On 08/21/2015 08:34 AM, Till Hofmann wrote:
> Also, it seems like I can revoke other people's updates. At least I
> could press the 'Revoke' button and I received a confirmation
> notification. Also, instead of the Revoke button, there is now a "Push
> to Testing" and a "Push to Stable" button. B
- Original Message -
> From: "Orion Poplawski"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2015 1:58:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets
>
> On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> >
> > I was just wat
Why can I push to testing for updates submitted by other people, and
where the update is already stable? [1]
Also, it seems like I can revoke other people's updates. At least I
could press the 'Revoke' button and I received a confirmation
notification. Also, instead of the Revoke button, there is n
On 08/20/2015 07:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Well, I don't know if there was a Big Philosophical Discussion, but in
practice all kinds of Fedora-ish stuff has its upstream in github these
days, so yes, clearly times have changed.
That's not the point. I am talking about separating Fedora
we
"This update has reached 3 days in testing and can be pushed to stable
now if the maintainer wishes"
2 days ago, 2015-08-18 07:00:53
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/libdom-0.1.2-1.fc23
Still can't push.
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On 08/20/2015 06:24 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/20/2015 06:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
On 8/20/15, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Thanks for your patience as we roll out this new bodhi version.
"This update has reached 3 days in testing and can be pushed to stable
now if the maintainer wishes"
"
On 08/20/2015 07:51 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:33:37 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is inacceptable,
This applies to github, sourceforge, farcebook, nitter, goggle, or
else
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Theres a bunch of tools out there to export issues from github
They can turn this off at any moment, leaving you with no way to get your
data out.
>> > and exposes our code to a much wider (*1000 at least) group of
>> > developers,
>>
>> If a developer wants to contribute t
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 00:39:20 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Paul W. Frields wrote:
> > This is correct. The infra team discussed this some time ago and
> > since Github does nothing to lock up the resources we care about,
>
> So you'd only see lock-in to proprietary infrastructure as a problem
> i
On Friday, August 21, 2015, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> vs.
> 1'. clone the upstream repository,
> 2'. commit your change(s) to the clone,
> 3'. export your patch(es) with git format-patch,
> 4'. open an issue through a web interface,
> 5'. attach the patch(es) to the issue
> (except of course on GitH
On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors how hard
> is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora
> Repository stalled [1]; discussion that we actually do not know how many
> active sponsors we have.
...
>
> [1]
> https://ei
Paul W. Frields wrote:
> This is correct. The infra team discussed this some time ago and
> since Github does nothing to lock up the resources we care about,
So you'd only see lock-in to proprietary infrastructure as a problem if they
were actively locking things up?
Even if now, everything can
I wrote:
> Unfortunately, there are several things that have become worse:
PS: Some more:
* The nice colored and unique icons were replaced with text-only with a
color scheme that is the same for all fields (e.g., orange for both
"testing" and "bugfix"), or even black&white text (in the list o
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 02:40:10PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:24:18 +0200
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
> > But this is a project where Fedora *is* upstream!
>
> I assume you mean "bodhi" by "this".
>
> The primary bodhi developers are heavily involved in Fedora, but are
> al
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:40:40AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 12:33 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > >
> > > To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is
> > > inacceptable,
> > >
> > > This applies to gi
On 08/20/2015 10:08 AM, Dave Love wrote:
> Orion Poplawski writes:
>
>> On 08/19/2015 06:20 AM, Dave Love wrote:
>>> Orion Poplawski writes:
>>>
On 08/18/2015 09:21 AM, Dave Love wrote:
> I'm trying to build a new package. It's failing on epel-7-ppc64le
> (only) with two sorts of e
On 08/17/2015 12:51 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Just a quick heads up that it's GNOME 3.17.90 release this week and we
> have a f23-gnome side tag for builds - please use 'fedpkg build --target
> f23-gnome' if you are helping with builds.
>
> I'll take care of submitting them all in a s
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 22:24:18 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> But this is a project where Fedora *is* upstream!
I assume you mean "bodhi" by "this".
The primary bodhi developers are heavily involved in Fedora, but are
also involved in other communities. When is a project "Fedora" ?
There are other
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 09:37:31PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > We have a bug report [1] that 'dnf fedup download' fails on aarch64.
