Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2018-10-18 16:00 UTC)

  Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2018-10-18 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net.   Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2018-10-18 09:00 PDT  US/Pacific 2018-10-1

Re: What to do about sagemath

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:35 AM Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > I am afraid I did not help with sagemath for quite some time, and > would really like to > thank Jerry for keeping working on it. HI Paulo. It's good to hear from you! I hope you are well. I think I'm past the cython pr

resume= kernel cmdline arg by default on servers

For BZ1206936 [1] we started adding resume= kernel command line by default [2] in fedora installs. This is causing issues for ostree based systems, which I haven't fully investigated yet, but figured I would ask the question: Is resume=/path/to/swap something we really want on server installs lik

Re: raise fileno limit to make Steam Proton / Wine+esync work well in Fedora

On 10/16/18 6:25 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 7:34 PM Lennart Poettering > wrote: On Mo, 15.10.18 18:00, Kamil Paral (kpa...@redhat.com ) wrote: > On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 6:15 PM Lennart Poettering mailto:m

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 21:15, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM John Florian wrote: > > > > How does Discourse handle posts you've already read in a thread that's > > still active. With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it over and > > over and over again

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wednesday, 17 October 2018 at 17:52, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:38 AM Anderson, Charles R wrote: [...] > > It is > > also required to send semantically similar contents in both the > > text/plain and text/html parts, so that the text/plain part can act as > > a real human-

Fedora 29-20181017.n.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 6/131 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm) ID: 297388 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso modularity_tests URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/297388 ID: 297401 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso base_services_start URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/29

Fedora Rawhide-20181017.n.0 compose check report

No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 12/133 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20181015.n.1): ID: 297178 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_repository_nfs_variation URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/297178 ID: 297292

Re: Orphaning several packages.

Hi team! I can take: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/electric FAS: lbazan Cheers, El mié., 17 oct. 2018 a las 14:53, Alain Vigne () escribió: > I can not say I volunteer for ALL of Kiara's packages, but I can start > with some: > >1. gerbv >2. netgen >3. toped >4. gds2pov >

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:54:23PM -0400, John Florian wrote: > With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it > over and over and over again if you really want to see whats new now.  https://lwn.net/Comments/unread will show you comments posted afteryour last visit, with one post in grey to

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 19:38:20 +, "Anderson, Charles R" wrote: I use a perl script with these modules and some regexps to clean up the result: use HTML::Strip; use HTML::LinkExtor; use HTML::Entities qw/decode_entities/; use URI::Escape qw/uri_unescape/; Thanks, I'll take a look at usi

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 16:35 Anderson, Charles R wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 03:52:17PM -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > I'm not an email expert by any means. What I said was that it works > > perfectly fine for me. If people have an issue with it they should file a > > bug or enhancement req

Re: Orphaning several packages.

I can not say I volunteer for ALL of Kiara's packages, but I can start with some: 1. gerbv 2. netgen 3. toped 4. gds2pov This is part of FEL (Fedora Electronic Spin) "revival". Who else is interested? My FAS is : avigne BR, Alain On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 4:11 PM Kiara Navarro wrote:

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400, > "tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote: > >> ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite > >> them, both of which have issues. > >I've used elinks to do that

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 03:52:17PM -0300, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I'm not an email expert by any means. What I said was that it works > perfectly fine for me. If people have an issue with it they should file a > bug or enhancement request with the discourse project. That way the issue > could be ad

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400, "tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote: ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite them, both of which have issues. I've used elinks to do that in an email forum I wrote. It worked better than doing it with, say, Beautiful

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:55 PM John Florian wrote: > > How does Discourse handle posts you've already read in a thread that's still > active. With things like reddit or LWN, you get to read it over and over and > over again if you really want to see whats new now. Discourse handles this quite

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On 2018-10-17 13:41, Gerald B. Cox wrote: On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jason L Tibbitts III mailto:ti...@math.uh.edu>> wrote: > "GBC" == Gerald B Cox mailto:gb...@bzb.us>> writes: GBC> People keep saying it isn't sufficient or it doesn't work.  I've GBC> been using it f

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018, 15:31 Anderson, Charles R wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:02:58AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me. >

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

> ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite > them, both of which have issues. I've used elinks to do that in an email forum I wrote. It worked better than doing it with, say, Beautiful Soup. (Sorry, Bruno.)

