Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 5:05 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said: > > == Benefit to Fedora == > > > > * The RPM database primarily describes the state of `/usr`. Storing > > the databases in `/usr` will more easily facilitate OS rollback, > > without affecting `/var`. > >

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 9:36 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > > If you value Fedora having a snapshot and rollback scheme of some > > kind, it's useful and beneficial. If you don't, then the change is > > neutral because it has not a single technical downside pres

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said: > If you value Fedora having a snapshot and rollback scheme of some > kind, it's useful and beneficial. If you don't, then the change is > neutral because it has not a single technical downside presented so > far - just emotive ones. It's only beneficial for

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 4:34 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 17.01.2022 um 00:09 schrieb Neal Gompa : > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:51 PM Fabio Valentini > > wrote: > >> > >> …. > > > > openSUSE originally did the move because standard openSUSE has a > > snapshot+rollback scheme and trackin

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 3:59 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 14.01.2022 um 23:51 schrieb Fabio Valentini : > > > > > > Wait, I thought this change was about making the path consistent > > within Fedora variants? > > The question still is whether this is actually useful and beneficial. If you val

Re: Self Introduction: Jun Miao(miaojun0823)

2022-01-16 Thread xinghong chen
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Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 6:47 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > > > It benefits LVM-based OS snapshotting equally well. However, the > > > tooling for LVM snapshots are under-developed, so it's not used so > > > much for this. > >

Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ben Cotton said: > == Benefit to Fedora == > > * The RPM database primarily describes the state of `/usr`. Storing > the databases in `/usr` will more easily facilitate OS rollback, > without affecting `/var`. Rolling back to the start... this statement is only marginally true.

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 6:47 PM Chris Adams wrote: > > Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > > It benefits LVM-based OS snapshotting equally well. However, the > > tooling for LVM snapshots are under-developed, so it's not used so > > much for this. > > How? Since the standard install uses a sing

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Neal Gompa said: > It benefits LVM-based OS snapshotting equally well. However, the > tooling for LVM snapshots are under-developed, so it's not used so > much for this. How? Since the standard install uses a single root filesystem that includes /usr and /var, I can't see any b

Re: hiredis soname bump

2022-01-16 Thread Nathan Scott
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:35 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 00:21, Nathan Scott wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:05 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > > Greetings. > > > > > > We currently have hiredis-0.13.3-16 in rawhide, I'd like to upgrade to > > > 1.0.2, which includes a so

Re: hiredis soname bump

2022-01-16 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 00:21, Nathan Scott wrote: > > Hi Kevin, > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:05 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > Greetings. > > > > We currently have hiredis-0.13.3-16 in rawhide, I'd like to upgrade to > > 1.0.2, which includes a soname bump. > > I think upstream may have reverted

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 17.01.2022 um 00:09 schrieb Neal Gompa : > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:51 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: >> >> …. > > openSUSE originally did the move because standard openSUSE has a > snapshot+rollback scheme and tracking the rpmdb is straightforward in > /usr with all the other system state

Re: hiredis soname bump

2022-01-16 Thread Nathan Scott
Hi Kevin, On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:05 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Greetings. > > We currently have hiredis-0.13.3-16 in rawhide, I'd like to upgrade to > 1.0.2, which includes a soname bump. I think upstream may have reverted this change FWIW ... https://github.com/redis/hiredis/issues/990 cheer

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 5:59 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 14.01.2022 um 23:51 schrieb Fabio Valentini : > > > > > > Wait, I thought this change was about making the path consistent > > within Fedora variants? > > The question still is whether this is actually useful and beneficial. > > All the

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 5:51 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:16 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > > The path "/usr/lib/sysimage/rpm" does look very out-of-place in > > > non-image-based systems, so *if*

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 14.01.2022 um 23:51 schrieb Fabio Valentini : > > > Wait, I thought this change was about making the path consistent > within Fedora variants? The question still is whether this is actually useful and beneficial. All the arguments for this move that I have read so far explain benefits r

Re: wlroots 0.15 update is coming to rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Lyes Saadi
Thank you for your hard work :)! Thanks to the wlroots0.14 compat package, nothing broke :D! cage's master branch is already on 0.15, so, hopefully, there will be a release using it soon :)! Le 16/01/2022 à 23:20, Aleksei Bavshin a écrit : On 1/11/22 21:29, Aleksei Bavshin wrote: Greetings,

Re: New top-level dir: /state [WAS: Re: F36 Change: Relocate RPM database to /usr (System-Wide Change] proposal)

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 3:51 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:16 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, at 6:05 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > > The path "/usr/lib/sysimage/rpm" does look very out-of-place in > > > non-image-based systems, so *if*

Re: Self Introduction: Garry Williams

2022-01-16 Thread Sebastian Crane
Dear Garry, Welcome to Fedora! The Bridge Hand Generator looks really interesting. I've been meaning to learn Bridge; now I'll be able to have computer-assistance for at least the dealing aspect! Best wishes, Sebastian ___ devel mailing list -- devel@l

