Re: RPM Sequoia: A Sequoia-based backend for the RPM Package Manager

2023-04-27 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 4/27/23 20:55, Robert Relyea wrote: On 4/27/23 3:51 AM, Neal H. Walfield wrote: Hi all, A year and a half ago, I began working with Panu on using Sequoia as RPM's OpenPGP parser. I wrote up our journey from the initial analysis, to adding the code to RPM, and to getting it into Fedora 38 (y

Re: Going Inactive

2023-04-27 Thread Brad Smith
Thanks Anthony. Nothing else at this time. Contribute at any time. Brad On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 17:39 Anthony Rabbito wrote: > Thanks Brad! I have done so. If there's any other similar issues feel free > to reach out. > > Anthony > ___ > devel mailing

Re: Going Inactive

2023-04-27 Thread Anthony Rabbito
Thanks Brad! I have done so. If there's any other similar issues feel free to reach out. Anthony ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https:/

Re: RPM Sequoia: A Sequoia-based backend for the RPM Package Manager

2023-04-27 Thread Sandro
On 27-04-2023 19:55, Robert Relyea wrote: |because: SHA1 is not considered secure since 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z| I'm not sure where the date came from, but SHA1 wasn't published until 1993. 1970-01-01 looks like an epic of some kind. It's the beginning of Unix time (time of the epoch): https://e

F39 proposal: Man-pages-ru Retirement (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-04-27 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ManPagesRuRetirement This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive community feedback. This proposal will only be implemented if approved by the Fedora Engineering Steering Com

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230427.n.1 changes

2023-04-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230426.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230427.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:4 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 145 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 126.57 KiB Size of dropped packages

Re: RPM Sequoia: A Sequoia-based backend for the RPM Package Manager

2023-04-27 Thread Robert Relyea
On 4/27/23 3:51 AM, Neal H. Walfield wrote: Hi all, A year and a half ago, I began working with Panu on using Sequoia as RPM's OpenPGP parser. I wrote up our journey from the initial analysis, to adding the code to RPM, and to getting it into Fedora 38 (yay!) in a blog post. I'm mentioning it

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Forgive me for answering 3 posts in one here... On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 05:57:43AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > But what if the major influx of new contributors that you proponents of this > proposal are hoping for never arrives? (Something I think is quite likely to > happen, consi

Re: What is configuration of machines in Koji BS (python-invoke build hangs)?

2023-04-27 Thread Jiri Kucera
Thanks a lot Kevin. This time it completed successfully: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=100456381 Looks like I hit some temporary issue in previous builds. Regards Jiri On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 7:25 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 03:46:55PM +0200, Jiri Kuce

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 01:39:00PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > > > Stephen Smoogen wrote: > >> So let us say it is voted on and the answer is keep the mailing lists. > >> What are the next steps to fixing the mail system which is held together > >> by duc

Re: What is configuration of machines in Koji BS (python-invoke build hangs)?

2023-04-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 03:46:55PM +0200, Jiri Kucera wrote: > Hello all, > > where can I find the source code of the machines' configuration used by > Koji build system and scripts/tools that are used for the deployment? koji builders are currently Fedora 37 vm's/hardware. They are configured vi

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread stan via devel
On Thu, 27 Apr 2023 07:01:15 -0400 Stephen Smoogen wrote: > I am NOT a proponent of this proposal. I don't want to go to > Discourse. Web interfaces like that cause me cognitive pain and > grumpiness to use longer than a few minutes. As such I know my > involvement with Fedora will go down furthe

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Björn Persson
Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > I see only a blank page. So it has strict requirements for which > > Javascript runners can be used to run it, then? > > Yes, the UI is written in javascript (Typescript with Vue.js to be precise). > We should probably add a noscript tag to make that clearer. I won'

Re: A new FMN will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Il 24/04/23 11:47, Aurelien Bompard ha scritto: > Hi folks! > > The FMN replacement team has finished writing the new version of our > notification system, and we are ready to deploy! We plan on deploying > the new version on https://notifications.fedoraproject.org this week, > we'll keep the old o

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Jonathan Corbet
Kevin Kofler via devel writes: > Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > >> Stephen Smoogen wrote: >>> So let us say it is voted on and the answer is keep the mailing lists. >>> What are the next steps to fixing the mail system which is held together >>> by duct-tape and bailing wire? >> [etc.] >> >> Th

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Solomon Peachy via devel
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 07:01:15AM -0400, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > breaking mail altogether. My frustration and anger comes from the fact that > I spent most of the last 5 years assuming that it was somebody else's > problem and they would take care of it so I could focus on keeping other > things

What is configuration of machines in Koji BS (python-invoke build hangs)?

2023-04-27 Thread Jiri Kucera
Hello all, where can I find the source code of the machines' configuration used by Koji build system and scripts/tools that are used for the deployment? I am asking since I am trying to build a python-invoke for Fedora 38 and everytime it hangs on `pytest`[1][3]. However, it builds smoothly on my

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Ian McInerney via devel
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 3:25 AM Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On ke, 26 huhti 2023, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 9:04 AM Alexander Bokovoy > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> This morning I woke up to find that packages I maintain were orphaned > >> out of blue. Nobody contacted t

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 14:56 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > So, I've been using email and lists for... 25+ years now. Same here… > For me personally (and I think many of the other survivors you > mention) > we have carefully tuned filters and email clients and can read/reply > to > lists with ease an

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On to, 27 huhti 2023, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On ke, 26 huhti 2023, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 9:04 AM Alexander Bokovoy wrote: Hi, This morning I woke up to find that packages I maintain were orphaned out of blue. Nobody contacted the maintainers, nobody raised any tick

Re: Is texlive-was-9 retired for Fedora 38?