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 11:02:58AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me. > > > > That's because gmail only shows the HTML part. > > > > Ah..

Re: Attention Gmail users, please turn off HTML mail

On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 15:40:19 +0200, Stop sending e-mail to public mailing lists using Gmail, then? Or are you going to pay for affected people's bandwith? Mailing lists have push delivery model, so it's not possible to filter-out only HTML e-mail before it's already downloaded. It is, but

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:48 AM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > > > The thing is, it doesn't matter. Discourse is *not* designed to >> support the types of discussions that do happen on these lists, nor is >> it designed to handle the load or the number of disparate >> conversations. > > > > I've exp

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:55 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me. > > That's because gmail only shows the HTML part. > Ah... so it's a client issue. Good to know.

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On 10/17/18 8:52 AM, Gerald B. Cox wrote: Again, I use gmail and things look perfectly fine for me. That's because gmail only shows the HTML part. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@list

Re: Fedora 29 Final Go/No-Go meeting

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 11:27 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > Dear all, > > The Go/No-Go meeting for the Fedora 29 Final release will be held on > Thursday, 2018-10-18 at 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1. For more > information, see: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting > > View the meeting on F

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

The thing is, it doesn't matter. Discourse is *not* designed to > support the types of discussions that do happen on these lists, nor is > it designed to handle the load or the number of disparate > conversations. I've experienced the switchover from mail lists to > Discourse before with OpenMan

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:31 AM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "GBC" == Gerald B Cox writes: > > GBC> People keep saying it isn't sufficient or it doesn't work. I've > GBC> been using it for 3 days and looks and acts like a normal mailing > GBC> list. > > And I've been using it since the

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 1:28 PM Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:15 AM Matthew Miller > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:00:32PM +, Anderson, Charles R wrote: >> > How do I start a thread on Discourse from email? We should start this >> > discussion over there so we

Re: What to do about sagemath

%buEm ter, 16 de out de 2018 às 15:05, Miro Hrončok escreveu: > > On 16.10.2018 19:17, Jerry James wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:51 AM Jerry James wrote: > >> Sadly, no. > > > > Here is the challenge, Python aficionados. The attached file, > > test.pyx, can be processed like this on Fedor

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

> "GBC" == Gerald B Cox writes: GBC> People keep saying it isn't sufficient or it doesn't work. I've GBC> been using it for 3 days and looks and acts like a normal mailing GBC> list. And I've been using it since the RT project switched a couple of years ago. And... it doesn't really look a

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:15 AM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:00:32PM +, Anderson, Charles R wrote: > > How do I start a thread on Discourse from email? We should start this > > discussion over there so we can experience it ourselves. > > So, yeah, that's a thing: we cur

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 01:14:32PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:00:32PM +, Anderson, Charles R wrote: > > How do I start a thread on Discourse from email? We should start this > > discussion over there so we can experience it ourselves. > > So, yeah, that's a thing

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

* Bruno Wolff, III: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:20:49 +0200, > Florian Weimer wrote: >> >>Email responses end up with hard line breaks in the web interface, which >>may not look as nice as web-submitted contributions. > > Did you test this for format=flowed? I would expect hard line breaks > if

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:00:32PM +, Anderson, Charles R wrote: > How do I start a thread on Discourse from email? We should start this > discussion over there so we can experience it ourselves. So, yeah, that's a thing: we currently have that feature turned off, because I'm worried about spa

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

> "GBC" == Gerald B Cox writes: >> People GBC> keep saying it isn't sufficient or it doesn't work. I've been GBC> using it for 3 days and looks and acts like a normal mailing list. GBC> ___ devel mailing list GBC> -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org T

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:49:49AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 9:40 AM Fulko Hew wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:28 PM Jason L Tibbitts III > > wrote: > > > > While I'm not a contributor to these lists, I do follow them > > and have so for probably 20 ye

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20181017.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20181015.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20181017.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 8 Dropped packages:2 Upgraded packages: 122 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 71.70 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 9:40 AM Fulko Hew wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:28 PM Jason L Tibbitts III > wrote: > > While I'm not a contributor to these lists, I do follow them > and have so for probably 20 years now. Like Jason, I have had > other projects move away from mailing lists, a

