Re: Planning to start unifying native and mingw packages

2022-08-24 Thread Marián Konček
I noticed this thread, I develop a personal project where I use about 10 C libraries, I noticed that "glfw", "libsodium" and "libevent" do not have their corresponding mingw packages. I was considering trying to package them but unifying them with the native packages would be better. Of course,

Re: Adoption of flare package

2022-08-24 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Sandro kirjoitti 25.8.2022 klo 1.05: On 8/24/22 23:43, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: It looks like a commit was queuing in a pull request for a long time, then merged after other things had happened in rawhide. Probably a more correct Git date to use in %changelog would be the commit date instead of

Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-08-24 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 24. 08. 22 22:53, Alasdair G Kergon wrote: On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 09:50:59PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: I think some of those *-team / *-sig / *-maint pseudo-group users are outdated. Most of them probably pre-date the existence of actual groups, so they are probably all ancient. For exam

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Miro Hrončok
ou're going to revert the brokenness in f38 after it branches off, is ever a good idea. Please revert the change and wait for the devel list and FESCo discussion of the topic before implementing it again. Ack, will do promptly. My bad. Reverted in crypto-policies-20220824-2.git2187e9c.fc38,

Re: abipkgdiff - indirect sub-type changes

2022-08-24 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 8/24/22 04:07, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Orion Poplawski wrote: Does this break ABI? Yes. They changed functions to take 64-bit integers instead of 32-bit ones. When called by code compiled against a previous version, the upper half will be garbage. On some architectures (depending on h

Re: Adoption of flare package

2022-08-24 Thread Sandro
On 8/24/22 23:43, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: Sandro kirjoitti 24.8.2022 klo 23.50: Yes, after I talked to him he became aware of the dependency between the two packages and adopted flare as well. AFAIK, both packages have been updated to the latest upstream release now and built successfully. Th

Fedora 37 compose report: 20220824.n.2 changes

2022-08-24 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-37-20220823.n.0 NEW: Fedora-37-20220824.n.2 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:21 Upgraded packages: 17 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:1.32 MiB Size of

Re: Adoption of flare package

2022-08-24 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Sandro kirjoitti 24.8.2022 klo 23.50: Yes, after I talked to him he became aware of the dependency between the two packages and adopted flare as well. AFAIK, both packages have been updated to the latest upstream release now and built successfully. They should find their way into the differ

Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-08-24 Thread Alasdair G Kergon
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 09:50:59PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > I think some of those *-team / *-sig / *-maint pseudo-group users are > outdated. Most of them probably pre-date the existence of actual > groups, so they are probably all ancient. For example, we removed the > xgl-maint pseudo-grou

Re: Adoption of flare package

2022-08-24 Thread Sandro
On 8/24/22 21:44, Otto Liljalaakso wrote: Sandro kirjoitti 24.8.2022 klo 14.33: On 23-08-2022 16:00, Sandro wrote: I am interested in adopting the orphaned flare package[1]. It doesn't appear to have any complicated requirements. My local build on a recent git clone succeeded without effort.

Re: Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-08-24 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 7:31 PM Mattia Verga via devel wrote: > > Following my comment in > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2856#comment-812870 I wrote a simple > script to check how many users have commit rights onto some project in > src.fp.o, but aren't (anymore) members of the `packager` group:

Re: Adoption of flare package

2022-08-24 Thread Otto Liljalaakso
Sandro kirjoitti 24.8.2022 klo 14.33: On 23-08-2022 16:00, Sandro wrote: I am interested in adopting the orphaned flare package[1]. It doesn't appear to have any complicated requirements. My local build on a recent git clone succeeded without effort. Hello Sandro, Thank you for taking interes

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-08-24 at 16:58 +0200, Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > > Reverted in crypto-policies-20220824-2.git2187e9c.fc38, > sorry for the premature jump scare. openQA caught an interesting consequence of the change while it was live: it makes PackageKit start crashing. The journal sh

Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-08-24

2022-08-24 Thread Dusty Mabe
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-08-24/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-08-24-16.32.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-08-24/fedora_coreos_meeting.2022-08-24-16.32.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022

Users with commit rights in src.fp.o but no more in packager group

2022-08-24 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
Following my comment in https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2856#comment-812870 I wrote a simple script to check how many users have commit rights onto some project in src.fp.o, but aren't (anymore) members of the `packager` group: ``` Found 31 users with commit privileges but not in packager group: pac

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: Consider changing the license change announcement policy

2022-08-24 Thread Richard Fontana
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 1:00 PM Jilayne Lovejoy wrote: > > > > On 8/24/22 8:56 AM, Richard Fontana wrote: > > Cross-posting this to the devel list. > > > > On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:41 PM Maxwell G wrote: > >> Hi Legal folks, > >> > >> Can you please consider removing the following rule? > >> >

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Re: Consider changing the license change announcement policy

2022-08-24 Thread Jilayne Lovejoy
On 8/24/22 8:56 AM, Richard Fontana wrote: Cross-posting this to the devel list. On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:41 PM Maxwell G wrote: Hi Legal folks, Can you please consider removing the following rule? Fedora package maintainers are expected to announce upstream license changes that they be

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just to chime in from a releng perspective here... IMHO you should do builds for f38 now also (either by making a side tag and bootstrapping them just like was done for f37, or tagging f37 builds you need into the f38 sidetag). While it's technically possible to push the f37 builds into rawhide

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
ou're going to revert the brokenness in f38 after it branches off, is ever a good idea. Please revert the change and wait for the devel list and FESCo discussion of the topic before implementing it again. Ack, will do promptly. My bad. Reverted in crypto-policies-20220824-2.git2187e9c.fc

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
What do I do now? Just keep it as it is? > > > Revert, somehow initiate the approval early and unrevert once I have one? > > > > I don't think keeping rawhide/f38 intentionally broken, even if you're > > going to revert the brokenness in f38 aft

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] Consider changing the license change announcement policy

2022-08-24 Thread Richard Fontana
Cross-posting this to the devel list. On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 11:41 PM Maxwell G wrote: > > Hi Legal folks, > > Can you please consider removing the following rule? > > > Fedora package maintainers are expected to announce upstream license > > changes that they become aware of on the Fedora devel

Re: HEADS UP: ffmpeg 5.1 update for F37+ incoming

2022-08-24 Thread Petr Pisar
V Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 09:55:39AM -0400, Neal Gompa napsal(a): > Hey all, > > I'm updating ffmpeg to 5.1 to synchronize with third-party > repositories that use this version for F37+. Because there were some > failed builds from the F37 mass build due to bootstrap cycles, I'm > using this as an op

Re: GNOME's Icon Development Kit icons potentially causing implicit conflicts

2022-08-24 Thread Lyes Saadi
I have tried to create a package for that, including rpm-macros to easily remove conflicting installed icons. Here it is: https://lyessaadi.fedorapeople.org/icon-development-kit-2022.08.18-1.fc38.src.rpm Should I submit that for review and change conflicting packages? Or should we instead in

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:32 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:28 PM Alexander Sosedkin > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:18 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > > > Alexander, > > > > > > Would you mind to comment on your intentions with: > > > > > > https://src.fedorap

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:28 PM Alexander Sosedkin wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:18 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > Alexander, > > > > Would you mind to comment on your intentions with: > > > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/crypto-policies/c/2f33ffcfa7192037f969c6a28e092aca767a1415?bran

Re: Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Alexander Sosedkin
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 4:18 PM Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Alexander, > > Would you mind to comment on your intentions with: > > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/crypto-policies/c/2f33ffcfa7192037f969c6a28e092aca767a1415?branch=rawhide > > which just landed in Fedora and broke Ruby test suite (even

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Petr Pisar
V Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 03:00:23PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 12:39, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > > So if the rawhide rebuild can be based on the result of the F37 side tag, > > > then bootstrapping etc. is not required, and the rebuild is fast and > > > straightforward. Mor

