Schedule for Wednesday's FPC Meeting (2017-09-06 17:00 UTC)

2017-09-05 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Wednesday at 2017-09-06 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-2 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Wednesday = 2017-09-06 10:00 PDT US/Pacific 2017-09-06

Re: Urgent attention required; ImageMagick update breakage

2017-09-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 21:30 -0700, Moez Roy wrote: > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 20:07 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > > That is the point, how many package fail to build with ImageMagick7 ? > > > we "just" need change requires on FTB

Re: Urgent attention required; ImageMagick update breakage

2017-09-05 Thread Moez Roy
On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 20:07 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > That is the point, how many package fail to build with ImageMagick7 ? > > we "just" need change requires on FTBFS packages (with ImageMagick7) > > No it isn't the point. More th

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

2017-09-05 Thread Rex Dieter
Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 5 September 2017 at 15:02, Kalev Lember wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> It's GNOME 3.25.92 release this week, which is going to be >> quicklynecessary chaith all followed by final 3.26.0 next week. > > It would be good to start remove on this cycle execution of all > glib-comp

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 23:43, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:27 AM, James Hogarth > wrote: > > I do suggest popping a comment in the spec at the appropriate point > > explaining why for anyone that runs into it and is confused > > I have a comm

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 1:27 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > I do suggest popping a comment in the spec at the appropriate point > explaining why for anyone that runs into it and is confused I have a comment in the spec file in copr, perhaps I should also add a link to the discussion upstream. By the

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:25 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 5 September 2017 at 22:40, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Chris Murphy >> wrote: >> >> > FWIW, you can just download the F27 kernel, kernel-core, >> > kernel-modules (optionally extras), and 'sudo dnf instal

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 6:25 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 5 September 2017 at 22:40, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Chris Murphy >> wrote: >> >> > FWIW, you can just download the F27 kernel, kernel-core, >> > kernel-modules (optionally extras), and 'sudo dnf instal

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 22:17, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you James, this did feel like the proper course of action. > ___ > > No worries ... special cases do come up and it's important to be responsive to upstream in

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 22:40, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Chris Murphy > wrote: > > > FWIW, you can just download the F27 kernel, kernel-core, > > kernel-modules (optionally extras), and 'sudo dnf install *rpm' in > > that same download directory and it will install it

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > FWIW, you can just download the F27 kernel, kernel-core, > kernel-modules (optionally extras), and 'sudo dnf install *rpm' in > that same download directory and it will install it without complaint. > I routinely run Fedora built n+1 (typicall

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 3:13 PM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 5 September 2017 at 18:26, Laura Abbott wrote: >> >> On 09/05/2017 09:59 AM, James Hogarth wrote: >> > >> > >> > On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" > > > wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Kernel 4.13

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Thank you James, this did feel like the proper course of action. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 18:26, Laura Abbott wrote: > On 09/05/2017 09:59 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > > > On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" labb...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been > > built for rawhide an

Re: GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

2017-09-05 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 5 September 2017 at 15:02, Kalev Lember wrote: > Hi all, > > It's GNOME 3.25.92 release this week, which is going to be quicklynecessary > chaith all > followed by final 3.26.0 next week. It would be good to start remove on this cycle execution of all glib-compile-schemas, gtk-update-icon-cac

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
On 05.09.2017 18:59, James Hogarth wrote: > On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" > wrote: > > Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been > built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be > following the same upgrade proced

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Laura Abbott
On 09/05/2017 09:59 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" > wrote: > > Hi, > > Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been > built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be > following

Re: Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 Sep 2017 5:42 pm, "Laura Abbott" wrote: Hi, Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be following the same upgrade procedure as in the past. F25 and F26 will get rebased to 4.13 after a few stable releases, t

Kernel 4.13 rebase plans

2017-09-05 Thread Laura Abbott
Hi, Kernel 4.13 was released this past weekend. This kernel has been built for rawhide and is building for F27 as well. We will be following the same upgrade procedure as in the past. F25 and F26 will get rebased to 4.13 after a few stable releases, typically 4.13.2 or 4.11.3 depending on how stab

Modularity Working Group IRC Meeting Minutes (2017-09-05)

2017-09-05 Thread Nils Philippsen
= #fedora-meeting-3: Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (once every two weeks) = Meeting started by nils at 14:01:09 UTC. Minutes:

