Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Jon
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel > -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) > Nod, thanks for that! > > This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the us

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Neal Gompa
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > From my perspective, there are three ways that we could choose to go: > > 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages > are included on the install media (and therefore also installed > together onto the targ

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 10 July 2015 at 16:44, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:25:05 -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1005518 > > Quote: "I have not yet found a sponsor. I will attempt to do so." > > Nothing since. Just a reviewer, who has quickly pointed at t

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 15:25:05 -0400, Ben Rosser wrote: > Speaking as someone who relatively recently went through the process though > (and whose package(s) sat in the review tracker for two years): motivation > is hard to come by when it looks like you're not going to get sponsored > because (you

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:05:24AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages >> are included on the install media (and therefore also installed >> together onto the target syste

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 08:05:24AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > 1) Follow the default DNF behavior: Requires: and Recommends: packages > are included on the install media (and therefore also installed > together onto the target system) Can this have the inverse of the case in #3 (where Recomm

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Jul 2015, at 15:40, Björn Persson wrote: Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Fri, 2015-07-03 at 11:21 -0400, Mike Pinkerton wrote: Isn't the whole point to eliminate the need for third party certificate authorities entirely? Well I think you could choose to do that, or you could choose to use

Re: Self Introduction: Jonny Heggheim

2015-07-10 Thread Jonny Heggheim
Hi Jonathan! On Wed, 2015-07-08 at 22:28 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > You might consider contacting the Java special interest group: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Java > > They have a mailing list and IRC channel, so you might find someone > to review your packages there. Thank

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > I'm confused on one point: why would the user ever want to turn off > DNSSEC validation (except to get past a for captive portal)? It sounds > like you have no shortage of safeguards in place to make sure this > always works: for it to break the user would have to be on a

Re: dnssec-trigger + GNOME + NetworkManager integration

2015-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2015-07-03 at 11:21 -0400, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > > Isn't the whole point to eliminate the need for third party > > certificate authorities entirely? > > Well I think you could choose to do that, or you could choose to use > it as an additional security measur

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Ben Rosser
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:31:52 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Today I happened to look at this page: > > > > http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html > > > > from which I can see we have potentially

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 13:06 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > On Friday, July 10, 2015 08:05:24 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the > > rel > > -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial > > message) > > > > This past

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 9 July 2015 at 13:24, Richard Fontana wrote: > > What distros or upstream projects are actually using the SPDX format? > > AppStream uses it[1], and also tries to map the Fedora licences to > SPDX forms[2], with a limited amount of su

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Friday, July 10, 2015 08:05:24 AM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel > -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) > > This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of > "weak dependencie

Re: [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
For the record. We use SPDX in the release engineering got repo for all the code we maintain there. Dennis On July 9, 2015 7:03:43 AM CDT, "Haïkel" wrote: >Hi, > >I would like to get feedback from Fedora Legal and also my fellow >contributors about considering >SPDX. > >SPDX (Software Package D

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:31:52 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > Hi, > > Today I happened to look at this page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html > > from which I can see we have potentially on the order of 100 new > potential contributors to Fedora whose efforts

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Marcin Haba
On 10.07.2015 16:10, Haïkel wrote: > I recommend you to start doing informal reviews and link them to your > own tickets. > By doing so, you'll be: > 1. showing your understanding/knowledge of RPM packaging/Fedora guidelines > 2. help reducing the workload => if applicants do good informal reviews,

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Haïkel
I recommend you to start doing informal reviews and link them to your own tickets. By doing so, you'll be: 1. showing your understanding/knowledge of RPM packaging/Fedora guidelines 2. help reducing the workload => if applicants do good informal reviews, I usually approve/finish them AND that inclu

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-10 Thread Jan Zelený
On 10. 7. 2015 at 09:45:36, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 10:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 11:22 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > Is there any case to allow Supplements: in the Fedora Collection? > > > It > > > seems to me like this could be pr

rawhide report: 20150710 changes

2015-07-10 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Jul 10 05:15:02 UTC 2015 Broken deps for i386 -- [apache-scout] apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:uddi-ws) apache-scout-1.2.6-11.fc21.noarch requires mvn(org.apache.juddi:ju

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Marcin Haba
On 10.07.2015 15:43, Haïkel wrote: > 2015-07-10 15:31 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Underwood > mailto:jonathan.underw...@gmail.com>>: > > Hi, > > Today I happened to look at this page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html > > from which I can see we have poten

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 10:32 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 11:22 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Is there any case to allow Supplements: in the Fedora Collection? > > It > > seems to me like this could be problematic. (e.g. I write a plugin > > for > > a popular engin

Re: Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Haïkel
2015-07-10 15:31 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Underwood : > Hi, > > Today I happened to look at this page: > > http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html > > from which I can see we have potentially on the order of 100 new > potential contributors to Fedora whose efforts we're missing ou

[Bug 1231903] perl-Test-Apocalypse-1.006-1.fc23 FTBFS with perl-5.22: unsatisfied dependency

2015-07-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1231903 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED External Bug ID|