Re: wlroots 0.15 update is coming to rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Aleksei Bavshin
On 1/11/22 21:29, Aleksei Bavshin wrote: Greetings, By the end of this week I'm planning to update wlroots in rawhide to 0.15 (libwlroots.so.10) and sway to the latest release candidate. No breakages are expected as wlroots0.14 compatibility package will be introduced in the same side-tag.

koji hubs and builders updated

2022-01-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Just thought I would share that (finally) we have completed upgrades on the koji hubs and builders. The hubs have been upgraded to Fedora 35 and the latest koji version (1.17.1). Builder hypervisors have been upgraded to RHEL8.5 and the latest advanced virt stack. Builders have been upgraded/reim

hiredis soname bump

2022-01-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. We currently have hiredis-0.13.3-16 in rawhide, I'd like to upgrade to 1.0.2, which includes a soname bump. I plan to make a side tag and build dependent packages the next few days. I've rebuilt everything in a copr: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/kevin/hiredis/builds/ The

Re: gcc-12.0.0-0.4.fc36 in rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 04:07:08PM +0100, Dan Horák wrote: > > Another important thing I wanted to say is that we'd like to switch > > ppc64le from the numerically problematic IBM extended long double to > > IEEE 754 quad long double. This is an ABI change. Some libraries > > are already built so

Re: gcc-12.0.0-0.4.fc36 in rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Kaleb Keithley
Ceph fails with gcc-12 too. scratch build at https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=81280838 upstream ceph bug at https://tracker.ceph.com/issues/53896 -- Kaleb ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: gcc-12.0.0-0.4.fc36 in rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I tried recompiling qemu and it fails with an odd error in the RCU torture test. Bug submitted upstream here: https://gitlab.com/qemu-project/qemu/-/issues/823 ... but since GCC 12 is the only big thing that has changed since we just rebuilt qemu, could that be a reason? https://gitlab.com/qem

Request for help with sponsor: retry

2022-01-16 Thread Graham Leggett via devel
Hi all, I’ve had a review of the retry tool at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017119, but I need help with a sponsor. Happy to try review some other packages in return, but will need a bit of hand holding. Regards, Graham — ___ devel m

Re: Workflow and other problems with the Fedora container infrastructure

2022-01-16 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jan 13, 2022, at 1:48 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > Perhaps the Fedora CoreOS folks would have some thoughts? I can't speak for the whole team, but a few points. First, the FCOS build tooling in https://github.com/coreos/coreos-assembler is designed to run as a standard container. In

Re: [Discussion] Future of the CLI APP packaging

2022-01-16 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi, Jiri Konecny writes: > Dne 07. 01. 22 v 21:54 Major Hayden napsal(a): >> On 1/7/22 14:46, Jiri Konecny wrote: >>> I would like to do here a bit of brainstorming and ask if there is an >>> existing solution to this problem. To explain my problem, >>> recently I found more and more apps likes

Re: Workflow and other problems with the Fedora container infrastructure

2022-01-16 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 8:43 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 6:57 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:14:19PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: >> > >> > One of the things that has recently happened in the Koji space is the >> > addition of a kiwi-build task to build

Re: Clean EVR upgrade between releases no more required?

2022-01-16 Thread Dan Čermák
Hi Mattia, Mattia Verga via devel writes: > In this [1] rpmautospec bug it is claimed that a clean EVR upgrade > between Fedora releases is no more required. Afaik this should be correct, as dnf system-upgrade uses distro-sync nowadays and will perform the upgrade correctly even if that implies

Re: Workflow and other problems with the Fedora container infrastructure

2022-01-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 6:57 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 02:14:19PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > One of the things that has recently happened in the Koji space is the > > addition of a kiwi-build task to build images using the KIWI tool[1]. > > > > KIWI supports building all

Clean EVR upgrade between releases no more required?

2022-01-16 Thread Mattia Verga via devel
In this [1] rpmautospec bug it is claimed that a clean EVR upgrade between Fedora releases is no more required. However Packaging Guidelines [2] [3] implies that is actually still required. What's the current status? Can a package have a higher NVR in a stable release than in Rawhide? Mattia [1

Re: gcc-12.0.0-0.4.fc36 in rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 15/01/2022 19:40, Ben Beasley wrote: To clarify, this is affecting the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/json package and (since it is a header-only library) some or all of the many packages that use it. nheko package: /builddir/build/BUILD/nheko-0.9.1/src/Cache.cpp:4530:34: error: ambig

Fedora-Cloud-34-20220116.0 compose check report

2022-01-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20220115.0): ID: 1105564 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: gcc-12.0.0-0.4.fc36 in rawhide

2022-01-16 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 01:50:19PM -0700, Martin Sebor wrote: > Having said that, checking and handling possible truncation before > calling snprintf() is doing double the work. I would suggest to get > rid of the check and instead handle the truncation after it happens. > This is both simpler and

Fedora-Cloud-35-20220116.0 compose check report

2022-01-16 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-35-20220115.0): ID: 1105548 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op