Ruby FTBFS due to "SHA-1 jump scare"

2022-08-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Alexander, Would you mind to comment on your intentions with: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/crypto-policies/c/2f33ffcfa7192037f969c6a28e092aca767a1415?branch=rawhide which just landed in Fedora and broke Ruby test suite (even more then it was broken before): https://koschei.fedoraprojec

Re: Planning to start unifying native and mingw packages

2022-08-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 03:57:37PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 3:49 PM Daniel P. Berrangé > wrote: > > > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:13:18PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > > > Hi > > > > > > Following recent discussions and to reduce the maintenance burden, I'm > > > pla

Re: Planning to start unifying native and mingw packages

2022-08-24 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 3:49 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:13:18PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > > Hi > > > > Following recent discussions and to reduce the maintenance burden, I'm > > planning to start merging native and mingw packages. Initially, I'll be > > looking a

HEADS UP: ffmpeg 5.1 update for F37+ incoming

2022-08-24 Thread Neal Gompa
Hey all, I'm updating ffmpeg to 5.1 to synchronize with third-party repositories that use this version for F37+. Because there were some failed builds from the F37 mass build due to bootstrap cycles, I'm using this as an opportunity to clean that up too. There is also some ELN fallout to deal with

Re: Planning to start unifying native and mingw packages

2022-08-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 10:13:18PM +0100, Sandro Mani wrote: > Hi > > Following recent discussions and to reduce the maintenance burden, I'm > planning to start merging native and mingw packages. Initially, I'll be > looking at these packages where I maintain both variants: I've done the same wit

Re: libpq-devel and postgresql-private-devel providing conflicting libpq.so symlink

2022-08-24 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 24/08/2022 08:21, Stephan Bergmann wrote: Seen at least on F36 x86_64:  The package libreoffice-postgresql-7.3.4.2-4.fc36.x86_64 (built 2022-07-12) contains a library /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libpostgresql-sdbc-impllo.so that links against libpq (built with -lpq), so the library has

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 12:39, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > So if the rawhide rebuild can be based on the result of the F37 side tag, > > then bootstrapping etc. is not required, and the rebuild is fast and > > straightforward. More so if no commits are needed. > > > This optimization is also possible.

Re: Adoption of flare package

2022-08-24 Thread Sandro
On 23-08-2022 16:00, Sandro wrote: I am interested in adopting the orphaned flare package[1]. It doesn't appear to have any complicated requirements. My local build on a recent git clone succeeded without effort. I became aware of the package being orphaned by the announcement sent a couple of

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Petr Pisar
V Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:58:00AM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 10:49, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > > > for a few wee

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 24. 08. 22 12:15, Iñaki Ucar wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 12:04, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 24. 08. 22 10:58, Iñaki Ucar wrote: Thanks. The main issue is that there are circular dependencies, and it requires bootstrapping in some cases and disabling the checks in others, and then another pass

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 12:04, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 24. 08. 22 10:58, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > Thanks. The main issue is that there are circular dependencies, and it > > requires bootstrapping in some cases and disabling the checks in > > others, and then another pass to reenable everything. So

Re: abipkgdiff - indirect sub-type changes

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Orion Poplawski wrote: > Does this break ABI? Yes. They changed functions to take 64-bit integers instead of 32-bit ones. When called by code compiled against a previous version, the upper half will be garbage. On some architectures (depending on how exactly arguments are passed, but they will

Re: GNOME's Icon Development Kit icons potentially causing implicit conflicts

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Elliott Sales de Andrade wrote: > Icons are not code. Even if they are compiled into a code binary as a resource file (as seem to be often done in this case)? Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe s

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 24. 08. 22 10:58, Iñaki Ucar wrote: Thanks. The main issue is that there are circular dependencies, and it requires bootstrapping in some cases and disabling the checks in others, and then another pass to reenable everything. So if the rawhide rebuild can be based on the result of the F37 side

