Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Tommy Nguyen
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:40 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:38 AM Tommy Nguyen > wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:24 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > As one of the ffmpeg maintainers, I'm actively working on > > > workarounds > > > for the problem. And I've talked to m

Re: OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2022-09-27 at 23:39 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:11 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > > Recently, I experienced that the German AusweisApp, which already > > required entering the ID card PIN on the phone [1], has stopped working > > altogether [2]. This is due t

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:38 AM Tommy Nguyen wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:24 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > > As one of the ffmpeg maintainers, I'm actively working on workarounds > > for the problem. And I've talked to my counterparts in RPM Fusion > > about the issue as well. We're all trying

OpenSSL and ECC patents (was Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1)

2022-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:11 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote: > Recently, I experienced that the German AusweisApp, which already > required entering the ID card PIN on the phone [1], has stopped working > altogether [2]. This is due to hobbled openssl Fedora ships. There is no > openssl-freeworld i

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Tommy Nguyen
On Wed, 2022-09-28 at 08:24 +0200, Neal Gompa wrote: > As one of the ffmpeg maintainers, I'm actively working on workarounds > for the problem. And I've talked to my counterparts in RPM Fusion > about the issue as well. We're all trying to figure this out. That seems to contradict this quote from

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Le mar. 27 sept. 2022 à 20:57, David Airlie a écrit : > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > since this mesa change ( > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide > > ) in F37 and rawhide, th

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 8:12 AM Julian Sikorski wrote: > > Am 27.09.22 um 20:01 schrieb Frantisek Zatloukal: > > Hi, > > > > since this mesa change ( > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide > > > >

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Julian Sikorski
Am 27.09.22 um 20:01 schrieb Frantisek Zatloukal: Hi, since this mesa change ( https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide ) in F37 and rawhi

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Tom Seewald
It's very disappointing that Fedora will now be permanently crippled for a huge amount of video content. If Red Hat is largely alone in believing that this a credible legal risk, then ultimately this change will reflect poorly on the distribution regardless of any articles written. I hope this

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Allan via devel
On Tue, 27 Sep 2022 12:31:11 -0600 "Chris Murphy" wrote: [..] > >> The obvious bike-shedding questions are: > >> Is 4G is too much or too little? If so what amount it should be? > >> Is size still the correct approach? Or should we consider a max > >> retention time? And if so, what would it be

Re: F39 proposal: Replace DNF with DNF5 (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-09-27 Thread Maxwell G via devel
On Sat Sep 24, 2022, Maxwell G wrote: > On Tue Sep 6, 2022, Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > The new DNF5 will obsolete `dnf`, `yum`, `dnf-automatic`, `yum-utils`, > > and DNF plugins (core and extras). python3-dnf and LIBDNF (`libdnf`, > > `python3-hawkey`) will be obso

status update on "ostree native containers"

2022-09-27 Thread Colin Walters
We shipped https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OstreeNativeContainer in Fedora 36 and a lot has happened since then. One of the biggest things is that rpm-ostree now knows how to intelligently generate reproducible "chunked" container images. I'll describe this by also highlighting another

Re: Sourcegraph documentation

2022-09-27 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Vít Ondruch kirjoitti 27.9.2022 klo 10.41: Dne 27. 09. 22 v 9:21 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 26. 09. 22 v 22:20 Otto Liljalaakso napsal(a): On a different level, Sourcegraph is an effective way to query the package sources. For instance, just querying for string 'rexml' reveals that the pac

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread David Airlie
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 5:53 AM Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 9/27/22 2:36 PM, David Airlie wrote: > > The implicit IANAL is very clear here. > > I wish you had started the discussion the legal list yourself prior to the > git commit. > > A certain website that monitors this mailing list is p

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 9:53 PM Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 9/27/22 2:36 PM, David Airlie wrote: > > The implicit IANAL is very clear here. > > I wish you had started the discussion the legal list yourself prior to the > git commit. > > A certain website that monitors this mailing list is p

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/27/22 2:36 PM, David Airlie wrote: The implicit IANAL is very clear here. I wish you had started the discussion the legal list yourself prior to the git commit. A certain website that monitors this mailing list is probably already preparing to post how Fedora 37 is no longer going to wo

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 05:36:01 +1000 David Airlie wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 5:34 AM Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > > > On 9/27/22 1:56 PM, David Airlie wrote: > > > The patent licensing around H264/H265 is such that providing this > > > could leave Red Hat and other Fedora distributors expo

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread David Airlie
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 5:34 AM Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > On 9/27/22 1:56 PM, David Airlie wrote: > > The patent licensing around H264/H265 is such that providing this > > could leave Red Hat and other Fedora distributors exposed to legal > > problems. > > How is Mesa violating H264/H265 pate

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread David Airlie
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 5:11 AM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, David Airlie said: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal > > wrote: > > > since this mesa change ( > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 9/27/22 1:56 PM, David Airlie wrote: The patent licensing around H264/H265 is such that providing this could leave Red Hat and other Fedora distributors exposed to legal problems. How is Mesa violating H264/H265 patents? Mesa wasn't performing any patented functionality. If simply handlin

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 8:11 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, David Airlie said: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal > > wrote: > > > since this mesa change ( > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, David Airlie said: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal > wrote: > > since this mesa change ( > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide > > ) in F37 and rawhide, the mesa package lost support for vaa

Re: Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread David Airlie
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 4:02 AM Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > Hi, > > since this mesa change ( > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide > ) in F37 and rawhide, the mesa package lost support for vaapi accelerated > encoding and decoding

