Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2024-12-18 at 02:19 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > (*) The original announcement discussed behavior. > That is basically conduct.  And either there is > a code for such behaviour (conduct) in which > case the behaviour (conduct) can be measured > against, or there is no such code, which me

Fedora eln compose report: 20241218.n.0 changes

2024-12-17 Thread Fedora ELN Report
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Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:08 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Let me be clear - FESCo is *not* usurping CoC responsibilities. From the currently available public information, I disagree(*), but I trust the Council will eventually review and clarify (as they seem to have agreed to do). Gary (*) T

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 10:03 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote: > > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In > > some cases we were dealing with situations where reporters wanted to remain > > anonymous > > This

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:17 PM Leigh Scott wrote: > > I have already withdrawn my FESCo election votes as I don't think any of the > candidates are fit to rule. > -- Until we have an independent review of what individuals knew, and when did they know it, and what actions they took (or did not t

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-17 Thread Randy Barlow via devel
On Fri, 2024-12-13 at 17:33 -0800, Josh Stone wrote: > The Fedora Proven Packager Policy[1] reads: “Provenpackagers lend a > hand > when help is needed, always with a desire to improve the quality of > Fedora. Prior to making changes, provenpackagers should try to > communicate with owners of a pac

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Tue, 2024-12-17 at 21:09 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > I have already withdrawn my FESCo election votes as I don't think any > of the candidates are fit to rule. the Committee voted – seven in favor, two against – to remove Peter from the provenpackager -- Sérgio M. B. -- _

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Intel Compute Runtime - Upgrade with HW cut-off (self-contained)

2024-12-17 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
Yes, I agree that'd be the best way forward! I, however, won't have cycles for its maintenance. On the other hand, anybody who wants and has resources is welcome to package and maintain the legacy packages and llvm 15 in the repositories. On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:29 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel <

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Leigh Scott
I have already withdrawn my FESCo election votes as I don't think any of the candidates are fit to rule. -- ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduc

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 9:20 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 7:28 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > I'm not sure today of everything we need to do to make things right, but the > > Council will work this week on immediate actions before the holiday, and > > then longer-term

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 7:28 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > I'm not sure today of everything we need to do to make things right, but the > Council will work this week on immediate actions before the holiday, and > then longer-term in January. Thank you for the update. I was especially concerned abo

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Matthew Miller
Hey everyone. I have a lot of thoughts on this, and they are hard to put in order. The first one probably is "Oh god, please don't set everything on fire right before the holidays". Close candidates, though, are: * I know everyone involved here has Fedora's best interests and heart, and works ha

Re: HEADS UP: FLTK 1.4 w/ soname bump

2024-12-17 Thread Richard Shaw
Here's the final (mostly) failed list. I was able to fix butt with a simple header include patch: $ grep failed rebuild_status butt: failed, fixed with patch dillo: failed, config specifically looks for fltk 1.3. flwkey: failed, config specifically looks for fltk 1.3. giac: failed, non-trivial fix

Re: On revoking provenpackager

2024-12-17 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 12:09 AM Florian Weimer wrote: [snip] > In some cases, if two > individuals just can't get along and it begins to harm the project, it > may become necessary to ask at least one of them to leave, at least > temporarily, and may not even be clearcut who the guilty party is

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 17. 12. 24 v 14:37 Peter Robinson napsal(a): On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 13:28, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 16. 12. 24 v 23:13 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): > Dne 16. 12. 24 v 7:03 odp. Miro Hrončok napsal(a): >> >> And based on my experience, I doubt this particular provenpackager

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-17 Thread Kalev Lember
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024, 14:37 Peter Robinson wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 13:28, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >> >> This is not recent example, but really bad example of PP's work IMHO: >> >> >> https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ruby/c/c31c7edb6913eb7417ee68c59997548df2943dde >> > > That was from

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-17 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, 17 Dec 2024 at 13:28, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 16. 12. 24 v 23:13 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): > > Dne 16. 12. 24 v 7:03 odp. Miro Hrončok napsal(a): > >> > >> And based on my experience, I doubt this particular provenpackager > >> status was stripped based on something like that. > >> > >

Re: Revocation of provenpackager access from pbrobinson

2024-12-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16. 12. 24 v 23:13 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): Dne 16. 12. 24 v 7:03 odp. Miro Hrončok napsal(a): And based on my experience, I doubt this particular provenpackager status was stripped based on something like that. Sure, I guess we all agree that the line is fuzzy and probably not very w

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 01:49:27AM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 11:03 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2024-12-16 at 15:42 -0500, David Cantrell wrote: > > > We neglected to make available the facts behind our decision quickly (In > > > some cases we were dea

Re: F42 Change Proposal: Intel Compute Runtime - Upgrade with HW cut-off (self-contained)

2024-12-17 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 16/12/2024 21:43, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: removed support for GPU Generations prior to the 12th Gen GPUs. This effectively means that any hardware released before 2020 is no longer supported for OpenCL and oneAPI workloads. If it removes such a huge list of hardware, a compat

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20241217.n.0 changes

2024-12-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20241216.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20241217.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:3 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:4 Upgraded packages: 106 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 241.07 KiB Size of dropped packages

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Peter Robinson
Hi FESCo, On behalf of FESCo, please accept our apology for how we communicated the > news regarding the revocation of provenpackager privileges for Peter > Robinson. This one was really difficult for us to figure out how best to > communicate and we have made mistakes. > > We neglected to make a

Re: Orphaning most of my packages

2024-12-17 Thread Simone Caronni
On Mon, Dec 16, 2024 at 10:46 PM Kalev Lember wrote: > I think Simone Caronni would be the best person for miniupnpc, but I can > take it as well as a last resort if needed. I left it orphaned for now. > Taken, thanks. --Simone -- You cannot discover new oceans unless you have the courage to

Re: On revoking provenpackager from probinson

2024-12-17 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On 12/17/24 1:49 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: To be clear, none of the involved parties requested anonymity. The FESCo ticket was filed privately to avoid pre-judgement on the mailing list and so that FESCo could take their time discussing the issue. The ticket just cannot be made public post-fact