> > The error is:
> > Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'updates' from
> > 'ht
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 9:19 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> We have a bug report [1] that 'dnf fedup download' fails on aarch64.
> The error is:
> Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'updates' from
> 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f23&arch=aarc
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 20:19:37 +
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> We have a bug report [1] that 'dnf fedup download' fails on aarch64.
> The error is:
> Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'updates' from
> 'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f23&arch=aa
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> IMHO, I think projects should be free to choose whatever tools they
> wish to build their project. You are of course free to choose to not
> use that application/project based on that or other factors.
>
> Closed source applications are not something we ever want to run in
> F
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 11:19:10AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > Greetings.
> >
> > After a longer than expected outage window, I'm happy to report that
> > bodhi2 is now live in production at
> >
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org
We have a bug report [1] that 'dnf fedup download' fails on aarch64.
The error is:
Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'updates' from
'https://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/metalink?repo=updates-released-f23&arch=aarch64':
Cannot prepare internal mirrorlist: file "repomd.xml" was not found in
==
#fedora-meeting-2: Env and Stacks (2015-08-20)
==
Meeting started by hhorak at 17:00:55 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2015-08-20/env-and-stacks.2015-
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 12:33:37 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >
> > To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is inacceptable,
> >
> > This applies to github, sourceforge, farcebook, nitter, goggle, or
> > else - period.
>
> The last ti
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 12:33 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >
> > To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is
> > inacceptable,
> >
> > This applies to github, sourceforge, farcebook, nitter, goggle, or
> > else - period.
>
> The l
On 19 August 2015 at 22:24, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 06:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
>>
>> On 8/20/15, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for your patience as we roll out this new bodhi version.
>>
>>
>> "This update has reached 3 days in testing and can be pushed to stable
>> now i
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 12:33 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> >
> > To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is
> > inacceptable,
> >
> > This applies to github, sourceforge, farcebook, nitter, goggle, or
> > else - period.
>
> The l
On 08/20/2015 12:02 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
To me any non fedora/redhat supplied account system is inacceptable,
This applies to github, sourceforge, farcebook, nitter, goggle, or else -
period.
The last time a non-Fedora hosted / closed source service was suggested it was shot
down.
ht
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 10:12 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:48:27 -0700
> Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 09:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >
> > > * Hook up openqa to run on rawhide every night and give us data
> > > on
> > > how
> > > often things are
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> After a longer than expected outage window, I'm happy to report that
> bodhi2 is now live in production at
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
> or
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
I see in the thread that people s
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:10:29 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > If I log in, which is very slow and takes some time, I see two
> > "filters" with lots of rules. I'd like to understand these defaults.
>
> Right, you should see "irc" and "email" on the first screen.
>
> These are the rules for each ty
On 08/20/2015 06:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:55:01 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I share this view. I refuse to create a github account and do not
consider using any external account resources for Fedora to be
acceptable.
While I do have a GitHub accou
On 08/20/2015 06:05 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:02:44AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Are things like redhat bugzilla, koji and fedocal also slow?
Bugzilla is always slow, it's not a good reference ;-)
Definitely. But bodhi2 seemed worse :-)
What might have interfered
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 00:48:27 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 09:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > * Hook up openqa to run on rawhide every night and give us data on
> > how
> > often things are broken on the install path. This could be a
> > seperate
> > report, or we
On Wed, 19 Aug 2015 13:35:05 -0400
Neal Gompa wrote:
> One thing I would like to see is that Fedora's development code could
> reach a state where something like openSUSE's Tumbleweed would be
> possible. If we could take daily/weekly/biweekly snapshots of the
> repositories for people to use as
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 13:15:41 +0200
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 05:05:10 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>
> > > I just discovered requests in pkgdb, which I haven't been notified
> > > about. I'm also not sure that I still receive dist git commit
> > > notifications as usual.
Orion Poplawski writes:
> On 08/19/2015 06:20 AM, Dave Love wrote:
>> Orion Poplawski writes:
>>
>>> On 08/18/2015 09:21 AM, Dave Love wrote:
I'm trying to build a new package. It's failing on epel-7-ppc64le
(only) with two sorts of errors in %check which appear to be problems
w
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:02:44AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> Are things like redhat bugzilla, koji and fedocal also slow?
Bugzilla is always slow, it's not a good reference ;-)
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On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 06:24:57 +0200
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 06:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
> > On 8/20/15, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> Thanks for your patience as we roll out this new bodhi version.
