Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, December 13, 2019 1:34:29 PM MST Mike Pinkerton wrote: > On 13 Dec 2019, at 15:03, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > > > On Friday, December 13, 2019 12:53:57 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> What? There are only two images that are release blocking for optical > >> media righ

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2019-12-14 at 02:30 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Simo Sorce wrote: > > Install from optical is not anymore release critical, that is evident. > > To whom? All the VM testing I do is always with -cdrom foo.iso, so it would > break my VM testing completely. And there is also real hardware t

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 12:02 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12. 12. 19 21:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_Optical_Media_Criterion > > > > = Drop Optical Media Release Criterion = > > > > == Summary == > > Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2019-12-14 at 02:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Chris Murphy wrote: > > What? There are only two images that are release blocking for optical > > media right now. > > > > Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64- > _RELEASE_MILESTONE_.iso > > Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Wo

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Simo Sorce wrote: > Install from optical is not anymore release critical, that is evident. To whom? All the VM testing I do is always with -cdrom foo.iso, so it would break my VM testing completely. And there is also real hardware that it would break (and there, you cannot work around it by just

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > What? There are only two images that are release blocking for optical > media right now. > > Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64- _RELEASE_MILESTONE_.iso > Workstation/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64- _RELEASE_MILESTONE_.iso > https://fedoraprojec

Re: [minimization] Feedback Pipeline feedback wanted

2019-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 11:17 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > It...*could* also work for non-candidate (i.e. nightly) Pungi 4 > composes that have been garbage collected by retrieving the info from > PDC, but this thread has made me realize that's a path that I've sort > of shut off with some desi

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread stan via devel
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 15:34:29 -0500 Mike Pinkerton wrote: > I would say that the Everything netinstall image is more useful than > the Workstation Live image: > > * netinstall is smaller > * netinstall can be used to install servers > * netinstall with updates repo enabled yields current sys

Re: Updates impossible from iOS

2019-12-13 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 3:09 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > I've just unpushed it and removed the bug reference. An update for > txt2man-1.6.0-7.el8 was already submitted by you 4 days ago: > https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2019-aa7ab9e560

Re: CPE Weekly: 2019-12-13

2019-12-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 01:48:07PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 12/13/19 1:42 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: > > Red Hat does a 2 week end of year shutdown where nearly everyone is > > encouraged to spend time away from computers and family. > > I know that's not how you meant to say it, but t

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 13 Dec 2019, at 15:03, John M. Harris Jr wrote: On Friday, December 13, 2019 12:53:57 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: What? There are only two images that are release blocking for optical media right now. Everything/x86_64/iso/Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64- _RELEASE_MILESTONE_.i so Workst

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, December 13, 2019 12:53:57 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 10:24 AM John M. Harris Jr > wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:52:15 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > > > > We'll just have to see if there's an easy fix for the util-linux > > > commit tha

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Stop shipping individual component libraries in clang-libs package

2019-12-13 Thread Tom Stellard
On 12/12/2019 03:32 PM, Dan Čermák wrote: > Ben Cotton writes: > > [snip] >> >> == Dependencies == >> The following packages depend on clang-libs and will need to be updated: >> >> * bcc >> * bpftrace >> * castxml >> * ccls > > ccls has already been fixed upstream to support building against > l

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 10:24 AM John M. Harris Jr wrote: > > On Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:52:15 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > > We'll just have to see if there's an easy fix for the util-linux > > commit that broke this, which is kinda what I'm expecting. But it > > might be reasonable to hav

Re: CPE Weekly: 2019-12-13

2019-12-13 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 12/13/19 1:42 PM, Aoife Moloney wrote: Red Hat does a 2 week end of year shutdown where nearly everyone is encouraged to spend time away from computers and family. I know that's not how you meant to say it, but the end result is pretty funny. :) _

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 4:03 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 12. 12. 19 21:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_Optical_Media_Criterion > > > > = Drop Optical Media Release Criterion = > > > > == Summary == > > Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking.

CPE Weekly: 2019-12-13

2019-12-13 Thread Aoife Moloney
Hi everyone, Welcome to the CPE team weekly project update mail! Background: The Community Platform Engineering group is the Red Hat team combining IT and release engineering from Fedora and CentOS. Our goal is to keep core servers and services running and maintained, build releases, and othe

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, December 13, 2019 12:16:12 PM MST Simo Sorce wrote: > And *all* old devices also have USB outlets, so it is unclear how this > would make Fedora not installable. > Any machine so old to have optical media but not USB is probably > already not working due to other factors like being i686

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 10:28 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote: > On Friday, December 13, 2019 2:00:41 AM MST Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > [snip] > > I don't expect to suddenly have F32 released with broken boot from > > optical media. > > If we don't want that to occur, optical media needs to remain

Re: [minimization] Feedback Pipeline feedback wanted

2019-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
t fedfind can help with. As an example of where you'd start: #!/bin/python3 import fedfind.release import fedfind.helpers rel = fedfind.release.get_release(cid="Fedora-Rawhide-20191213.n.0") #rel = fedfind.release.get_release(1) for img in rel.all_images: imgid = fedfind.helpers