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Fabio Alessandro Locati
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022, at 11:56, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > That was exactly my point though. If nobody finds CVEs, then nobody has to > fix them. We can only fix what we know about, and blackhats can only attack > what they know about. The fact that there are no new CVEs (and therefore fixe

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Demi Marie Obenour
On 8/24/22 05:56, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> pcre will also have a drop in found CVEs simply because far fewer people >> will be bothering to look at the old code. If no one is looking for bugs >> then none are going to be reported :-) > > That was exactly my poin

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Lukas Javorsky wrote: > Anyway, the main idea behind this change is to prevent any new packages > coming to Fedora 38 to require the old pcre package and forward them to > use the newer version of it *pcre2*. As I have stated several times, I do not see this process as a productive or useful thin

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > pcre will also have a drop in found CVEs simply because far fewer people > will be bothering to look at the old code. If no one is looking for bugs > then none are going to be reported :-) That was exactly my point though. If nobody finds CVEs, then nobody has to fix t

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Lukas Javorsky
Thank you for all of your feedback. As Zbyszek mentioned, this change is only about the *deprecation*, not the *retirement*. This means that if the pcre is deprecated, no new package will be allowed to require it. Also, it would mean that all of the existing packages will be notified about this de

Re: GNOME's Icon Development Kit icons potentially causing implicit conflicts

2022-08-24 Thread Lyes Saadi
Le 24/08/2022 à 09:47, Vít Ondruch a écrit :> Shouldn't we have shared "Icon Library" package, which would solve the conflicts? Yes, this is what I'm also proposing, and what I think is probably the most painless solution. Additionally, since packages like gnome-control-center install icons

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Iñaki Ucar
And now with the attachments... Classic. On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 11:28, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 10:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:39 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > > > V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > > > > Hi all,

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 10:59, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:39 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > > > for a few weeks n

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:58 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 10:49, Petr Pisar wrote: > > > > V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > > > Hi all, > > > > > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > > > for a few weeks now, w

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 10:49, Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > > Hi all, > > > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > > for a few weeks now, where packages are being rebuilt as time permits. > > Unfortunately,

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:39 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > > V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > > Hi all, > > > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > > for a few weeks now, where packages are being rebuilt as time permits. > > Unfortunatel

Re: GNOME's Icon Development Kit icons potentially causing implicit conflicts

2022-08-24 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 24. 08. 22 v 2:55 Lyes Saadi napsal(a): Hello devel, I recently packaged blackbox-terminal, but, someone packaging another app, extension-manager noticed that his package conflicted with mine, and a `dnf whatprovides` later noticed that it also conflicted with cozy*. I soon discovered th

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Petr Pisar
V Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 08:16:00PM +0200, Iñaki Ucar napsal(a): > Hi all, > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > for a few weeks now, where packages are being rebuilt as time permits. > Unfortunately, F37 is not rawhide anymore, so the question is whether > this

Re: F37 side tag after branching point

2022-08-24 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 24 Aug 2022 at 04:56, Maxwell G wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 1:16:00 PM CDT Iñaki Ucar wrote: > > We have a new R version sitting on a side tag (f37-build-side-55653) > > for a few weeks now, where packages are being rebuilt as time permits. > > Can this perhaps be handled differ

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 05:14:33AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Summary == > > Upstream stopped the support for the old 'pcre' package. It only > > supports the new 'pcre2' version, so Fedora should deprecate it so it > > could later be retired and removed from Fe

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 03:42:30PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PcreDeprecation > > This document represents a proposed Change. As part of the Changes > process, proposals are publicly announced in order to receive > community feedback. This proposal will only be imple

Re: F38 proposal: Pcre Deprecation (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-08-24 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 05:14:33AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Ben Cotton wrote: > > == Summary == > > Upstream stopped the support for the old 'pcre' package. It only > > supports the new 'pcre2' version, so Fedora should deprecate it so it > > could later be retired and removed from Fe