2023-04-27 Thread Carlos "casep" Sepulveda
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 at 18:30, Globe Trotter via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Is texlive-was-9 retired for Fedora 38? My package did not upgrade from > F37 and so I was wondering about it. > > Hi, I think the 9 is a red herring, On (docker) Fedora 37 # dnf info texlive-was Last

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Stephen Smoogen wrote: >> So let us say it is voted on and the answer is keep the mailing lists. >> What are the next steps to fixing the mail system which is held together >> by duct-tape and bailing wire? > [etc.] > > Thanks for confirming that the decision was a

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 11:05:53AM -, Michael J Gruber wrote: > Speaking of not obvious ... > > One starts with no rule at all. Does that mean no notifications? I.e., is > include or exclude the default? Yes, the default is no notifications at all. So… I understand why this default was chos

Re: RPM Sequoia: A Sequoia-based backend for the RPM Package Manager

2023-04-27 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 12:52 PM Neal H. Walfield wrote: > A year and a half ago, I began working with Panu on using Sequoia as > RPM's OpenPGP parser. I wrote up our journey from the initial > analysis, to adding the code to RPM, and to getting it into Fedora 38 > (yay!) in a blog post. I'm men

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Michael J Gruber
Speaking of not obvious ... One starts with no rule at all. Does that mean no notifications? I.e., is include or exclude the default? A few templates might not hurt. Or is that what "tracking rule" means? Should we disable all rules on the old fmn, i.e. does the old one keep sending, or is it

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 at 23:58, Kevin Kofler via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > I may be in that list of toning down, but that is OK. Look it's really > > time for new people to come in and break things. It is the only way they > > really learn if somethin

RPM Sequoia: A Sequoia-based backend for the RPM Package Manager

2023-04-27 Thread Neal H. Walfield
Hi all, A year and a half ago, I began working with Panu on using Sequoia as RPM's OpenPGP parser. I wrote up our journey from the initial analysis, to adding the code to RPM, and to getting it into Fedora 38 (yay!) in a blog post. I'm mentioning it here, as I believe it is of general interest t

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Chris Kelley
> > Right now dogtag-pki is off the hook, nothing shows that it is > 'orphan-impacted'. However, for ecj I still get that and it shows > explicit dependency on java-1.8.0-openjdk as well while ecj has > following list of dependencies: > dogtag-pki spec explicitly depends on java-17-openjdk-devel/ja

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 04. 23 12:34, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On to, 27 huhti 2023, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 27. 04. 23 12:19, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: The graph in the packager dashboard is showing that resteasy directly depends on java-1.8.0-openjdk which is not true. resteasy (maintained by: cfu, cipherboy,

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 09:50:05AM -, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > > Are only email notifications supported? > > No, it can do IRC and Matrix as well. > > > (On the new website, it says "Add destination", and in the drop down menu > > there's only my email address.) > > The available destinatio

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On to, 27 huhti 2023, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 27. 04. 23 12:19, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: The graph in the packager dashboard is showing that resteasy directly depends on java-1.8.0-openjdk which is not true. resteasy (maintained by: cfu, cipherboy, ckelley, edewata, jmagne, mfargett, mharmsen,

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 27. 04. 23 12:19, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: The graph in the packager dashboard is showing that resteasy directly depends on java-1.8.0-openjdk which is not true. resteasy (maintained by: cfu, cipherboy, ckelley, edewata, jmagne, mfargett, mharmsen, vakwetu) pki-resteasy-client-3.0.26-23.fc3

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On to, 27 huhti 2023, Stephen Smoogen wrote: On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 at 22:32, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: On ke, 26 huhti 2023, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 07:23:10PM +0100, Chris Kelley wrote: >> One thing I still don't understand is why all of our java packages are >> orphan-affect

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Aurelien Bompard
> Are only email notifications supported? No, it can do IRC and Matrix as well. > (On the new website, it says "Add destination", and in the drop down menu > there's only my email address.) The available destinations are retrieved from your user profile on Noggin (https://accounts.fedoraproject

Re: F39 proposal: mkosi-initrd (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2023-04-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 12:17:22AM +0200, Dan Čermák wrote: > Would it be possible to build bootable images using mkosi-initrd in > koji? Then these could be booted in openQA directly and catch simple > regressions like unbootable images quite easily. If I understand correctly, you are suggesting

Re: It’s time to transform the Fedora devel list into something new

2023-04-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:28:41AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 03:33:28PM -0400, Solomon Peachy via devel wrote: > > Honestly, if a "how to configure discourse to mimic the MUA-managed > > mailing list experience (ie not having to log into a web site after the > > initi

Re: The new version of Fedora Messaging Notifications will arrive this week

2023-04-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 03:04:51PM +0200, Aurelien Bompard wrote: > We plan on: > - deploying the new version on https://notifications.fedoraproject.org Hi! Are only email notifications supported? (On the new website, it says "Add destination", and in the drop down menu there's only my email addr

Re: Looking for new freecol package-maintainer

2023-04-27 Thread Vojtech Trefny
Thank you. As Hans said, I also didn't have time to update freecol to the latest upstream for some time now so I am really glad someone is willing to take over. Peter, if you want I can transfer the package fully to you and be just a comaintainer. On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 2:05 PM Hans de Goede wro

Re: Orphaning despite having maintainers?

2023-04-27 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 26 Apr 2023 at 22:32, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > On ke, 26 huhti 2023, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 07:23:10PM +0100, Chris Kelley wrote: > >> One thing I still don't understand is why all of our java packages are > >> orphan-affected by the orphaning of java-1.8.0-openjd