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Hi all,
I'm working on updating glycin (the next-gen image loading framework
used by GNOME) from version 1.2.2 to 2.0-alpha.6 in rawhide - other
releases part of the GNOME 49.alpha (loupe, snapshot) already require
this version (and a new gdk-pixbuf backend does too).
With the update from v1 to v
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On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 9:27 AM Tom Hughes via devel
wrote:
> The problem is that isn't a few big netblocks from big AI companies, as
> they are relatively easy to deal with
And many (not all) of the big companies
actually respect the various directives as
to where to (not) crawl, and to throttle
On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 4:27 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> If you're not going to use something like Cloudflare or Anubis
> sometimes you do *have* to do this just to keep the site up - we have
> blocked the entirety of Brazil from Fedora infra a couple of times so
> far (since, as Jelle noted, for
On Fri, 2025-07-04 at 12:48 +0200, Marius Schwarz wrote:
> Am 04.07.25 um 12:00 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann:
> > > Basically these AI scrapers do not care about any restrictions like
> > > robots.txt or whatever. They try access all pages and do so with
> > > ridiculous
> > > frequency.
> > I'd name tha
On 04. 07. 25 13:50, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 04. 07. 25 v 13:16 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
On 04. 07. 25 13:13, Vít Ondruch wrote:
What my email was about are points 7 and 8 of the policy.
This might be some Google deduplication, but I can't say I would receive
remainder as per: "and weekly re
On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 10:34 PM Mikolaj Izdebski
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 3, 2025 at 4:59 PM Dimitris Soumis wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > While working on improving compatibility of the tomcat package with
> third-party Java runtimes [1] (i.e. Eclipse Adoptium [2]), I ran into a
> persiste
Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/NodejsNodeModulesPath
Discussion thread -
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pr
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On Thu, 2025-07-03 at 09:02 -0700, Kevin Fenzi via infrastructure
wrote:
> koji and it's assorted applications should be back on line.
>
> Lookaside uploads, ssh git actions should now be working.
>
> The entire pipeline from upload, commit, build, update, signing has been
> tested and is working
Hi,
Jul 4, 2025 05:38:06 Milan Crha :
Where do I report any such thing, please
It sounds like an infra issue, so
https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
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Dne 04. 07. 25 v 13:16 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
On 04. 07. 25 13:13, Vít Ondruch wrote:
What my email was about are points 7 and 8 of the policy.
This might be some Google deduplication, but I can't say I would
receive remainder as per: "and weekly reminders are sent to affected
maintainers
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Leigh Scott wrote:
> > Why isn't fedora infra using Anubis to block LLM scrappers?
> > Why should they? Anubis is a scourge that wastes massive energy for all
> legitimate browsers, breaks search engines, and if configured in a
> particularly aggressive way as on the GNOME G
On 04. 07. 25 13:13, Vít Ondruch wrote:
What my email was about are points 7 and 8 of the policy.
This might be some Google deduplication, but I can't say I would receive
remainder as per: "and weekly reminders are sent to affected maintainers",
while if the BZ was update instead, I would no
Dne 04. 07. 25 v 12:23 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
On 04. 07. 25 11:27, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 03. 07. 25 v 21:03 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
rubygem-abrt vondruch
I wonder why I see rubygem-abrt listed here, but the relevant ticket,
such as [1] is not updated.
Upda
Am 04.07.25 um 12:00 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann:
Basically these AI scrapers do not care about any restrictions like
robots.txt or whatever. They try access all pages and do so with ridiculous
frequency.
I'd name that DoS.
"Do not talk with terrorists" .. block theire entire networks. It's what
we
Hi,
I wanted to reference a message I know is in the mailing list, but to
get its link I needed to open the web interface and search for it. To
my surprise, the search like:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/search?q=mcrha&page=1&mlist=devel%40lists.fedoraproject.org&sort=date-desc
On 04. 07. 25 11:27, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 03. 07. 25 v 21:03 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
rubygem-abrt vondruch
I wonder why I see rubygem-abrt listed here, but the relevant ticket, such as
[1] is not updated.
Updated how?
My email is orthogonal to bugzilla.
Se
On Fri, Jul 04, 2025 at 10:40:22AM +0200, Felix Schwarz wrote:
>
> Am 04.07.25 um 10:19 schrieb Michael J Gruber:
> > I was wondering what other websites do. I mean, Fedora's are certainly
> > not the only ones being AI-scraped, and I hadn't heard of that being an
> > issue before. So there have t
Dne 03. 07. 25 v 21:03 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
rubygem-abrt vondruch
I wonder why I see rubygem-abrt listed here, but the relevant ticket,
such as [1] is not updated.
Vít
[1]: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2341297
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On 04/07/2025 11:04, David Bold wrote:
Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
This has been a problem for most of 2025 with few solutions in sight:
https://lwn.net/Articles/1008897/
Emmanuel
From the article, it seems like it should be possible to identify the IPs
after the attack.
If several sites analyze
On 04/07/2025 10:04, David Bold wrote:
Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
This has been a problem for most of 2025 with few solutions in sight:
https://lwn.net/Articles/1008897/
Emmanuel
From the article, it seems like it should be possible to identify the IPs
after the attack.
It will be a huge list
On 04/07/2025 10:19, Michael J Gruber wrote:
Jelle van der Waa venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-04 10:04:42:
Hi,
On 03/07/2025 22:18, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
Leigh Scott wrote:
Why isn't fedora infra using Anubis to block LLM scrappers?
Why should they? Anubis is a scourge that wastes ma
Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> This has been a problem for most of 2025 with few solutions in sight:
> https://lwn.net/Articles/1008897/
> Emmanuel
From the article, it seems like it should be possible to identify the IPs after
the attack.
If several sites analyze their traffic and share the list, it s
* Michael J Gruber [04/07/2025 10:19] :
>
> I was wondering what other websites do. I mean, Fedora's are certainly
> not the only ones being AI-scraped, and I hadn't heard of that being an
> issue before. So there have to be practical solutions.
This has been a problem for most of 2025 with few so
Am 04.07.25 um 10:19 schrieb Michael J Gruber:
I was wondering what other websites do. I mean, Fedora's are certainly
not the only ones being AI-scraped, and I hadn't heard of that being an
issue before. So there have to be practical solutions.
This is a massive issue for all websites which se
Jelle van der Waa venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-04 10:04:42:
> Hi,
>
> On 03/07/2025 22:18, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Leigh Scott wrote:
> >> Why isn't fedora infra using Anubis to block LLM scrappers?
> >
> > Why should they? Anubis is a scourge that wastes massive energy for all
> > legit
Hi,
On 03/07/2025 22:18, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
Leigh Scott wrote:
Why isn't fedora infra using Anubis to block LLM scrappers?
Why should they? Anubis is a scourge that wastes massive energy for all
legitimate browsers, breaks search engines, and if configured in a
particularly aggress
Hello,
Perl 5.42 was released on July 3 2025 and Perl 5.42 change was approved
by FESCo [1].
I have required `f43-perl' build-root for this purpose [2] and it was
created.
Because of the Datacenter move, I'd prefer to wait and begin the rebuild
on Monday morning. You can be notified via mail ab
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