> >
> > "This update has reached 3 days in testing and can be pushed to
> > stable no
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:55:01 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > I share this view. I refuse to create a github account and do not
> > consider using any external account resources for Fedora to be
> > acceptable.
>
> While I do have a GitHub account (no way for me to eschew it
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> I share this view. I refuse to create a github account and do not
> consider using any external account resources for Fedora to be acceptable.
While I do have a GitHub account (no way for me to eschew it, sadly), I also
do not understand why (and am sad that) Bodhi develop
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> After a longer than expected outage window, I'm happy to report that
> bodhi2 is now live in production at
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates
> or
> https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/
Unfortunately, there are several things that have become worse:
* The front page is m
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 14:04 +0100, Jonathan Wakely wrote:
> On 20/08/15 08:40 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote:
> > I won't say its impossible but its -very- hard to remove the bad
> > connotations and bad history from a name without changing the name
> > of the
> > thing itself. Someone just the other
Jonathan Wakely (jwak...@redhat.com) said:
> "Rawhide" already *perfectly* implies rolling to me.
>
> Rollin' rollin' rollin' though the streams are swollen.
Nice to see tht some things survive, some 17 years on
https://lwn.net/1998/0820/rawhide.html
Bill
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 08/20/2015 03:13 PM, Eric Griffith wrote:
>>
>> If you have a bad experience that experience stays
>> with you. Maybe you can get over it, maybe you can't. But a name does
>> have history.
>
>
> I guess, you guys are not aware that other
On 08/20/2015 03:13 PM, Eric Griffith wrote:
If you have a bad experience that experience stays
with you. Maybe you can get over it, maybe you can't. But a name does
have history.
I guess, you guys are not aware that other names related to
RH/CentOS/Fedora also have "ambivalent" and "polarizin
On 08/20/2015 03:42 PM, Zach Villers wrote:
Le Mer 19 août 2015 18:22, Rex Dieter a écrit :
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
>> * Matt opened a thread on the marketing list about renaming rawhide. It
>> sounds like most people would prefer us to make the changes first,
>> then and only then look at re
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 14:58 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Good reputation must be earned, magical tricks do not work (even
> lavishly
> funded renaming marketing campaigns have little effect, the best one
> can
> do is to acquire a brand with lots of goodwill and try to subsume
> another
> in it)
On Ter, 2015-08-18 at 10:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 10:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 12:36 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/pyorbit.git/plain/dead.package
> > >
> > > > last user has been retired, pac
Le Mer 19 août 2015 18:22, Rex Dieter a écrit :
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
>> * Matt opened a thread on the marketing list about renaming rawhide. It
>> sounds like most people would prefer us to make the changes first,
>> then and only then look at renaming.
>
> s/renaming/rebranding/
>
> I personally
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 11:00 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote:
> Looks like you need to hit "enter" after typing/pasting in the
> package NVR into the "Candidate Builds" field, which was not at all
> obvious to me.
Hi,
thanks for the hint. That made it work, the package name is repeated
below th
On Aug 20, 2015 9:04 AM, "Jonathan Wakely" wrote:
>
> On 20/08/15 08:40 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote:
>>
>> I won't say its impossible but its -very- hard to remove the bad
>> connotations and bad history from a name without changing the name of the
>> thing itself. Someone just the other day on the
On 20/08/15 08:40 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote:
I won't say its impossible but its -very- hard to remove the bad
connotations and bad history from a name without changing the name of the
thing itself. Someone just the other day on the Phoronix forums was saying
how they still don't trust RPMs becau
Le Mer 19 août 2015 18:22, Rex Dieter a écrit :
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
>> * Matt opened a thread on the marketing list about renaming rawhide. It
>> sounds like most people would prefer us to make the changes first,
>> then and only then look at renaming.
>
> s/renaming/rebranding/
>
> I personall
On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-08-18 at 10:21 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Tue, 2015-07-21 at 12:36 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
>> > http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/pyorbit.git/plain/dead.package
>> >
>> > > last user has been retired, package E
I won't say its impossible but its -very- hard to remove the bad
connotations and bad history from a name without changing the name of the
thing itself. Someone just the other day on the Phoronix forums was saying
how they still don't trust RPMs because of RPM Hell all those years back.
