long term FTBFS
packages to be retired"
ids
forwarding and the recipient enforces DMARC, because DMARC imposes
requirements on the From field of the email header. That, I believe, is
when this mailing list rewrites the From field, and the forwarding
alias server would have to do the same. You can tell which posters have
strict DMARC r
Björn Persson wrote:
> There seems to be a regression on S390x:
>
> gprconfig --batch -o /dev/null --validate
> raised SYSTEM.OBJECT_READER.FORMAT_ERROR :
> System.Object_Reader.ELF64_Ops.Initialize: unrecognized architecture
> Load address: 0x2aa1b38
This fresh commit
Björn Persson wrote:
> Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > And, if there are packages which need to be
> > rebuilt against GCC 15 before the mass rebuild (like packages using Ada),
> > feel free to build them into the side-tag.
>
> I'll start on the Ada packages.
That did
Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> And, if there are packages which need to be
> rebuilt against GCC 15 before the mass rebuild (like packages using Ada),
> feel free to build them into the side-tag.
I'll start on the Ada packages. Some of them may have to wait until
tomorrow.
ne.
If user accounts and groups will now be deleted automatically, is
anything done to purge their privileges to prevent that scenario?
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be the "result" of those clicks, not part of the question.
A user interface shall make it clear to the user that if they click on
this widget it will increase/decrease that number. This is achieved by
using the same word in the question as in the label beside the sum.
Users shall not ne
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> We would need to get legal clearance to use "Adams" I presume.
We could choose something less likely to cause legal trouble, such as
"Deep Thought", "Life, The Universe and Everything", "The Answer",
"Arthur Dent&quo
later. They will feel deceived when their in-house software breaks
right away.
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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2024 at 06:42:28PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> > In the case of --wait-repo it would make sense to request and await a
> > refresh after the build, to guarantee that when the koji command exits
> > successfully the repo includes the newly
uest" is or why I would want to
create one. "Request refreshing the repo" would have been clearer.
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ckager happens to know the author's phone number and
recognize their voice. But with most other ways a fingerprint can be
communicated, one can just as easily send the whole key, and then the
keyserver wasn't needed after all.
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. It's better to be able to verify the
key, but TOFU can at least build trust over time if the key is stable.
What you absolutely *MUST NOT* do is repeat the above process for every
release and replace the keyring. That way you'd just overwrite the real
key with the attacker's key
arm -y /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
issuing standby command
# hdparm -C /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
drive state is: standby
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Arthur Bols via devel wrote:
> I often run dev servers that I assume
> are secure due to the default firewall settings
This practice of blindly assuming that somebody else is protecting you
from your own negligence is a common source of security breaches.
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r-neutral,
and they believe that means they must buy incompatible proprietary
services from all the vendors, instead of defining a standard that any
vendor can implement. Everyone who isn't required to be vendor-neutral
accepts only BankID and contributes to strengthening the Apple/Go
d, but when I
looked in the Koji web interface those builds were shown as completed.
Apparently notifications aren't always sent, or some get lost somewhere
along the way. Notifications are much less useful if they are
unreliable.
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other metrics from the same system. All the metrics are now linked to
Workstation, and the hypothetical separate set of metrics are linked to
Plasma.
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it easiest to switch to Debian or some
other distribution. There are probably rather few people with a great
need to run Fedora and nothing else on their not-quite-high-end
computers.
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review. It will get done eventually. You'd just make it necessary to
rebase a bunch of commits yet again.
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Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Björn Persson said:
> > If this will affect containers, then I'm starting to worry that I might
> > be affected. I thought I'd be fine as the computers I run virtual
> > machines on are x86-64-v2 and -v3, but another computer t
containers are, who knows when some
program I use will switch to being distributed only as a container, and
thus become unusable on the -v1 box?
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be trusted any more than an unsigned domain.
To be able to distinguish between cases 2 and 3, the resolver must
remain able to verify SHA-1 signatures.
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https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/11962#comment-914072
In one case proxy36.fedoraproject.org is mentioned.
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recent weeks. I got Gateway Timeout a few minutes ago when logging in to
src.fedoraproject.org. I tried again and then it worked. Other times
I've gotten errors when logging in, but when I tried again I was logged
in without submitting the login form a second time.
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nges appear in the package. I think removing that ability
would be an improvement, but that's how it currently is.
Any changes made by %check outside of %{buildroot} should not affect the
binary package though.
