Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Kevin Fenzi writes: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_meeting_process > > "Make sure to check with and invite stakeholders who may not be CC'd in > the issue. Consider deferring issue if stakeholders have not had > adequate notice and are not available for discussion." > > Perhaps it should

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 17:15, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 06:21:08PM +0200, Petr Menšík wrote: > > What would be considered sufficient research about usage of guile? If > > package provides it as optional feature among many other features, how > > should package o

Re: Collecting data from Fedora user community

2021-07-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 16:26, przemek klosowski via devel wrote: > > We had several discussions recently that could use some real-world data > on e.g.: > > - x86_64-v2 prevalence > > - GUILE usage in make/gdb > > - count of systems with UEFI/GPT vs BIOS/MBR > > - debugd server usage > > - etc > > T

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Aleksei Bavshin
On 7/7/21 2:14 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 06:21:08PM +0200, Petr Menšík wrote: What would be considered sufficient research about usage of guile? If package provides it as optional feature among many other features, how should package owner test one feature is

Re: Cascading library dependencies with different versions?

2021-07-07 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:42 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > That's what I was afraid of. I'm doing my best to make sure I notice > dependency chains like this but it's completely manual and could be error > prone. There seem to be a lot of kde 4 related dependencies, some of them > seem to build with

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 06:21:08PM +0200, Petr Menšík wrote: > What would be considered sufficient research about usage of guile? If > package provides it as optional feature among many other features, how > should package owner test one feature is still demanded? Do we have any > best practice? Is

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 02:27:39PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Fabio Valentini: > > > If it turns out that really actually nobody uses this, why not drop it > > upstream, and have the guile support removal come with the next GNU > > toolchain Change for Fedora? > > Guile support in GNU packa

Self Introduction: Didik Supriadi

2021-07-07 Thread Didik Supriadi
Hello, I'm Didik Supriadi from Agam, Indonesia. My FAS username is didiksupriadi41. I've been using fedora since release f26 and it's almost 10 fedora(s) until upcoming f35. I created this review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1980117 please take a look. ^ Didik S. __

Collecting data from Fedora user community

2021-07-07 Thread przemek klosowski via devel
We had several discussions recently that could use some real-world data on e.g.: - x86_64-v2 prevalence - GUILE usage in make/gdb - count of systems with UEFI/GPT vs BIOS/MBR - debugd server usage - etc The common thread is that some sort of measurement would help figuring out the best tec

Re: Cascading library dependencies with different versions?

2021-07-07 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 2:36 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 3:32 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > I had a hard time trying to describe what I'm talking about, perhaps > there's actually a term for it, but as I go through all the dependencies of > OpenEXR I wanted to know if this is a

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 03:31:21PM -0400, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Ben Cotton writes: > > > [...] I agree that enabling it for the fesco project would be > > good. It's probably insufficient, though. When the meeting chair sends > > the agenda, adding the owners on cc or bcc so that they get re

Re: Question on how to handle an upgrade case (vim-syntastic)

2021-07-07 Thread Martin Jackson
Thanks for the quick response!  I've submitted a new build to rawhide that fixes this. Marty On 7/7/21 12:46 PM, Paweł Marciniak wrote: but do I also need to obsolete older versions of the vim-syntastic-rnc subpackage? Yes, you have to. See: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-gu

Re: Cascading library dependencies with different versions?

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 3:32 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > I had a hard time trying to describe what I'm talking about, perhaps there's > actually a term for it, but as I go through all the dependencies of OpenEXR I > wanted to know if this is a problem or not which I think is best shown by > examp

Cascading library dependencies with different versions?

