Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said:
> Is there any software or service that currently uses Berkeley DB that
> cannot reasonably be discarded and rebuilt from scratch for new
> versions of that software, without Berkeley DB entirely, as part of a
> Fedora release?
One problem is the upgrade
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:53 PM Jerry James wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> > The lack of a good backup tool for Berkeley DB earned me nearly a year
> > of contracting salary from the BBC to keep alive an obsolete Berkeley
> > DB and Apache 1.3 on RHEL syst
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:29 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> The lack of a good backup tool for Berkeley DB earned me nearly a year
> of contracting salary from the BBC to keep alive an obsolete Berkeley
> DB and Apache 1.3 on RHEL systems long after httpd 2.x was released.
> It was discarded by Su
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 1:17 PM Jerry James wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:09 AM Filip Janus wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > as you maybe know the BerkeleyDB 6.x has a more restrictive license than
> > the previous versions (AGPLv3 vs. LGPLv2), and due to that many projects
> > cannot use it.
> >
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:30 PM Brendan Conoboy wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:14 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:27:36AM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > > One potential output of this change would be to have editions choose
> > > what buildroot they are based on. As
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:14 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:27:36AM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> > One potential output of this change would be to have editions choose
> > what buildroot they are based on. As an example, Fedora Server, which
> > has struggled to find its el
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 13:09 +, Fedora compose checker wrote:
> No missing expected images.
>
> Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check!
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> below
>
> Failed openQA tests:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:27:36AM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:31 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> [snip]
> > > ### Use cases ###
> > >
> > > The first example of such a buildroot is provided by the CPU baseline
> > > testing [1].
> > >
> > > There will be more, since we may w
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 07:57:43PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:56 AM Fabio Valentini
> > wrote:
> > > - What does AAA stand for? (Or am I supposed to know that already?)
> > > - What is this new group actually working on?
> > >
> > > The only "sub
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:47:05PM +, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>
> Thank you. I had a look at the user stories and wondered: is it merely
> meant to be a modernisation/rewrite of FAS with the same features
> (and I assume: back-end improvements), or are new user facing (and
> other) features also in
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 02:09:45PM +0100, Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
>
> While on one hand we don't need a long-term storage for development
> builds, on the other: it is quite valuable to be able to compare the
> latest successful build with some previous ones to see if we actually
> improve anyt
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:49:26AM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> Not sure this notification is trustworthy O:-)
yeah, not so much. ;)
This is an old report, must have been mistakenly allowed through
moderation. :(
Anyhow, I have cleaned up the source and it shouldn't show up again.
it would be
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 13:36 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote:
> I just built gnome-desktop3-3.35.4-1.fc32 that bumps soname in rawhide.
> I've rebuilt all packages depending on it, with the exception of
> gnome-screensaver that fails to build.
>
> yselkowitz (CCd), could you look into fixing gnome-screen
Would it be possible to have a libdb-compat package with the 5.x
version to at least decouple the packages that are somewhat stuck with
that version of libdb and the ones that can use newer version?
I still need to figure out how sasl can switch databases, the problem
is that I do not want to tras
On 16. 01. 20 21:55, David Malcolm wrote:
If a traceback for an exception includes files from the .zip, can the
traceback-printing machinery still print the pertinent lines of source?
Apparently no:
$ echo 0/0 > t.py
$ zip t.zip t.py
adding: t.py (stored 0%)
$ python -c 'import t'
Traceback
Planned Outage - teams.fedoraproject.org - 2020-01-23 08:00 UTC
There will be an outage starting at 2020-01-23 08:00 UTC
which will last approximately 2 hours.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '2020-01-23 08:0
Le jeudi 16 janvier 2020 à 22:00 +0100, Felix Schwarz a écrit :
>
> If I understood Nicolas correctly this was about installing multiple
> versions
> of the same *library* in the global Python site-packages directory?
Whatever you wish to call it :) The non stdlib parts projects do not
seem to ag
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 15:42, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Mark Reynolds wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 1/16/20 2:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote:
> > >> 389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory S
Am 16.01.20 um 21:15 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
>> Accommodating component versioning would mean deploying
>>
>> /usr/lib/pythonxx/site-packages/something-semver.zip
>
> This path includes xx, which contains the major and minor numbers. So
> adding "semver" would only allow accommodatin
On 1/16/20 3:42 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Mark Reynolds wrote:
On 1/16/20 2:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote:
389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is dependent
on libdb. W
On Thu, 2020-01-16 at 10:27 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 15. 01. 20 23:11, Victor Stinner wrote:
> > > Solution 4: ZIP the entire standard library
> > > (...)
> > > Nevertheless, this might (in theory) **save 17.8 MiB / 47 %**.
> >
> > It's my favorite option. Almost 50% smaller is quite good!