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi, On September 27, 2022 6:13:48 PM UTC, Chris Murphy wrote: > > >On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Gregory Bartholomew wrote: >>> >>> What about modifying /etc/systemd/journald.conf: >>> >>> MaxFileSec=1week >>> MaxRetentionSec=5week >>> >>> This should result in at least 4 weeks of journa

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 12:13 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:12:57AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Fedora uses systemd-journald for system logging. By default it is a >> persistent log kept on /var, and uses up to 4G disk space, although >> in certain circu

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Gregory Bartholomew
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > I hadn't considered the container case at all, that containers running > systemd-journald would have their own journals and retention policy. I wonder > if the > container default should have volatile journals? Or forward the journals t

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-27)

2022-09-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-09-27/fesco.2022-09-27-17.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-09-27/fesco.2022-09-27-17.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2022-09-27/fesco.2022-09-27-17.00.log.html

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Gregory Bartholomew wrote: >> >> What about modifying /etc/systemd/journald.conf: >> >> MaxFileSec=1week >> MaxRetentionSec=5week >> >> This should result in at least 4 weeks of journal entries, i.e. it would >> delete a journal >> file once entries reach 5

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 10:12:57AM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Hi, > > Fedora uses systemd-journald for system logging. By default it is a > persistent log kept on /var, and uses up to 4G disk space, although > in certain circumstances it can go a bit higher. See 'man journald.conf' > for details

Mesa in F37- vaapi support disabled for h264/h265/vc1

2022-09-27 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
Hi, since this mesa change ( https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/mesa/c/94ef544b3f2125912dfbff4c6ef373fe49806b52?branch=rawhide ) in F37 and rawhide, the mesa package lost support for vaapi accelerated encoding and decoding of h264, h265 and decoding of vc1 ( https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cg

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Gregory Bartholomew
> > What about modifying /etc/systemd/journald.conf: > > MaxFileSec=1week > MaxRetentionSec=5week > > This should result in at least 4 weeks of journal entries, i.e. it would > delete a journal > file once entries reach 5 weeks old, but since the journal files are rotated > weekly, it > should

Fedora 37 compose report: 20220927.n.0 changes

2022-09-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20220926.n.1 NEW: Fedora-37-20220927.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 37 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 3.43 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Gregory Bartholomew wrote: > FWIW (probably not much), I have run into an issue with regard to the > default journal size being too large on Fedora Server when running a > bunch of systemd-nspawn containers each with sshd and fail2ban enabled. > When I reboot

Orphaning Falcon Re: Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-20)

2022-09-27 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
Dear all, On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 12:16:09PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on > irc.libera.chat. > > Change: pcre deprecation > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2862 > APPROVED (+3, 0

Re: limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Gregory Bartholomew
FWIW (probably not much), I have run into an issue with regard to the default journal size being too large on Fedora Server when running a bunch of systemd-nspawn containers each with sshd and fail2ban enabled. When I reboot a bunch of the containers at once (or the whole hypervisor), fail2ban r

limiting the (systemd) journal size

2022-09-27 Thread Chris Murphy
Hi, Fedora uses systemd-journald for system logging. By default it is a persistent log kept on /var, and uses up to 4G disk space, although in certain circumstances it can go a bit higher. See 'man journald.conf' for details. Example: >Sep 27 07:26:05 fovo.local systemd-journald[602]: System Jo

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20220927.n.0 changes

2022-09-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20220926.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20220927.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 7 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 110 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 3.84 MiB Size of dropped packages:0 B

Schedule for Tuesday's FESCo Meeting (2022-09-27)

2022-09-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Tuesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2022-09-27 17:00 UTC' Links to all issues to be di

ELF package notes — summary and next steps

2022-09-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi everyone, here is a short summary of the status of "ELF package notes" in Fedora, and a call for ideas what to do next. History: the original implementation that was approved for F36 used a linker script that injected a section in the ELF file with JSON text. This was causing build issues beca

Heads up: dracut upgrade 056 -> 057 in F36

2022-09-27 Thread Pavel Valena
Hello, $SUBJ does contain a lot of fixes. Please test the upgrade here if you can: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-88eae95f8a Let me know if something is wrong. _ _ _ _ # How to test 1) install the package 2) reinstall / upgrade kernel-core 3) reboot 4) in case of failur

Re: Sourcegraph documentation

2022-09-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27. 09. 22 v 9:21 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 26. 09. 22 v 22:20 Otto Liljalaakso napsal(a): Robby Callicotte via devel kirjoitti 26.9.2022 klo 21.52: I will also close https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129584 since this is already in ruby.  I simply did a search in src.fedor

Sourcegraph documentation

2022-09-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 09. 22 v 22:20 Otto Liljalaakso napsal(a): Robby Callicotte via devel kirjoitti 26.9.2022 klo 21.52: I will also close https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129584 since this is already in ruby.  I simply did a search in src.fedoraproject.org and did not see this package.  So

Re: Unretire rubygem-logging

2022-09-27 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26. 09. 22 v 20:52 Robby Callicotte via devel napsal(a): On Monday, September 26, 2022 2:41:14 AM CDT Vít Ondruch wrote: Hi Robby, Do you by a chance have repository, e.g. in Copr, of all the things you eventually want import into Fedora? Or bugzilla tracker for kitchen-salt / test-kitchen

Re: glibc 2.36 and DT_HASH (preserving it for F37+)

2022-09-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 10:09:15AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 4:13 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > > We are working on this and hope to have an update soon. > > > > > > > Well, we just released the Beta and peop