2021-07-07 Thread Richard Shaw
I had a hard time trying to describe what I'm talking about, perhaps there's actually a term for it, but as I go through all the dependencies of OpenEXR I wanted to know if this is a problem or not which I think is best shown by example: So part of the dependency chain for blender is: Blender --->

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Ben Cotton writes: > [...] I agree that enabling it for the fesco project would be > good. It's probably insufficient, though. When the meeting chair sends > the agenda, adding the owners on cc or bcc so that they get reminded > of time/location/etc is important. Since this gets overlooked with

Re: F35 Change: Third-party Software Mechanism (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-07-07 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 4:39 PM Mark Otaris wrote: > > I don’t agree with this change, as it seems obvious that many users who do > not want proprietary software installed do not want repositories with > proprietary software in them installed either (whether or not these > repositories are enabl

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 07. 21 17:01, Neal Gompa wrote: Is there scope for having self-contained changes implicitly approved 2 weeks after being posted to Fedora devel list in absence of controversy ? In that 2 week period, if someone raises an objection that does not get a satisfactorily resolved through discuss

Re: Question on how to handle an upgrade case (vim-syntastic)

2021-07-07 Thread Paweł Marciniak
PS. rnc subpackage is still built. You should remove this line "#%add_subpackage -n rnc rnv" or replace with this line "#%%add_subpackage -n rnc rnv" Please note the additional percent sign. You should also remove unnecessary files. e.g. "rm -r syntax_checkers/rnc" And of course add obsoletes (se

Re: Compat packages and pkgconfig & cmake provides

2021-07-07 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:39 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 2:29 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > > > NOTE: This is part of the ongoing saga that is the OpenEXR project. As > of 2.5.5 IlmBase was absorbed into the main OpenEXR library, and then with > 3.x imath was split out as a standal

Re: Compat packages and pkgconfig & cmake provides

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 2:29 PM Richard Shaw wrote: > > NOTE: This is part of the ongoing saga that is the OpenEXR project. As of > 2.5.5 IlmBase was absorbed into the main OpenEXR library, and then with 3.x > imath was split out as a standalone library. > > I've built openexr2 since many package

Re: F35 Change: Filtered Flathub Applications (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-07-07 Thread Owen Taylor
On Sat, Jul 3, 2021 at 6:14 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 10:26 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Filtered_Flathub_Applications > > > > == Summary == > > Enabling third-party repositories will now create a Flathub remote > > that is a filt

Compat packages and pkgconfig & cmake provides

2021-07-07 Thread Richard Shaw
NOTE: This is part of the ongoing saga that is the OpenEXR project. As of 2.5.5 IlmBase was absorbed into the main OpenEXR library, and then with 3.x imath was split out as a standalone library. I've built openexr2 since many packages don't support openexr 3.x. I also set openexr2-devel to conflic

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2021-07-08 16:00 UTC)

2021-07-07 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2021-07-08 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.libera.chat.  Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2021-07-08 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2021-07-08 12

Re: wlroots 0.14.0 is coming to rawhide

2021-07-07 Thread Aleksei Bavshin
On 6/26/21 2:52 PM, Aleksei Bavshin wrote: Rawhide update ETA is in a week from this message or when all the required builds are complete. Wlroots 0.14 and new versions of dependent packages are now available in rawhide. Thanks to everyone for your help with this update! sway:rolling modul

Re: Question on how to handle an upgrade case (vim-syntastic)

2021-07-07 Thread Paweł Marciniak
> but do I also need to obsolete older versions of the > vim-syntastic-rnc subpackage? Yes, you have to. See: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/#renaming-or-replacing-existing-packages ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedo

Re: Question on how to handle an upgrade case (vim-syntastic)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 12:42 PM Martin Jackson wrote: > > Hello, > > I use and like vim-syntastic, so I took it from the orphan list. > > There is an open bug on it that led to its retirement, that the rnc > subpackage fails to install because rnv is no longer available. > > It's straightforward e

Unorphaning qtpass

2021-07-07 Thread Arthur Bols
Hi all, I am claiming qtpass [0] which is currently orphaned. Kind regards, Arthur [0]: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qtpass ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.o

Question on how to handle an upgrade case (vim-syntastic)

2021-07-07 Thread Martin Jackson
Hello, I use and like vim-syntastic, so I took it from the orphan list. There is an open bug on it that led to its retirement, that the rnc subpackage fails to install because rnv is no longer available. It's straightforward enough to stop building the -rnc subpackage for vim-syntastic, but

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2021-07-07 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:23 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 06/07/2021 23:27, Christian Stadelmann wrote: > > In other words: I think it is too early to drop non-(U)EFI BIOS support. > > Btw, the upcoming Windows 11 will require full UEFI support, enabled > UEFI Secure Boot and TPM 2.0.