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Fri, 2019-12-13 at 03:17 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ben Cotton wrote: > > Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking. This means > > we'd stop blocking on bugs found during the installation of Fedora > > from optical media (like CDs and DVDs). This doesn't mean that > > installatio

Re: [minimization] Feedback Pipeline feedback wanted

2019-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 12:59 +0100, Adam Samalik wrote: > The Minimization Objective[1] has been going on for a while. There are two > high-level goals: making things smaller, and keeping things smaller. On the > keeping smaller side, the team prototyped a service called Feedback > Pipeline [2] that

koji builder status

2019-12-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Greetings. I just thought I would share a short status update on koji builders with everyone. As many of you know, we like to keep the Fedora koji builders on the current most recent stable Fedora release. This is to make sure we have compatible rpm, etc to build rawhide and all our stable update

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Friday, December 13, 2019 2:00:41 AM MST Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: [snip] > I don't expect to suddenly have F32 released with broken boot from > optical media. If we don't want that to occur, optical media needs to remain a release blocker. -- John M. Harris, Jr. Splentity

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread John M. Harris Jr
On Thursday, December 12, 2019 10:52:15 PM MST Chris Murphy wrote: > The work around is part of testing the scope of the bug. It's not a > prescription for production use. This is precisely why I believe that optical media should continue to be release blocking. [snip] > We'll just have to see

Re: [minimization] Feedback Pipeline feedback wanted

2019-12-13 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 12:59:03PM +0100, Adam Samalik wrote: > The Minimization Objective[1] has been going on for a while. There are two > high-level goals: making things smaller, and keeping things smaller. On the > keeping smaller side, the team prototyped a service called Feedback > Pipeline [

Rust review swaps

2019-12-13 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Hello, I have a bunch of Rust package to review, would you please give some help in exchange of swaps? 1763433[1] _Review Request: rust-chunked_transfer - Encoder and decoder for HTTP chunked transfer coding (RFC 7230 § 4 _ 2019-12-07 21:27:57 UTC 1763459[2] _Review Request: rust-multipa

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread David Cantrell
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 07:59:54PM -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: Ok, obvious question first... Has this caused any problems? When was the last time this failed? The latter part is for selfish reasons... I still have one (decent) computer with primitive EFI BIOS that will only boot UEFI from optical

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20191213.n.0 changes

2019-12-13 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20191212.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20191213.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 4 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 37 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 8.89 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Self Introduction: Joerg Kastning

2019-12-13 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 13:36:58 +0100, jkastn...@my-it-brain.de wrote: > Hello to everyone, Hello Joerg, > My name is Joerg Kastning and I'm a Sysadmin who is currently working > for the Bielefeld University. > > On my carreer counter I have round about 15 years of expierience as > Sysadmin, DevOp

Review Swap

2019-12-13 Thread Neil Horman
Anyone interested in a review swap? I've got the python-npyscreen package thats waiting for a review which I'd like to write a few applications using, but I'd like it integrated before I move to much farther forward: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1782532 Neil __

Fedora-Rawhide-20191213.n.0 compose check report

2019-12-13 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 3 of 43 required tests failed openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 14/165 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-20191212.

Re: HEADS-UP: poetry 1.0.0 now available in rawhide

2019-12-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 2:09 PM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:45 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > > Hi everybody, > > > > I've been tracking beta releases of poetry for a while now, and a few > > hours ago, 1.0.0 was finally released to GitHub [0] and pypi [1]. > > > > I've made

Re: eit.c:394:13: error: 'stime' was not declared in this scope; did you mean 'ctime'?

2019-12-13 Thread Martin Gansser
I tried to compile the vdr with the following patch, unfortunately it fails with the following error message. eit.c:25:18: error: missing binary operator before token "(" 25 | #if SHLIB_COMPAT (libc, GLIBC_2_0, GLIBC_2_31) | ^ make: *** Deleting file '.dependencies' --- a/eit.c.orig2019

Re: HEADS-UP: poetry 1.0.0 now available in rawhide

2019-12-13 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 7:45 AM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > I've been tracking beta releases of poetry for a while now, and a few > hours ago, 1.0.0 was finally released to GitHub [0] and pypi [1]. > > I've made packages of beta releases available on COPR [2] for some > time, and

HEADS-UP: poetry 1.0.0 now available in rawhide

2019-12-13 Thread Fabio Valentini
Hi everybody, I've been tracking beta releases of poetry for a while now, and a few hours ago, 1.0.0 was finally released to GitHub [0] and pypi [1]. I've made packages of beta releases available on COPR [2] for some time, and I am not aware of any issues with the 1.0.0 release (rather, it fixes

Self Introduction: Joerg Kastning

2019-12-13 Thread jkastning
Hello to everyone, My name is Joerg Kastning and I'm a Sysadmin who is currently working for the Bielefeld University. On my carreer counter I have round about 15 years of expierience as Sysadmin, DevOp and IT Project Manager. Using Linux since 2009 as a user and working with it as a professio

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread James Cassell
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 12. 12. 19 21:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_Optical_Media_Criterion > > > > = Drop Optical Media Release Criterion = > > > > == Summary == > > Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking

Re: Working fedora-active-user script?

