On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 10:41 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 10:28 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> > Stephen John Smoogen writes:
> >
> > > Mainly because it is the authentication service equivalent of
> > > telnet**. Very simple to set up, very simple to use, and very
> > > easy
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 4/204 (x86_64), 2/141 (aarch64)
New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-35-20211028.n.0):
ID: 1044974 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1044974
ID: 1045055 Test: x86_64 KDE
OLD: Fedora-35-20211028.n.0
NEW: Fedora-35-20211028.n.1
= SUMMARY =
Added images:1
Dropped images: 0
Added packages: 1
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 7
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 37.11 KiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of
On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 21:14 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 8:02 PM Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 16:42 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> > > Hello team,
> > >
> > > I would like to let you know ImageMagick-6.9.12-26 recently landed
> > > upstream.
Missing expected images:
Xfce raw-xz armhfp
Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
1 of 43 required tests failed
openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING**
below
Failed openQA tests: 7/141 (aarch64), 5/206 (x86_64)
New failures (same test not failed in Fe
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 8:02 PM Sérgio Basto wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 16:42 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> > Hello team,
> >
> > I would like to let you know ImageMagick-6.9.12-26 recently landed
> > upstream.
>
> Hello , when you update from 6.9.11 to 6.9.12, we need rebuild all
> de
On Tue, 2021-10-26 at 16:42 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
> Hello team,
>
> I would like to let you know ImageMagick-6.9.12-26 recently landed
> upstream.
Hello , when you update from 6.9.11 to 6.9.12, we need rebuild all
depended packages because we got one soname bump and packages won't
wi
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20211027.n.0
NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20211028.n.1
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 0
Added packages: 6
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 173
Downgraded packages: 1
Size of added packages: 3.57 MiB
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Today I learned that some people are quite surprised (and not in a happy
way) that Fedora Cloud base is no longer considered an Edition.
Please see discussion here, both on the history and the potential futures:
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-cloud-edition-not-an-edition-and-the-f
> On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 2:40 PM Luca Boccassi
> It is not enough. It's not enough in *any* distribution, because
> people can (re)build and deploy the same NEVRA. You *need* a build-id
> to guarantee uniqueness of the binary. If the NVR is the same but the
> build has been modified, the build-i
On Do, 28.10.21 15:10, Neal Gompa (ngomp...@gmail.com) wrote:
> It is not enough. It's not enough in *any* distribution, because
> people can (re)build and deploy the same NEVRA. You *need* a
> build-id to guarantee uniqueness of the binary. If the NVR is the
> same but the build has been modified
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 12:10:15PM -0400, David Cantrell wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 07:26:47PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> >>https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Package_information_on_ELF_objects
> >>
> >>== Sum
On Do, 28.10.21 12:10, David Cantrell (dcantr...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Thanks for revising the change proposal and filling in more details.
> After reading through it, I have some questions:
>
> 1) The proposal notes that users tend to combine built packages from
> different distributions. Even in
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 2:40 PM Luca Boccassi wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 07:26:47PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for revising the change proposal and filling in more details.
> > After reading through it, I have some questions:
> >
> > 1) The proposal notes th
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 05:44:44PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 28/10/2021 15:53, Chris Adams wrote:
> > New 500G SSDs are available under $50, and 1TB under $90.
>
> QLC is not an option. Too slow outside of the SLC cache.
Stop moving the goalposts, okay?
--
Tomasz Torcz
> On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 07:26:47PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> Thanks for revising the change proposal and filling in more details.
> After reading through it, I have some questions:
>
> 1) The proposal notes that users tend to combine built packages from
> different distribut
The Fedora 35 Final RC1.2 compose [1] is GO and will be shipped live
on Tuesday, 2 November 2021.
For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs [3].
Thank you to everyone who has worked on this release. Be sure to join
us November 12–13 for the F35 Release Party[4]
[
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 07:26:47PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 03:09:00PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Package_information_on_ELF_objects
== Summary ==
All binaries (executables and shared libraries) are annotated with an
No missing expected images.
Failed openQA tests: 7/141 (aarch64), 1/204 (x86_64)
New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-35-20211027.n.0):
ID: 1043715 Test: aarch64 Server-dvd-iso anaconda_help@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1043715
ID: 1043716 Test: aarch64 Server
On 28/10/2021 15:53, Chris Adams wrote:
New 500G SSDs are available under $50, and 1TB under $90.
QLC is not an option. Too slow outside of the SLC cache.
