Re: Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-03-31)

2017-03-30 Thread Jan Kurik
Since today morning there is also one Self Contained Change for the F27 release ready for FESCo review: https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1690#comment-434408 . Regards, Jan On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the > FESCo me

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

2017-03-30 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 30 March 2017 at 21:00, Mihkel Vain wrote: > JFYI. I wrote an e-mail to anttix asking to grant admin right to Tomasz. > We'll see if he responds. > I was in the middle of writing email to anttix and good that I've red this email :) Thank you very much. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn:

Fedora Rawhide-20170330.n.0 compose check report

2017-03-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Kde live x86_64 Xfce raw-xz armhfp Kde live i386 Failed openQA tests: 18/96 (x86_64), 5/17 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20170329.n.0): ID: 73522 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedorap

Fedora 26-20170330.n.0 compose check report

2017-03-30 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Server dvd i386 Server boot i386 Failed openQA tests: 9/108 (x86_64), 1/2 (i386), 1/2 (arm) New failures (same test did not fail in 26-20170329.n.0): ID: 73620 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_realmd_join_kickstart URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/736

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2017-03-31)

2017-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 16:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2017-03-31 16:00 UTC' Links to all issues below ca

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 30 March 2017 at 20:01, Matthew Miller wrote: > You don't know whether the person you are replying to > is "guessing" or whether they actually have experience and expertise > which just happens to be different from yours. In fact, in this case, I > will guarantee you that it's absolutely true.

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

2017-03-30 Thread Mihkel Vain
JFYI. I wrote an e-mail to anttix asking to grant admin right to Tomasz. We'll see if he responds. On N, märts 30, 2017 at 10:38 , Mihkel Vain wrote: Anttix, the initial maintainer of this package, has responded to my e-mail once. Have you contacted him directly? Also. kloczek - I guess this

Re: a rawhide build not tagged into f27-build

2017-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 03/30/2017 06:44 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Dne 30.3.2017 v 14:04 David Tardon napsal(a): >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 03:51:48PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: My build of updated poppler in Rawhide was not tagged into f27-build automatically, as it used to be in the past: >

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

2017-03-30 Thread Mihkel Vain
Anttix, the initial maintainer of this package, has responded to my e-mail once. Have you contacted him directly? Also. kloczek - I guess this is you? But this leads to nothing https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/packager/kloczek/ Anyway. I can try again to contact anttix, but I think he ca

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 30 March 2017 at 14:48, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > > On 30 March 2017 at 17:00, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> >> 1) They are going to have 'non-upstream' patches for all their >> software.. which is just one more thing to keep up with every update. >> >> 2) Most of this software is not stuff the

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:48:34PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > I'm fully aware that proposing such widely spreading change I'm entering on > some conflict/battle ground. > I know that all long and/or complicated conflicts are possible to finish > using only using two methods: by giving or taking

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 30 March 2017 at 17:00, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > 1) They are going to have 'non-upstream' patches for all their > software.. which is just one more thing to keep up with every update. > 2) Most of this software is not stuff they care about. It is branches > on a tree for the only reason t

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

2017-03-30 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:11 PM, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > No one told me what needs to be done here or on IRC. You will need to start the non-responsive package maintainer process: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers _

Re: Any voluteers for maintaining xml-security-c?

2017-03-30 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
I'm asking again for help here. More than month ago was sent email with call for volunteers to maintain xml-security-c package. No one told me what needs to be done here or on IRC. It is really so discouraging .. kloczek -- Tomasz Kłoczko | LinkedIn: *http://lnkd.in/FXPWxH

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Tomasz Kłoczko
On 30 March 2017 at 12:00, Michael Schwendt wrote: > True, and I haven't claimed the opposite. You need to slow down, IMO, > as it seems you've misunderstood me completely. It's really just that > whereas some packagers have removed /usr/bin/env from their packages, > others have refused to do th

Fedora 26 Alpha RC1.7 has been declared as GOLD and the status is GO

2017-03-30 Thread Jan Kurik
On the third round of Fedora 26 Alpha Go/No-Go Meeting, has just been Fedora 26 Alpha RC1.7 declared as GOLD. GA of this release is planed on Tuesday 2017-April-04. Meeting details can be seen here: Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2017-03-30/f26-alpha-go-no-go-meeting-

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
5. If Fedora is a language for developers how am I supposed to develop for other systems? And if I do this development why do I then have to carry this patch for this one OS when if I did the development on Ubuntu and put it in Universe I don't? On 30 March 2017 at 12:10, Matthew Miller wrote: >

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 12:00:40PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > I think the thing that the problems packagers are looking at is the > following: > > 1) They are going to have 'non-upstream' patches for all their > software.. which is just one more thing to keep up with every update. > 2) M

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 30 March 2017 at 11:44, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 08:41:56AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> > These system executables are expecting to use the system python, and thus >> > should use: #!/usr/bin/python." >> I don't seem to get the above argument. Why do they not consider

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 08:41:56AM -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > These system executables are expecting to use the system python, and thus > > should use: #!/usr/bin/python." > I don't seem to get the above argument. Why do they not consider a > design where the system executables are expecting t

Re: Is Pagure slow for you too?

2017-03-30 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 09:43:33AM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: >> Kevin Fenzi píše v St 29. 03. 2017 v 13:01 -0600: >> > On 03/27/2017 11:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > > >> > > It never used to be like that, it's probably

Re: Is Pagure slow for you too?

2017-03-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 09:43:33AM +0200, Jiri Eischmann wrote: > Kevin Fenzi píše v St 29. 03. 2017 v 13:01 -0600: > > On 03/27/2017 11:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > It never used to be like that, it's probably just load as more and > > > more > > > stuff is moved to it. > > > > yeah

Re: a rawhide build not tagged into f27-build

2017-03-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.3.2017 v 14:04 David Tardon napsal(a): > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 03:51:48PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >>> My build of updated poppler in Rawhide was not tagged into f27-build >>> automatically, as it used to be in the past: >>> >>> $ koji wait-repo --build=`fedpkg verrel` f27-bu

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On 29 March 2017 at 14:26, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > --- > Fedora ships numerous executables written in Python. Many of them contain > the shebang line: #!/usr/bin/env python > > However, this makes it difficult to install alternative versions of Python > on the system. If a user wishes e.g. to insta

Re: a rawhide build not tagged into f27-build

2017-03-30 Thread David Tardon
Hi, On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 03:51:48PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > My build of updated poppler in Rawhide was not tagged into f27-build > > automatically, as it used to be in the past: > > > > $ koji wait-repo --build=`fedpkg verrel` f27-build > > Warning: nvr poppler-0.53.0-1.fc27 is not cur

Re: Mass issue: /usr/bin/env dependency

2017-03-30 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 29 Mar 2017 19:26:31 +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 29 March 2017 at 17:04, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > It has been discussed several times, has met resistance and lead to > > actions like > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemPythonExecutablesUseSyst > > emPython > > b

Re: Is Pagure slow for you too?

2017-03-30 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Kevin Fenzi píše v St 29. 03. 2017 v 13:01 -0600: > On 03/27/2017 11:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > It never used to be like that, it's probably just load as more and > > more > > stuff is moved to it. > > yeah. Note that I mentioned upthread that we had been working on > performance impro