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Petr Menšík
On 7/7/21 2:21 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:38 PM Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> * Neal Gompa: >>> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? >>> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on >>> Guile. N

Re: ELN rebuild ordering fail (was Re: userspace-rcu 0.13.0 soname bump)

2021-07-07 Thread Troy Dawson
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 2:00 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 02:30:42PM -0400, Michael Jeanson wrote: > > I have started the process to update userspace-rcu to 0.13 in rawhide > which > > implies a soname bump to 8. > > > > From what I understand, the following packages will

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephen John Smoogen: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 11:45, Florian Weimer wrote: >> >> * Stephen John Smoogen: >> >> > C) This proposal was reviewed and pushed again for F35 even if it is >> > 'too late' because well this just doesn't sit well. >> >> This doesn't make sense to me—what is “this propos

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Source-git SIG

2021-07-07 Thread Jiri Popelka
Notes from the meeting: https://pagure.io/fedora-source-git/sig/blob/main/f/meeting-minutes/2021-07-07.md On 7/6/21 4:30 PM, cs...@redhat.com wrote: Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora Source-git SIG on 2021-07-07 from 14:30:00 to 15:30:00 GMT At meet.google.com/mi

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 11:45, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Stephen John Smoogen: > > > C) This proposal was reviewed and pushed again for F35 even if it is > > 'too late' because well this just doesn't sit well. > > This doesn't make sense to me—what is “this proposal”, and how it was > “pushed agai

Unretiring rust-nalgebra package

2021-07-07 Thread Rémi Lauzier via devel
Hi fedorans, I am in the process to unretired rust-nalgebra as I need it for other package. I have made it produce a package by disabling tests and packaging some of its dependency. Here the Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1980025 Here the pagure request: https://pagure.io/

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephen John Smoogen: > C) This proposal was reviewed and pushed again for F35 even if it is > 'too late' because well this just doesn't sit well. This doesn't make sense to me—what is “this proposal”, and how it was “pushed again”? Thanks, Florian _

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 08:54, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > [1]: > > https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/fesco/fesco.2021-02-03-15.00.log.html > > Maybe if the GNU Toolchain developers did not show up and there > was no majority, then the right thing to do for Fesco would have > been to po

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:46 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 09:56:43AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel P. Berrangé > > wrote: > > > > > > I'm far less convinced FESCo formally voting is beneficial > > > for (uncontroversial) self-conta

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 09:56:43AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > I'm far less convinced FESCo formally voting is beneficial > > for (uncontroversial) self-contained changes, where the goal > > of the maintainer is largely just to make s

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:25 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:23 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:20 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > > > Does Pagure send notification email on label changes? Could that be a > > > way to notice an upcoming meeting? > > >

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Source-git SIG

2021-07-07 Thread Luna Jernberg
i updated your Wikipage with a link to Libera for this your irc channel instead of Freenode hope that was fine On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 4:14 PM Luna Jernberg wrote: > Hello! > > i will guest your meeting this week :) > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM wrote: > >> Dear all, >> >> You are kindly in

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:22 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > > > I wonder if the process we're following (as it is defined today) > > is actually beneficial for self-contained changes ? Did having a > > vote which rejected the change actually

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:23 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:20 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > Does Pagure send notification email on label changes? Could that be a > > way to notice an upcoming meeting? > > > > It can be configured to do so on a per-project basis. We probab

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 10:20 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Ben Cotton: > > > It wouldn't have even come up in a meeting except there were a couple > > of FESCo members opposed to it. If we're going to change processes, > > perhaps the better change is to explicitly invite people to the > > meetin

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > I wonder if the process we're following (as it is defined today) > is actually beneficial for self-contained changes ? Did having a > vote which rejected the change actually improve Fedora, or was > it just busy work that is better elimi