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 10:03, Kevin Kofler via devel
wrote:
>
> Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > a) Not have Lennart's name tied to a request. That just pulls in all
> > kinds of over-the-top statements where people will say 99.99% of the
> > people won't use it without any evidence.
>
> What does
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 02:10:37PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> It breaks libguestfs. It also breaks basic stuff like "what is
> installed in this container?" "Is this file owned by RPM?" "Has
> this
> file been modified?" I think deleting the RPM database is broken, and
> tools that
Perfect. Thank you Mamoru-san.
armv7hl is now back in.
Regards,
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:31 AM Mamoru TASAKA
wrote:
> Kaleb Keithley wrote on 2021/10/28 22:41:
> >
> >
> > See
> >
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/3MQ4ZRPS4MOIDG2RPAR6YX43V
On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 10:28 -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:
> Stephen John Smoogen writes:
>
> > Mainly because it is the authentication service equivalent of
> > telnet**. Very simple to set up, very simple to use, and very easy to
> > steal all the information about logins, users, and setups. [.
Kaleb Keithley wrote on 2021/10/28 22:41:
See
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/3MQ4ZRPS4MOIDG2RPAR6YX43VX2MCOLW/
I have not had a chance to follow through yet with a self contained
change...
Looks like the same "issue" written on
https://www
Stephen John Smoogen writes:
> Mainly because it is the authentication service equivalent of
> telnet**. Very simple to set up, very simple to use, and very easy to
> steal all the information about logins, users, and setups. [...]
... well, compared to what? LDAP commonly distributes crypttex
On Do, 28.10.21 14:24, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org)
wrote:
> Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > I understand you are not working with backtraces/coredumps every
> > day.
>
> For core dumps, this is true. (I have found those to not be of much use,
> other than getting a backtra
Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> What I just don't understand is why so much argument over a minuscule
> disk space increase. We can argue over the best way to create
> backtraces. But trying to step on the toes of other people who are
> working on this problem just because their work requires a tiny
> a
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 02:10:37PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 02:00:36PM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > 5. This proposal is not about licensing, but if it is adopted, it'll only
> > > make figuring out potential lice
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> a) Not have Lennart's name tied to a request. That just pulls in all
> kinds of over-the-top statements where people will say 99.99% of the
> people won't use it without any evidence.
What does Lennart's name have to do with this? I would have objected the
same way t
OLD: Fedora-35-20211027.n.0
NEW: Fedora-35-20211028.n.0
= SUMMARY =
Added images:0
Dropped images: 1
Added packages: 0
Dropped packages:0
Upgraded packages: 0
Downgraded packages: 0
Size of added packages: 0 B
Size of dropped packages:0 B
Size of upgraded
On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 03:24:07AM +0200, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> > == Owner ==
> > (for example using Fedora containers on Debian or vice versa),
>
> Containers ought to include the (guest) distribution's package database.
> Everything else is just broken and needs to be fixed.
Indeed.
Once upon a time, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel said:
> SSD is must have nowadays. Typical SSD size is still 128/256 GB,
> because 500+ GB is too expensive for now.
New 500G SSDs are available under $50, and 1TB under $90.
--
Chris Adams
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https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Stratis_3.0.0
== Summary ==
Stratis 3.0.0 includes many internal improvements, bug fixes, and
user-visible changes.
== Owner ==
* Name: [[User:dkeefe|Dennis Keefe]], [[User:mulhern|Anne Mulhern]],
[[User:jbaublitz|John Baublitz]]
* Email: dke...@redhat.com,
See
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/3MQ4ZRPS4MOIDG2RPAR6YX43VX2MCOLW/
I have not had a chance to follow through yet with a self contained
change...
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 9:36 AM Richard W.M. Jones
wrote:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/s
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018182
Looks like glusterfs has been dropped on armv7. Is this a permanent
state of affairs? Is there a bug about it?
(I don't care either way, just want to know if we should drop the
libvirt support for glusterfs on armv7 too.)
Rich.
--
Richard
Le 28/10/2021 à 10:50, Remi Collet a écrit :
Mass rebuild is in progress in f36-build-side-47161
which already have php-8.1.0~RC5-1.fc36
Mass rebuild done
58/63 packages were built with success and
are now available in rawhide
See: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2021-610b3547
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021 at 08:51, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
>
>
> What I just don't understand is why so much argument over a minuscule
> disk space increase. We can argue over the best way to create
> backtraces. But trying to step on the toes of other people who are
> working on this problem just bec
What I just don't understand is why so much argument over a minuscule
disk space increase. We can argue over the best way to create
backtraces. But trying to step on the toes of other people who are
working on this problem just because their work requires a tiny
annotation in each binary seem
Hi Everyone,
I currently have a review request open for
the sugar-view-slides package, the package was dropped a while back due
to an FTB and the package has been fixed and now builds but is still
been dropped by rawhide.