Self Introduction: Jackson Isaac

2015-07-10 Thread Jackson Isaac
Hi everyone, I am a final year B.Tech Computer Science and Engineering student from Amrita Vishwa Vidyapeetham, Kerala, India. I have working on open source projects since past 2-3 years. I have contributed to projects namely GNOME-Music, Mozilla Firefox, Mozillians and Mediawiki-vagrant. This ye

Sponsor shortage

2015-07-10 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Hi, Today I happened to look at this page: http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html from which I can see we have potentially on the order of 100 new potential contributors to Fedora whose efforts we're missing out on due to a lack of sponsors. Some people seem to have been w

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-10 Thread Björn Persson
Jerry James wrote: > First, what is a hint? Does that word refer collectively to all weak > dependencies? The wiki page doesn't say, so I'm left to guess. That seemed perfectly clear to me. Note how the word is introduced: “They come in two strengths: "weak" and "hint" [...]” The meaning of “we

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 07:56 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > You didn't offer your opinion on which of the three options you > > think > > we should go with. I would offer option 1 is the one we'd pick. > > It > > honors the intentions o

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher < > sgall...@redhat.com> wrote: > > (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the > > rel > > -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial > > message) >

problem with grafic driver on F22 KDE i686

2015-07-10 Thread gil
hi sometimes the pc freeze with a black screen on F22 kde i686 i *must* use the power button other way are no possible for me xorg.log https://gil.fedorapeople.org/xorg-9-log.txt Konsole outpu journalctl journalctl https://gil.fedorapeople.org/journal-debug.txt i tried to add a script (as I was

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2015-07-10 at 08:20 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > You didn't offer your opinion on which of the three options you think > we should go with. I would offer option 1 is the one we'd pick. It > honors the intentions of the package maintainer the best. Which > would > you choose? Option 2 is

Re: [Guidelines change] Changes to the packaging guidelines

2015-07-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 21:42 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > If that is not what the word means, then a definition > in the introduction would be very helpful, since there is no > definition anywhere on that page. A hint is a weak dependency that does not affect the default package suggestion: Suggests

Re: Problem with bluetooth in Fedora 22

2015-07-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
I've finally get connected using bluedevil in KDE. I don't know exactly how this was happened... anyway error messages persist: journalctl -f jul 10 09:30:10 newhope.belkin.home obexd[1859]: CONNECT(0x0), (null)(0x) jul 10 09:30:10 newhope.belkin.home obexd[1859]: CONNECT(0x0), (null)(0x

Problem with bluetooth in Fedora 22

2015-07-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi community, Bluetooth does not work in Fedora 22: [root@newhope sergio]# systemctl status bluetooth ● bluetooth.service - Bluetooth service Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since vie 2015-07-10 09:14:49 A

Re: RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 8:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > (Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel > -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) > > This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of > "weak dependencies" i

Re: updates-testing: multilib broken for days now

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, 2015-07-09 at 07:39 -0400, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015 21:30:40 +0200 > > Reindl Harald wrote: > > > > ...snip... > > > > > Protected multilib versions: polkit-0.113-1.fc21.x86_64 > > > != > > > polkit-0.112-7.fc21.1.i686 > > > > This is due to polkit spli

RPM Weak Dependencies and the install media compose process

2015-07-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
(Please keep the conversation on the devel list; I'm CCing it the rel -eng list to make sure all the relevant people see the initial message) This past week, the Fedora Packaging Committee approved the use of "weak dependencies" in Fedora. What this means is that RPM packages can now have three le

[HEADS UP] dracut-live subpackage

2015-07-10 Thread Harald Hoyer
dracut now has a new subpackage "dracut-live" which is needed to boot live images with dmsquash. Please add this package to your dependencies. Thanks! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedorap

Re: [Fedora-legal-list] [RFC] Switching to SPDX in license tags

2015-07-10 Thread Haïkel
Hi, Forwarding to your attention a mail from Kate Stewart (Linux Foundation) comparing SPDX license identifiers with Fedora short identifiers sent on the legal list. Could be of interest. Regards, H. ​ SPDX-2.1_Fedora_compare_20150709.ods

ppisar pushed to perl-Config-Perl-V (master). "Import"

2015-07-10 Thread notifications
From 80cee121b997e099c06846afb3fe822d389bec95 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Petr=20P=C3=ADsa=C5=99?= Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:20:22 +0200 Subject: Import diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore index e69de29..43472fc 100644 --- a/.gitignore +++ b/.gitignore @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +/Config-Perl-V

Re: Hadoop javadoc problem (FTBFS)

2015-07-10 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 07/09/2015 11:45 PM, Christopher wrote: > Regarding https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1239555 > > Hadoop seems to have a problem due to javadocs. It seems to be > affecting rawhide, and maybe earlier versions, but I haven't verified. > Aside from patching the upstream javadoc bug, is

ABI breaking libsidplayfp update coming to rawhide

2015-07-10 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi All, I've just started a build of libsidplayfp-1.8.0 for rawhide, this new version breaks the ABI, and as such comes with a soname bump. The API is not changed, some functions have been marked as deprecated, fixing things for this if / when they get removed should be trivial. I'll take care