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Mark Reynolds wrote:
>
>
> On 1/16/20 2:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote:
> >> 389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is
> >> dependent on libdb. We are currently working towards mov
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 03:36:11PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot via devel wrote:
> Le 2020-01-16 15:10, Felix Schwarz a écrit :
> >Am 16.01.20 um 13:37 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot via devel:
> >>If we start messing with the Python tree it would be nice to put
> >>each shared
> >>python component in a separat
On 1/16/20 2:38 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote:
389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is dependent
on libdb. We are currently working towards moving to LMDB, but that work is
probably a year away from being fully
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 2:13 PM Christian Glombek wrote:
>
> On a side note (and without reading all of the above in detail), I'd like to
> note that Fedora CoreOS (aka FCOS) is completely Python free by now -
> probably not achievable for Desktop, but it may be for IoT.
>
Unfortunately neither
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:35, Mark Reynolds wrote:
>
> 389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is
> dependent on libdb. We are currently working towards moving to LMDB, but
> that work is probably a year away from being fully complete. We are
> hoping/planning to hav
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 8:31 AM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
[snip]
> > ### Use cases ###
> >
> > The first example of such a buildroot is provided by the CPU baseline
> > testing [1].
> >
> > There will be more, since we may want to work on comps files for
> > Minimization Objective.
>
> Yeah, but comps fi
389 Directory Server (389-ds-base), aka Red Hat Directory Server, is
dependent on libdb. We are currently working towards moving to LMDB,
but that work is probably a year away from being fully complete. We are
hoping/planning to have it done for the next major release of RHEL. I
would hope l
On a side note (and without reading all of the above in detail), I'd like
to note that Fedora CoreOS (aka FCOS) is completely Python free by now -
probably not achievable for Desktop, but it may be for IoT.
Miroslav Suchý schrieb am Do., 16. Jan. 2020, 16:35:
> Dne 15. 01. 20 v 18:05 Miro Hronč
Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:56 AM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > - What does AAA stand for? (Or am I supposed to know that already?)
> > - What is this new group actually working on?
> >
> > The only "substantial" thing I can see here are the three words "AAA
> > replacement login",
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 9:09 AM Filip Janus wrote:
> Hi all,
> as you maybe know the BerkeleyDB 6.x has a more restrictive license than the
> previous versions (AGPLv3 vs. LGPLv2), and due to that many projects cannot
> use it.
> Few years ago there was an effort to reduce the number of dependen
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 11:09 AM Filip Janus wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> as you maybe know the BerkeleyDB 6.x has a more restrictive license than the
> previous versions (AGPLv3 vs. LGPLv2), and due to that many projects cannot
> use it.
> Few years ago there was an effort to reduce the number of depen
Hi all,
as you maybe know the BerkeleyDB 6.x has a more restrictive license than
the previous versions (AGPLv3 vs. LGPLv2), and due to that many projects
cannot use it.
Few years ago there was an effort to reduce the number of dependent
packages on BerkeleyDB(libdb). And nowadays situation seems to
On 1/16/20 9:39 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/wiki/Feature-container-for-bootstrap
Right, but it still doesn't work.
[pilcher@breadbox ~]$ cat /etc/centos-release
CentOS Linux release 7.7.1908 (Core)
[pilcher@breadbox ~]$ cd /etc/mock/templates
[pil
Dne 15. 01. 20 v 18:07 Ian Pilcher napsal(a):
> Is $SUBJECT possible these days?
>
> I've tried with both --bootstrap-chroot and --use-bootstrap-image, but
> the build is failing with:
>
> ERROR: builddep command missing.
> Please install package dnf-plugins-core.
>
> This happens even when
https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/pull-request/50826
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Dne 15. 01. 20 v 18:05 Miro Hrončok napsal(a):
> ### Solution 2: Move developer oriented modules to python3-devel (or split
> the stdlib into pieces)
+1
> ### Solution 5: Stop shipping mandatory bytecode cache
+1
> Problem 5.1: Slower starts without bytecode cache
Especially in container
Le 2020-01-16 15:10, Felix Schwarz a écrit :
Am 16.01.20 um 13:37 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot via devel:
If we start messing with the Python tree it would be nice to put each
shared
python component in a separate zip/xz/whatever, and allow versioning
those
archives
(ie use the highest semver zip
Am 16.01.20 um 13:37 schrieb Nicolas Mailhot via devel:
> If we start messing with the Python tree it would be nice to put each shared
> python component in a separate zip/xz/whatever, and allow versioning those
> archives
>
> (ie use the highest semver zip present unless the code explicitely req
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:46 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:43 AM Justin Forbes wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:11 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:01 AM Aleksandra Fedorova
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Chris,
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, J
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:43 AM Justin Forbes wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:11 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:01 AM Aleksandra Fedorova
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Chris,
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:29 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Once upon a ti
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:11 AM Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:01 AM Aleksandra Fedorova
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Chris,
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:29 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> > >
> > > Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova said:
> > > > Similarly to what Josh said, we want
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 8:01 AM Aleksandra Fedorova wrote:
>
> Hi, Chris,
>
> On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:29 PM Chris Adams wrote:
> >
> > Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova said:
> > > Similarly to what Josh said, we want to setup an environment for
> > > experiments.