Can someone help me review it so it can get added back to rawhide?
Thanks.
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I understand you are not working with backtraces/coredumps every
> day.
For core dumps, this is true. (I have found those to not be of much use,
other than getting a backtrace, but I would rather just get the backtrace
directly.) For backtraces, it is not. I regularly
On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 23:47, Ian Kent wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 13:40 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 04:37:18PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote:
> > > == User Experience ==
> > > For some users this change may be a bit disruptive and it may
> > > require
> > > some learni
Hello,
This is a weekly report from the CPE (Community Platform Engineering)
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Hi Lennart,
On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 09:56 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> But as someone who's at the upstream receiving end of bug
> reports
> of one major project I can tell you that MiniDebugInfo is literally
> the best thing since sliced bread: in systemd upstream the bug reports
> we get fro
Hi Daniel,
On Wed, 2021-10-27 at 10:01 +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> Getting RPM NEVRs directly from the coredumps is something that
> will be incredibly helpful for people dealing with support
> requests after crashes. build-ids have always been very tedious
> to deal with and as you say RPM
> On 27/10/2021 21:38, Luca Boccassi wrote:
>
> I will ask additional information from user if the bug report has no
> useful backtrace.
Which you might get or not, and might be correct or not. This is what we
experience daily - just because you are lucky and don't need it, it doesn't
mean nob
No missing expected images.
Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)
Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20211027.0):
ID: 1043564 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://op
Hi,
I started working on PHP 8.1 on F36/Rawhide
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/php81
Mass rebuild is in progress in f36-build-side-47161
which already have php-8.1.0~RC5-1.fc36
I will try to take care of most extensions
so please don't build any, or use the side tag
and please tell me.
On 28/10/2021 00:22, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
IMHO, core dumps should not even be enabled by default to begin with. They
are typically just a useless waste of disk space. Uploading them is a bad
idea because they are huge and can contain sensitive personal information.
Yes, publishing and
On 27/10/2021 22:22, Lennart Poettering wrote:
So no, if you aren't interested in reading coredumps yourself you
won't benefit immediately. But if you want to increase the chance that
the various bugs you undoubtly run into every now and then have the
highest chance to be fixed quickly, then it's
On 27/10/2021 21:38, Luca Boccassi wrote:
As an upstream developer, you get what users send you, which might or might not
be what you prefer
I will ask additional information from user if the bug report has no
useful backtrace.
With this change, the bare minimum produced as a corefile is u
On Do, 28.10.21 00:22, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org)
wrote:
> And me mentioning "crash handler" and "no core dumps" together is
> not a mistake. A well-designed crash handler does NOT operate on
> core dumps, but on live processes. This implies that it should be
> trigger
On Do, 28.10.21 01:48, Fedora Development ML (devel@lists.fedoraproject.org)
wrote:
> That said, you are probably right that this change proposal is not the worst
> source of bloat we have ever encountered. There has been much worse. (Just
> in terms of bloat added to each ELF binary by Fedora-sp
No missing expected images.
Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)
Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20211027.0):
ID: 1043548 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud
URL: https://op
On 28/10/2021 00:43, Luca Boccassi wrote:
Today, 1 TB+ hard drives are common
Have you tried using modern GNU/Linux distributions on hard drives? I
tried. They were too slw.
SSD is must have nowadays. Typical SSD size is still 128/256 GB, because
500+ GB is too expensive for now.
--
S
Le 28/10/2021 à 08:33, l...@fedoraproject.org a écrit :
On 2021-10-27 10:21 a.m., "Antonio T. sagitter"
wrote:
Use a side-tag
(https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/package-maintainers/Package_Update_Guide/#multiple_packages),
please.
Done. '''
Side tag 'f36-build-side-47153' (id 47153) cr
Le 27/10/2021 à 01:42, Luya Tshimbalanga a écrit :
Hello team,
I would like to let you know ImageMagick-6.9.12-26 recently landed
upstream.
Learning from the previous experiences, I or my co-maintainer are
planning to commit and build this package for Rawhide only in about a
week, so the fo
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