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package does that:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/nginx/blob/8b7ceb13dd13cd18b9603872b2b5611be2d60029/f/nginx.spec#_253
This pull request would improve gpgverify to accept multiple key files,
so you wouldn't need to concatenate them:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/redhat-rpm-config/p
e so
problematic. I'll just state my strong opinion that packages that
aren't meant for software development should not have "-devel" in their
names.
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those Gnome 3 programs that refuse to obey the theme.
(And Firefox which just has to be different, but that has nothing to do
with desktops or widget libraries as far as I can see.)
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the Git repository or the Github-generated tarballs.
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their secret
OpenPGP key, their Github account, and probably all of their other
credentials.
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Pavel Zhukov wrote:
> I see you have received review of the MR . Emails have been answered by
> Bjorn too.
If you don't have time to maintain Aunit, then please give me or Dennis
access to the package so we can take care of it.
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he protection,
rendering the enclaves useless.
The solution is to consider security before you rent other people's
computers, and keep secrets and sensitive data on your own hardware.
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X. For *their* usecases, not only for yours.
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ght have been reverted
manually in the meantime. The mass-revert script would need to verify
that it reverts only commits done by the defective mass-rebuild script.
If that's nontrivial to get right, then it seems to me that there is
value in a hook that validates changes made by a script.
Björn
build (such as packages depending on Ada which like every year bumped
> sonames of its shared libraries), please do so soon.
Thanks for the side-tag. Most of the Ada packages – those that I have
access to – are now rebuilt if I did everything right. The rebuild went
smoothly this time.
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ject malware into Fedora through your
packages. It is your duty to take security seriously as long as you
have commit privileges to any Fedora packages.
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t deal
reasonably with any and all attacks.
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longer receive security updates?
Notifying the user only if they're a member of the wheel group seems
like a reasonable default.
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would probably
have been less than four years before I found out about those
vulnerabilities.
If the firmware files are properly authenticated, then I think
notifications about firmware updates should be enabled on all
installations.
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Bob Mauchin wrote:
> I'm currently assessing what is needed by our binaries packages and will
> take packages needed that have been orphaned.
Thank you! I was getting really worried that Restic would drop out and
I'd have to design a new backup solution yet again
Looking at the screenshot, I wonder what percentage of users will read
"Privacy", see that all the switches are on, and click "Next" in the
belief that all the privacy features are on.
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inking, and you intend to call that "consent". It's a popular tactic
to make people "agree" to things without knowing it.
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3. :)
I need some way to distinguish between the Gnome that once was and the
very different thing that took over the name "Gnome".
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t; in the beginning. I think all prompts should begin
with that to clear any attributes that may have been left behind by a
broken program. (Try "echo -e '\e[8m'" and see if it hides your prompt.)
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about integrating sysusers support
into RPM. That should allow an upstream sysusers file to work in all
cases, if I understand correctly. If your package currently works, then
I suggest waiting until the RPM integration is done before you change
how user accounts are created
– and you're using IPv6 and NAT64, then you and
your peer will both be unable to connect to each other. If globally
routable IPv4 addresses are available on the network where you are,
then you'll want one so that your peer can at least connect to you.
Users of peer-to-peer programs will want
mpt is configured in a completely different place
than the background, and separately on each server, the prompt must be
readable by default on both light and dark backgrounds.
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unusable minimal.
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re though, because GCC outputs filenames in uncolored bold text,
so even a bold prompt would blend in among the compilation errors.
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Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> On Wed, May 10, 2023 at 12:09:10AM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Florian Weimer wrote:
> > > I am going to explore a way to land -Werror=implicit-int
> > > -Werror=implicit-function-declaration among the default compiler flags.
> > > T
ecurity' is not valid for Ada”
over and over. It doesn't break any builds but it's annoying noise in
the build logs.
It would be better if __global_compiler_flags would contain only
language-independent parameters, and language-specific parameters were
added in build_cflags and
Aurelien Bompard wrote:
> do you mind opening a ticket on FMN's tracker please?
Done: https://github.com/fedora-infra/fmn/issues/901
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to Seamonkey to keep the Web calm when
the ability to stop GIF animations was removed from Firefox. That's
still relevant in places, but these days the greatest advantage of
Seamonkey is that I don't have to relearn how to do things each time
Firefox's user interface gets reshuff
I have to
figure out and remember when I have to start the browser for demanding
Javascript programs and when I can use the browser with the stable and
sensible user interface.
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used to run it, then?
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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 11:21:58PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > We could probibly come up with some
> > > better way to start new topics/discussions
> >
> > Yes I think I can come up with a better way.
e Discourse developers like,
as long as it's at most 64 bytes and adheres to the dot-atom-text syntax
in RFC 5322.