2019-12-13 Thread Jun Aruga
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:17 PM Frank R Dana Jr. wrote: > > Hmmm. If there's a plan is to get it working again relatively soon, though, I > should probably withdraw my PR[1] to remove mention of it from the > Non-Responsive Maintainer Policy. (I figured, doesn't make sense to suggest a > tool

Removing %py[23]?_(install|build)_egg macros

2019-12-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, I'd like to remove the following macros from rawhide: %py_build_egg %py2_build_egg %py3_build_egg %py_install_egg %py2_install_egg %py3_install_egg Nothing in Fedora uses them. I would also remove this page: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Python_Eggs/

Re: Announcing new anitya integration and de-orphaning process

2019-12-13 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 11:43 AM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > `Monitoring` means: you get a bugzilla ticket > `Monitoring and scrach builds` means: you get the bugzilla ticket and an > attempt to do a scratch build for the new version > I was wondering how hard it would be to open a pull

Re: Working fedora-active-user script?

2019-12-13 Thread Frank R Dana Jr.
Hmmm. If there's a plan is to get it working again relatively soon, though, I should probably withdraw my PR[1] to remove mention of it from the Non-Responsive Maintainer Policy. (I figured, doesn't make sense to suggest a tool that can't actually be used...) [1]: https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-

New NeuroFedora public mailing list for discussions: neurofed...@lists.fp.o

2019-12-13 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hello everyone, Apologies for the cross-post. As the number of packages maintained by the NeuroFedora team has increased, so have the bugs, and notifications from Bugzilla. Since the notifications hamper discussion, we've decided to use a different mailing list for them. So: neurofed...@lists.fe

Re: stime() is no longer declared in time.h for rawhide

2019-12-13 Thread Frank R Dana Jr.
Yup. To be precise, quoting from the NEWS entry added for the change: * The obsolete function stime is no longer available to newly linked binaries and it has been removed from header. This function has been deprecated in favor of clock_settime. __

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12. 12. 19 21:37, Ben Cotton wrote: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Drop_Optical_Media_Criterion = Drop Optical Media Release Criterion = == Summary == Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking. This means we'd stop blocking on bugs found during the installation of Fedora

Re: Maintainer contact check for Chris Grau (cgrau)

2019-12-13 Thread Frank R Dana Jr.
Yeah, problem is I posted this using HyperKitty, which doesn't give me any way to do that. 😕 The bugzilla maintainer check auto-mailed Chris's registered address, though, so there's been an attempt at direct contact. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: stime() is no longer declared in time.h for rawhide

2019-12-13 Thread Martin Gansser
ok, that means stime () has been deprecated in glibc 2.31 and replaced with clock_settime (). ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://doc

Re: Maintainer contact check for Chris Grau (cgrau)

2019-12-13 Thread Felix Schwarz
Am 13.12.19 um 07:29 schrieb Frank R Dana Jr.: > As a follow-up to RHBZ 1779063 and in accordance with the non-responsive > maintainer policy[1], You should also cc Chris - maybe he is no longer actively following fedora-devel. Felix ___ devel maili

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 11:31 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2019-12-12 at 15:37 -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > == Scope == > > * Proposal owners: Change [[Releases/32/ReleaseBlocking]] to indicate > > we no longer block on optical media, change Validation Testing > > Matrices > > I don't

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 9:28 AM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel < devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On 12.12.2019 21:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > > Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking. This means > > we'd stop blocking on bugs found during the installation of Fedora > > from optical m

Re: Qt 5.14 update plans?

2019-12-13 Thread Jan Grulich
Hi, On pátek 13. prosince 2019 3:04:37 CET Richard Shaw wrote: > Looks like Qt just released 5.14, I believe this officially supports Python > 3.8? So it would probably be a good idea to update Rawhide sooner rather > than later. I just finished update to Qt 5.13.2. I'm not sure about Qt 5.14 at

Re: Fedora 32 System-Wide Change proposal: Drop Optical Media Release Criterion

2019-12-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 12.12.2019 21:37, Ben Cotton wrote: > Proposal to make all Fedora optical media non-blocking. This means > we'd stop blocking on bugs found during the installation of Fedora > from optical media (like CDs and DVDs). This doesn't mean that > installation from optical media would stop working, jus

Re: stime() is no longer declared in time.h for rawhide

2019-12-13 Thread Tom Hughes
On 13/12/2019 07:46, Martin Gansser wrote: was the stime () declaration moved in another header file ? What is the reason for this. Commit history explains: https://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=12cbde1da But summary seems to be, as was said when the same question was asked ye