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 12:28 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > On project I used to follow quite a bit was the RT request tracker. > They moved to discourse some time ago. The end result was that email > became a mostly useless stream of context free messages and you > basically have to open a

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 11:06 AM Ben Rosser wrote: > 2) What's the migration strategy look like? Can users on the mailing > lists be automatically added to the relevant discourse lists? > > 3) Will there be a transition period where the old list addresses > continue to work? Can they be maintaine

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

> "GBC" == Gerald B Cox writes: GBC> Probably not fair to judge the system on the capabilities of your GBC> email client. It is entirely fair. Moving to this system will remove capabilities that I have now and will not provide adequate replacements for them. Since moving to this system will

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 10:20:49 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Email responses end up with hard line breaks in the web interface, which may not look as nice as web-submitted contributions. Did you test this for format=flowed? I would expect hard line breaks if that wasn't used.

Fedora 29 compose report: 20181017.n.0 changes

OLD: Fedora-29-20181016.n.0 NEW: Fedora-29-20181017.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 4 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 3 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of upgraded

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 7:38 AM Anderson, Charles R wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 07:23:28AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:07 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > > domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > > > I tried the mailing list mode to have it send me e-mail message

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 07:23:28AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:07 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < > domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > > I tried the mailing list mode to have it send me e-mail messages, > > but the messages are multipart/alternative (html+text) with th

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:07 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski < domi...@greysector.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, 16 October 2018 at 22:38, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > [...] > > And I agree, too much clicking. Reading e-mail with mutt on a terminal > > is so much faster. > > So, I tried th

Orphaning several packages.

Hi all, I am orphaning a list of packages that I am not able to longer maintain. Most of them are related to electronic applications. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qt-qsa https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/piklab https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/pikdev https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ov

Fedora 30 System-Wide Change: Deprecating /etc/sysconfig/nfs

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/nfs.conf == Summary == Deprecate /etc/sysconfig/nfs and only use /etc/nfs.conf to configure NFS daemons. == Owner == * Name: Steve Dickson * Email: ste...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == Since the beginning /etc/sysconfig/nfs has been used to configu

sinfo

Hi all, I am orphaning sinfo package (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/sinfo). For anyone who is interested, please adopt it. Best regards! -- *K.N* *GPG-KEY*: A81DB1D8 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

gnome-shell-extension-prefs:85491): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: 13:24:32.585: g_param_spec_unref: assertion 'G_IS_PARAM_SPEC

Hi, I'm already working with Fedora 29 in a VMWare and would like use the package gnome-shell-extension-netspeed I the package maintainer of gnome-shell-extension-netspeed [1] Can somebody have a look on this package what's going wrong here. I do not need to ask updstream, because I can not answ

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

On Tuesday, 16 October 2018 at 22:38, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: [...] > And I agree, too much clicking. Reading e-mail with mutt on a terminal > is so much faster. So, I tried the keyboard navigation mentioned elsewhere in the thread. Not easy to use at all and still have to use the br

My orphaned package list

Today I cleared out the packages I no longer wish to maintain. I have set orphan as 'main admin' for all of them. nuvolasdk diorite nuvolaruntime nuvola-app-8tracks nuvola-app-amazon-cloud-player nuvola-app-bandcamp nuvola-app-bbc-iplayer nuvola-app-deezer nuvola-app-google-play-music nuvola-app-j

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

* Björn Persson: > Ben Rosser wrote: >> 2) What's the migration strategy look like? Can users on the mailing >> lists be automatically added to the relevant discourse lists? > > Can the mailing lists be transferred from Mailman to Discourse and > continue to be the *same* mailing list, with the s

Re: Fedora should replace mailing lists with Discourse

Il giorno mar 16 ott 2018 alle 20:58, stan ha scritto: On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 08:51:33 -0700 "Gerald B. Cox" wrote: Yeah, based upon the trial and previous comments I knew it was being considered. The point of my thread was that many people probably haven't taken the time to checkout the

Re: how to detect Atomic Rawhide?

On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:03:56 PM CEST Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Or should I do quick'n'dirty "if 'rawhide' in > os-release['REDHAT_BUGZILLA_PRODUCT_VERSION']" in our copr plugin? Or REDHAT_SUPPORT_PRODUCT_VERSION. I'd simply read one of those variables, or submit PR against 'fedora-release'