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continuation line begins
with whitespace, which it looks like it does. Folding is even
recommended for lines longer than 78 characters. Programs that parse
email are supposed to unfold folded lines.
The complexities of text-based protocols provide for so much fun!
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a domain name.
But if those new topics can't be sent to a mailing-list-equivalent, but
just end up in some sort of "other" bucket, then it seems useless
anyway.
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usable as a list server. Those who want to replace Mailman with
Discourse should work on improving its email capabilities until it can
be used as a list server.
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art with a single package. I had
three myself, but they depended on each other so one specific package
had to go first. A beginner with multiple independent packages, such
that they can be reviewed and imported in arbitrary order, is probably
an uncomm
What will packagers see?
Will builds be queued, and get processed when the lock is released?
Will build attempts be rejected with a clear explanation? "You can't
build while we're branching. Please try again later."
Or will packagers start asking why they get an incomp
lank line has no special meaning. A section continues until the next
section begins.
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ible to set a security
flag on the update after the fact, but nobody will bother with that.
I would therefore advise against using --security. If one can't install
all the updates continuously, then one should use a more stable
distribution than Fedora.
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Descr
We have been implementing labels in the Fedora License Data repo to help
> indicate what is needed next.
Nothing notifies me about changes to labels, so they don't work as
reminders that there's more work to do, but they have some value as
confirmation that the next step in the procedure is w
when Artur uses Hyperkitty to reply to Kenneth, Hyperkitty
seems to think the line break is part of the message ID, which results
in that invalid syntax.
That's just one example of how difficult it is to write a correct email
parser. It's even a rather simple case compared to
Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> On 1/16/23 12:31, Björn Persson wrote:
> > Robert Marcano via devel wrote:
> >> The admin can implement CUPS
> >> authentication but an ipp://localhost:6 open port entirely open to
> >> anyone on the local machine to submi
has found the filename it gets the
version number from, it would be easy to run
rpm --query --provides --file | grep --quiet ^$
except that people keep saying that package builds shouldn't invoke RPM
for some reason. Is there a way to do the above without actually
invoking RPM?
Björn Persson
d any that hadn't.
If they fail to do that correctly, will their package become
uninstallable due to unsatisfiable dependencies, or will it just get
normal unversioned dependencies on those libraries that don't provide a
version number?
That should also be explained in the chan
eve the ideal of reproducible
builds?
Yes I can find some of the answers elsewhere. I shouldn't need to go
searching for answers. They should be available in the change proposal.
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ing to cooperate with the rest of us in the Fedora project,
then you'll need to handle UTF-8 in spec files. Sooner or later you'll
encounter some non-ASCII characters. You may need to tell Emacs to read
and write spec files as UTF-8, or you may need to fix your locale. Run
&
alls it "Set tag extra option". I would not
have guessed that an "extra option" would transform into an RPM macro,
nor that a "_with_" prefix would need to be added.
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-desktop-yubikey-manager-qt-will-no-longer-be-available-in-fedora-repository/45921/6
And that's such a fancy modern Javascript program that it can't even be
scrolled in a browser with a stable user interface. Wonderful.
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ntenance. It's not like
something will break if the conditional isn't removed in time.
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not set them aside and then tag them all in at the
end.
So as things stand, these rebuilds need to be done by a human who knows
the dependency graph.
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ndency order, and
that's not how the mass rebuild does it.
I'd be willing to cooperate to do the rebuild in a side tag, but I
can't promise to always be available at a moment's notice.
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ring the attitude to security I've seen from CUPS before, I
won't be surprised if they just assume that someone else will protect
them from DNS rebinding attacks.
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le,
is there some competition to produce the most textless user interface?
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ork reliably. I see no big eye-catching warning that such-and-such
must be smaller than x bytes.
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d at least
said "byte-swapped" it would probably have gotten me searching in the
right direction, but if the X server wants to be helpful it should say
"big/little-endian mismatch; the option AllowSwappedClients is off".
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Probably never, because I have way too much to do already.
Apparently there is no such tool and no plan to provide one, because
surely that would have been mentioned under "User Experience".
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Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:42:14PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> > > Switching the whole distro over to unified kernels quickly is not
> > > realistic though. Too many features are depending on the current
> > > workflow with a host-specific in
Move away from using the kernel command line for configuration.
I note that taking away the kernel command line is indeed a clearly
stated goal, which will limit Fedora to simple, appliance-like uses.
If any of what I wrote above misrepresents the change owner's
intentions, then the change p
an making the message slightly larger. I
can't believe that Git wouldn't be 8-bit-clean.
Björn Persson
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