The proble
On 19/08/15 13:18 -0400, Eric Griffith wrote:
Rawhide rebrand:
Something akin to openSUSE's "Tumbleweed" name.
Maybe reuse the "Fedora.Next" name? Something that implies its rolling
release / pre-release. Fedora Testing? For some reason "Fedora Tophat" just
popped into my head as a pun on hats
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:50:55 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors
> how hard is to get sponsored;
Yes, it's incredibly easy for Red Hat employees to get sponsored via
the "Become a co-maintainer" process:
https://fedoraproject.org/w
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On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 05:05:10 +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > I just discovered requests in pkgdb, which I haven't been notified
> > about. I'm also not sure that I still receive dist git commit
> > notifications as usual.
> >
> > Where would I learn about any infrastructure changes related t
On 20 August 2015 at 18:50, Honza Horak wrote:
> I've missed Langdon's points for today's meeting, proposed to ML. Since they
> seem to me more important, let me adjust the topic list, while prioritizing
> the Langdon's items:
3 am means this is my "Hell, no" week for the E&S meeting time, but
fo
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On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 10:50 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > That said, I considering your ongoing campaign to be harmful to
> > Fedora.
>
> I'm really sad to hear this.
>
> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors
> how hard is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora
>
On 08/20/2015 12:00 PM, Paul Howarth wrote:
On 20/08/15 10:28, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/20/2015 09:51 AM, Milan Crha wrote:
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
There will likely be oddities and bugs. Please file them in github so
we can prioritize them and get them fixed u
On 20/08/15 10:28, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/20/2015 09:51 AM, Milan Crha wrote:
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
There will likely be oddities and bugs. Please file them in github so
we can prioritize them and get them fixed up.
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/iss
On 08/20/2015 09:51 AM, Milan Crha wrote:
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
There will likely be oddities and bugs. Please file them in github so
we can prioritize them and get them fixed up.
https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues
Hi,
I do not have a github a
Dne 20.8.2015 v 08:57 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
> 5. You cannot push around sponsors.
> The ability to sponsor packagers is a privilege and not a duty. It's not
> going to fly to make a volunteer privilege a
> burdon.
I repeated several times in this thread that it is perfectly fine when there is
I've missed Langdon's points for today's meeting, proposed to ML. Since
they seem to me more important, let me adjust the topic list, while
prioritizing the Langdon's items:
Topics:
* how to invite the conversation to e&s
* what the output of e&s would be
* how to ensure that e&s is the place
WG meeting will be at 17:00 UTC (13:00 EST, 19:00 Brno, 13:00 Boston,
2:00+1d Tokyo, 3:00+1d Brisbane) in #fedora-meeting-2 on Freenode.
= Topics =
* Rings and modules
- how/where to track and document this as real project (Taiga.io?)
- rings definition by description?
- purpose of that
On 08/20/2015 09:23 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 20.08.2015 um 06:01 schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
On 08/20/2015 01:07 AM, Eric Griffith wrote:
Personally, if it weren't for the confusion, I think Fedora Next would
be the perfect name for this.
May-be, you guys are too young to know, but to me Fedo
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 21:45 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> There will likely be oddities and bugs. Please file them in github so
> we can prioritize them and get them fixed up.
>
> https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/issues
Hi,
I do not have a github account, and I'm currently not going t
On Wed, 2015-08-19 at 09:18 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> * Hook up openqa to run on rawhide every night and give us data on
> how
> often things are broken on the install path. This could be a
> seperate
> report, or we could hook it up to the rawhide compose.
OH HEY LOOK:
https://lists.fe
Am 20.08.2015 um 06:01 schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
On 08/20/2015 01:07 AM, Eric Griffith wrote:
Personally, if it weren't for the confusion, I think Fedora Next would
be the perfect name for this.
May-be, you guys are too young to know, but to me Fedora Next, would be
a Fedora distribution addres
With the upgrade to bodhi2, the method we were using to notify
packagers of check failures (bodhi comments) is not working at the
moment due to some of the api changes which came with the upgrade.
We're working to restore the comments and eventually transition over to
fedmsg emission but in the me
On 08/18/2015 12:04 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
BTW this report reveals that we have just 39 active sponsors (during past year).
If you are sponsors, please consider sponsoring somebody from the queue:
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html
You should understand that sp
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