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ben Cotton: > It wouldn't have even come up in a meeting except there were a couple > of FESCo members opposed to it. If we're going to change processes, > perhaps the better change is to explicitly invite people to the > meeting when their Change proposal is on the agenda. It probably would ha

Re: Starting a riscv64 VM from an ArchLinux x86_64 host

2021-07-07 Thread Steven A. Falco
I too was having the error about overlapping regions. Adding "-bios none" solved the problem. Thanks! I wanted to use virt-install to set up my VM, and it turns out I could get the same effect by adding --qemu-commandline='-bios none' to that command line: virt-install --qemu-commandline='-b

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Source-git SIG

2021-07-07 Thread Luna Jernberg
Hello! i will guest your meeting this week :) On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 4:30 PM wrote: > Dear all, > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: >Fedora Source-git SIG on 2021-07-07 from 14:30:00 to 15:30:00 GMT >At meet.google.com/mic-otnv-kse > > The meeting will be about: > Bi-weekly meeti

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:38 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 03:09:47PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On 7/7/21 2:14 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > * Hans de Goede: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> > > >> On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > >>> * Neal Gompa:

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

2021-07-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 02:06:16PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > * The guile maintainers don't want guile to be a dependency of the > core toolchain either. It was pointed out to me off list that this statement isn't accurate - I confused a toolchain maintainer with a guile maintainer. Ric

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2021-07-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 07. 21 15:26, Peter Robinson wrote: sugar-view-slidescallkalpa, chimosky, pbrobinson, tuxbrewr Fedora 31 I believe the sugar people are working on that now. As said last week: """ Fails to install, fails to build since Fedora 32, was exempted from this policy last time with a pr

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 03:09:47PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 7/7/21 2:14 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Hans de Goede: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > >>> * Neal Gompa: > >>> > Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > >>> > >>> We have a mandate

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2021-07-07 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:45 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Dear maintainers. > > Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages > will be retired from Fedora 35 approximately one week before branching (August > 2021). > > Policy: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fe

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-07-07 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:40 AM Luna Jernberg wrote: > > So no Meeting today ? > Prioritized Bugs meetings happen every two weeks. See https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/9964/ -- Ben Cotton He / Him / His Fedora Program Manager Red Hat TZ=America/Indiana/Indianapolis _

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 7/7/21 2:14 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Hans de Goede: > >> Hi, >> >> On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> * Neal Gompa: >>> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? >>> >>> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on >>> Guile. Naturally that makes update

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 9:06 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > I hope a reasonable summary is: > > * The core toolchain maintainers don't want guile to be a requirement. > > * The guile maintainers don't want guile to be a dependency of the > core toolchain either. > > * With a small adjustment,

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

2021-07-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I hope a reasonable summary is: * The core toolchain maintainers don't want guile to be a requirement. * The guile maintainers don't want guile to be a dependency of the core toolchain either. * With a small adjustment, Makefiles which use guile can be changed even if make itelf doesn't sup

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 7/7/21 1:53 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:38 AM Hans de Goede wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> * Neal Gompa: >>> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? >>> >>> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on >>> Gui

Re: Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 8:14 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Hans de Goede: > > > Hi, > > > > On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Neal Gompa: > >> > >>> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > >> > >> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > >> Guile. Naturally

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Daniel P. Berrangé: > What's notable to me is that, generally speaking, maintainers use > their own discretion as to which optional features they enable > or disable with a package built in Fedora. I'd expect that in most > cases similar to this a maintainer will just disable the feature, > do a

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Fabio Valentini: > If it turns out that really actually nobody uses this, why not drop it > upstream, and have the guile support removal come with the next GNU > toolchain Change for Fedora? Guile support in GNU packages is a goal of the GNU project, I think. Where Guile is used as a scripting

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 1:38 PM Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > >> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > > > > We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > > Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficu

Guile & Fesco requiring package maintenance work (was: Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages)

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Hans de Goede: > Hi, > > On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Neal Gompa: >> >>> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? >> >> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on >> Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficult. > > So I've gone and checked the Fesc

