Hi Lennart,

On Thu, 2021-10-28 at 09:56 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> But as someone who's at the upstream receiving end of bug
> reports
> of one major project I can tell you that MiniDebugInfo is literally
> the best thing since sliced bread: in systemd upstream the bug reports
> we get from Fedora are *ridiculously* more useful than bug reports
> from any other distro, since the default way how things are reported
> already carry backtraces that are quite useful. It's a complete mess
> with other distros, since we have to ask people to come back with
> proper backtraces with debuginfo installed, and only a subset of
> people is willing to bother with that. Bug reports from ArchLinux,
> Debian, Gentoo and so on are total crap by default compared to
> Fedora.

This is good to hear (the Fedora part). Note that we have moved all the
symbol/debuginfo manipulation done in Fedora into upstream rpm first
and have now spun out that part into a separate project "debugedit"
that rpm (and flatpak) now uses and that we hope other
distros/packaging tools will adopt: https://sourceware.org/debugedit/

  debugedit provides programs and scripts for creating debuginfo and
  source file distributions, collect build-ids and rewrite source paths
  in DWARF data for debugging, tracing and profiling.

So please point other distros/packagers our way and we'll try to work
with them to make these tools as useful to them as they are to Fedora.

Thanks,

Mark
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