> > > It doesn't mean th
On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 5:18 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 10:52:32AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Kevin Fenzi:
> >
> > > Can packages built in this buildroot be used on the same system with
> > > packages from the normal buildroot?
> >
> > Yes, I expect them to be compat
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Hi, Chris,
On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 4:29 PM Chris Adams wrote:
>
> Once upon a time, Aleksandra Fedorova said:
> > Similarly to what Josh said, we want to setup an environment for
> > experiments.
> > It doesn't mean that things we experiment on are going to be merged in
> > Fedora. And it defin
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 11:46:50 +, Sarah Finn wrote:
> Hi all,
Hello,
>
> I hope you are all well.
>
> I would like to invite you to contribute to our new initiative: AAA
> replacement login.
Thank you. I had a look at the user stories and wondered: is it merely
meant to be a modernisation
Le 2020-01-16 11:18, Felix Schwarz a écrit :
Am 15.01.20 um 23:11 schrieb Victor Stinner:
This solution is well supported by unmodified Python: it's part of the
default sys.path search path:
$ python3
Python 3.7.6 (default, Dec 19 2019, 22:52:49)
import sys; sys.path
['', '/usr/lib64/python37
Hi all,
I just built gnome-desktop3-3.35.4-1.fc32 that bumps soname in rawhide.
I've rebuilt all packages depending on it, with the exception of
gnome-screensaver that fails to build.
yselkowitz (CCd), could you look into fixing gnome-screensaver? (or
retiring it? GNOME hasn't used it for years
Hi Neal,
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 06:44:22AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 5:15 AM Phil Sutter wrote:
[...]
> > Yes, firewalld depends on 'iptables'. My big question is how to make
> > that dependency prefer iptables-nft (assuming it 'Provides: iptables').
> >
>
> Requires: ip
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On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:56 AM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:47 PM Sarah Finn wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I hope you are all well.
> >
> > I would like to invite you to contribute to our new initiative: AAA
> > replacement login.
>
> Hi!
>
> Uhm, I have two (or three)
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 12:47 PM Sarah Finn wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I hope you are all well.
>
> I would like to invite you to contribute to our new initiative: AAA
> replacement login.
Hi!
Uhm, I have two (or three) simple questions ...
- What does AAA stand for? (Or am I supposed to know that
Hi all,
I hope you are all well.
I would like to invite you to contribute to our new initiative: AAA
replacement login.
Currently, we have a team of 4 Red Hatters working on this. We have chosen
to work within a Scrum framework. Our first ( 2 week) sprint kicked off
last week 1/7/20 with a sprin
On 16. 01. 20 11:16, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
So we clearly
need to keep the possibility of installing .pyc files, at least optionally.
To clarify: We would keep the .pyc files by default. We would only provide an
opt-out.
No, it will not (TTBMK). The file (or the lack of it) will
Am 15.01.20 um 23:11 schrieb Victor Stinner:
> This solution is well supported by unmodified Python: it's part of the
> default sys.path search path:
>
> $ python3
> Python 3.7.6 (default, Dec 19 2019, 22:52:49)
import sys; sys.path
> ['', '/usr/lib64/python37.zip', ...]
>
> It's the second
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 10:33:32AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 15. 01. 20 23:59, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:05:42PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> >>### File types (and bytecode caches)
> >>
> >>The orthogonal dimension is the file type. Python standard libra
Not sure this notification is trustworthy O:-)
Vít
Dne 13. 01. 20 v 11:00 nob...@fedoraproject.org napsal(a):
> Change in package status over the last 168 hours
>
>
> 0 packages were orphaned
>
>
> 0 packages were retire
On 15. 01. 20 23:59, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 06:05:42PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote:
### File types (and bytecode caches)
The orthogonal dimension is the file type. Python standard library
contains directories with both "extension modules" (written in C
(usually
On 15. 01. 20 23:11, Victor Stinner wrote:
Solution 4: ZIP the entire standard library
(...)
Nevertheless, this might (in theory) **save 17.8 MiB / 47 %**.
It's my favorite option. Almost 50% smaller is quite good! It would be
very efficient to have such disk space gain!
Using a ZIP file for t
On 15. 01. 20 18:56, Chris wrote:
That's an amazing amount of work!
Thanks.
My only criticism would be:
- the quest for reducing disk space is getting a bit over the top. I mean to
make comparisons to 3.5" floppy disks which haven't been around for 20 years?
That is obviously only used t
On Thursday, January 16, 2020 6:12:42 AM CET Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 12:08 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
> There are notes in the "mock" buglists
> at:https://github.com/rpm-software-management/mock/issues/390 . The
> short answer is "not very well". The dnf tools in RHEL 7 and
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