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 07. 07. 21 13:38, Hans de Goede wrote: Hi, On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Neal Gompa: Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficult. So I've gone and checked the F

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 01:38:18PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > >> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > > > > We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > > Guile. Naturally that makes updates rat

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:38 AM Hans de Goede wrote: > > Hi, > > On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > >> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > > > > We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > > Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficu

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 7/7/21 1:33 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:18 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >> >> * Neal Gompa: >> >>> On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:08 AM Florian Weimer wrote: * Neal Gompa: > Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? We have a mandate from Fesco that the co

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-07-07 Thread Luna Jernberg
So no Meeting today ? On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 1:53 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 7:00 AM wrote: > > > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: > >Prioritized bugs and issues on 2021-06-30 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 > America/Indiana/Indianapolis > >At fedora-meetin...@li

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 7/7/21 1:08 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Neal Gompa: > >> Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > > We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficult. So I've gone and checked the Fesco issue where dropping guile sup

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:18 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:08 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > >> > >> * Neal Gompa: > >> > >> > Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > >> > >> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > >> Guile. Natur

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2021-07-07 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 11.59.18 WEST Chuck Anderson wrote: > I'm not listed as a (co)maintainer, so I'm not sure how I ended up on > this list. By a transitive dependency relation... :-) Basically one of your packages depends on another package that depends on guile22. -- José Abílio___

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:08 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >> >> * Neal Gompa: >> >> > Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? >> >> We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on >> Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficult. > > Are you telling me that GNU M

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2021-07-07 Thread Dan Horák
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 06:59:18 -0400 Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:18:04AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > cra: guile22 > > I'm not listed as a (co)maintainer, so I'm not sure how I ended up on > this list. because a package you maintain depends (even indirectly) on guile22, se

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 7:08 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? > > We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on > Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficult. > Are you telling me that GNU Make doesn't support GNU G

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages

2021-07-07 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > Wait, why don't we have guile 3.0? We have a mandate from Fesco that the core toolchain must depend on Guile. Naturally that makes updates rather difficult. Thanks, Florian ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To uns

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2021-07-07 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:18:04AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > cra: guile22 I'm not listed as a (co)maintainer, so I'm not sure how I ended up on this list. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-l

Re: guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

2021-07-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Jul 7, 2021 at 6:08 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:18:04AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > guile22 mlichvar, orphan 1 weeks > > ago > > There's a dependency chain going from guile22 -> gnutls-devel -> lots > of virtuali

guile22 -> gnutls -> lots of virt packages (was: Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers)

2021-07-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jul 07, 2021 at 11:18:04AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > guile22 mlichvar, orphan 1 weeks ago There's a dependency chain going from guile22 -> gnutls-devel -> lots of virtualization packages. This dependency provides gnutls bindings for guile progr

Re: Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2021-07-07 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 7/7/21 11:18 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they > are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure > that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: > https://fedoraproject.org/wi

Orphaned packages looking for new maintainers

2021-07-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
The following packages are orphaned and will be retired when they are orphaned for six weeks, unless someone adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please do so now with a proper reason: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life Note: If

ELN rebuild ordering fail (was Re: userspace-rcu 0.13.0 soname bump)

2021-07-07 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 02:30:42PM -0400, Michael Jeanson wrote: > I have started the process to update userspace-rcu to 0.13 in rawhide which > implies a soname bump to 8. > > From what I understand, the following packages will need to be rebuilt: > > device-mapper-multipath > glusterfs > knot >

List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

2021-07-07 Thread Miro Hrončok
Dear maintainers. Based on the current fail to build from source policy, the following packages will be retired from Fedora 35 approximately one week before branching (August 2021). Policy: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Fails_to_build_from_source_Fails_to_install/ The packages

Re: The future of legacy BIOS support in Fedora.

2021-07-07 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06/07/2021 23:27, Christian Stadelmann wrote: In other words: I think it is too early to drop non-(U)EFI BIOS support. Btw, the upcoming Windows 11 will require full UEFI support, enabled UEFI Secure Boot and TPM 2.0. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)