Re: CI projects in Copr

2017-09-05 Thread Petr Stodulka
On 4.9.2017 19:27, Michal Novotny wrote: > I might contact you for more information, but alright, if you feel the custom > script is more convenient, > then I am all for it. But first, I would like to make a proposal of each > option (with screenshots and > just complete feature request descrip

F28 Self Contained Change: MinGW MiniDebugInfo

2017-09-05 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: MinGW MiniDebugInfo = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MingwMiniDebugInfo Change owner(s): * Sandro Mani Analogously to the MiniDebugInfo change [1] for native packages, install minimal debuginfos by default also for MinGW packages. == Detailed Descriptio

Fedora 27 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline & Beta Freeze

2017-09-05 Thread Jan Kurik
Today, on 2017-Sep-05, we reach two important milestones of the Fedora 27 release [1]: == Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline [2] == * New accepted changes must be code complete, meaning all the code required to enable a new Change is finished. * The level of code completeness is reflec

GNOME 3.25.92 megaupdate

2017-09-05 Thread Kalev Lember
Hi all, It's GNOME 3.25.92 release this week, which is going to be quickly followed by final 3.26.0 next week. To help prepare the updates, we have a f27-gnome side tag / build target for Fedora 27 as usual. If you are helping with the builds, please use 'fedpkg build --target f27-gnome' for F27,

Re: Providing ABI/API assurances for the base runtime in Fedora.

2017-09-05 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 09/04/2017 07:31 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2017-09-01, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> I've written up some of the key ideas here: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BaseRuntimeInterface >> >> Any feedback would be appreciated, including bikeshed on component >> name prefix for frozen interface pakca

Re: Providing ABI/API assurances for the base runtime in Fedora.

2017-09-05 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 09/01/2017 10:00 AM, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > On Fri, 2017-09-01 at 09:28 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> Fedora Developers, > >> I am working on a way to provide concrete ABI/API assurances for >> parts of the base runtime. > Note that Base Runtime is F26-only thing and in F27 it is called Host

Re: F26 and kernel-4.13

2017-09-05 Thread Sérgio Basto
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jforbes/kernel-stabilization/builds/ Sometimes appears here before go to updates-testing On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 11:39 +0200, Joachim Backes wrote: > Hi guys, > > my question: is it planned to make and release kernel-4.13 for F26? > I  > saw that it has b

Re: mandb takes forever to run during package updates

2017-09-05 Thread Yanko Kaneti
On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I've noticed for a while that updates get "stuck" in the scriptlets > phase. For example I've got an update running now which has taken > 3+ minutes of wallclock time (on a 16 core Xeon) in the scriptlets. > Looking in ‘top’ I can see:

mandb takes forever to run during package updates

2017-09-05 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I've noticed for a while that updates get "stuck" in the scriptlets phase. For example I've got an update running now which has taken 3+ minutes of wallclock time (on a 16 core Xeon) in the scriptlets. Looking in ‘top’ I can see: 29490 root 20 0 156620 28352 2684 S 25.7 0.0 1:41.

Re: Splitting AppStream data into Workstation/Server

2017-09-05 Thread Richard Hughes
On 5 September 2017 at 07:37, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Just another idea reading this ... could we move the AppStream data into > subpackage? First, that would be another ~2000 subpackages clogging up the mirrors and metadata -- second it's really only a rel-eng artifact. Either we pass the artifact

Re: Better to bundle a library or package different version than upstream?

2017-09-05 Thread James Hogarth
On 5 September 2017 at 00:27, Alexander Ploumistos < alex.ploumis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > About ten days ago I asked a question on this list, but I guess on one > hand it was too specific, while on the other it coincided with people > travelling to Flock or being on vacation. As I rea

Re: Nonresponsive maintainer: attempting to contact kanarip

2017-09-05 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 22.8.2017 v 11:22 James Hogarth napsal(a): > > > On 27 June 2017 at 12:40, Vít Ondruch > wrote: > > > > Dne 27.6.2017 v 10:41 Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems) napsal(a): > > On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 11:39 +0100, James Hogarth wrote: > >> Hi, > >> >

Re: Splitting AppStream data into Workstation/Server

2017-09-05 Thread Igor Gnatenko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 2017-09-05 at 08:37 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 5.9.2017 v 08:31 Nicolas Chauvet napsal(a): > > 2017-09-04 19:20 GMT+02:00 Richard Hughes : > > > On 4 September 2017 at 17:56, Neal Gompa > > > wrote: > > > > It sounds like it would ma