On 11/15/2014 11:41 PM, Johannes Lips wrote:
I don't really understand the issue at all.
We have a "no-phone-home" and "no-spy" policy in Fedora.
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On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Christopher
wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Johannes Lips
> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Christopher
>> wrote:
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>>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac
>>> wrote:
>>>
On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Johannes Lips
wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Christopher
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>>> >> Lar
| > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
| >> Lars Seipel wrote:
| >>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
| >>> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
| >>
| >> No!
| >>
| >> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in
| >> f
Kalev Lember wrote:
> 2) juffed was broken by
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2014-14301/ . Interestingly
> enough the update passed the Taskatron depcheck test there, even though it
> created a new broken dependency in the repo.
The Taskatron depcheck appears to be broken or inco
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 20:40:07 +0100
Till Maas wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 07:40:19PM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 03:20:03PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
> >
> > > totpcgi
> >
> > This requires an selinux export to make it build again:
> >
> > | + make NAME=mls -f /usr
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Christopher
wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
>
>> On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> >
>> > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>> >> Lars Seipel wrote:
>> >>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for
On 11/15/2014 11:52 AM, Till Maas wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 03:20:03PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
>
>> To avoid that, I'll file a FESCo ticket next Monday to approve dropping
>> the following packages, unless they get fixed first:
>
> I can do the mass retirement if there is a final list a
On 11/15/2014 03:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Kalev Lember wrote:
>> I would like to remove the packages that still have broken dependencies
>> in the F21 tree.
>
> Please check for packages requiring those broken packages, and transitively
> packages requiring packages requiring those broken pac
We're not running the Transifex Server on the Fedora infrastructure. The
Localization group has also decided to move to a self-managed Zanata
instance anyway.
The Transifex Client package is which is what many developers use.
-d
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:59 AM, Kevin Kofler
wrote:
> Matthias R
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote:
> On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> >> Lars Seipel wrote:
> >>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
> >>> applications to carry ads and report track
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
> We should stick with Firefox for the time being, and simply disable the
> ad feature one way or another.
Good luck with that. I'm concerned that Firefox is suffering issues
similar to OpenSSL in its size and cross-platform support and
On 11/13/2014 02:20 PM, Kalev Lember wrote:
Hi,
I would like to remove the packages that still have broken dependencies
in the F21 tree.
This is a followup to
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-October/203411.html
It makes little sense to ship something that cannot even be in
On November 15, 2014 5:51:28 PM EET, Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
>On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 15:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely
>
>Showing ads does not make Firefox nonfree. The only reason we should
>completely remove Firefox from Fedora is
On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 14:51 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> It's not "hackish", it's "configurable". Letting the user decide
> whether
> they want to have weak dependencies installed or not is part of the
> whole
> point of having them.
I agree. --no-recommends is a very basic feature of package ma
On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 15:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely
Showing ads does not make Firefox nonfree. The only reason we should
completely remove Firefox from Fedora is if it starts shipping nonfree
or patent-encumbered code -- like the
Am 15.11.2014 um 16:10 schrieb Björn Persson:
Lars Seipel wrote:
What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
I definitely don't want the software I use to phone home and report on
what I'm doing, not any more than what
Lars Seipel wrote:
> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
I definitely don't want the software I use to phone home and report on
what I'm doing, not any more than what is strictly necessary for
technical reasons.
>
On 11/15/2014 02:25 PM, Lars Seipel wrote:
What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
No. It is not.
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Björn Persson wrote:
> Jan Silhan wrote:
> > On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
> > > weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
> >
> > DNF doesn't do
On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
>> Lars Seipel wrote:
>>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
>>> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
>>
>> No!
>>
>> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox
Jan Silhan wrote:
> On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
> > weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
>
> DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish behavior.
You r
Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler:
Lars Seipel wrote:
What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
No!
IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in favor of
Epiphany for Workstation and Mi
Lars Seipel wrote:
> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
No!
IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in favor of
Epiphany for Workstation and Midori for the Spins (except the KDE Spin which
Kalev Lember wrote:
> I would like to remove the packages that still have broken dependencies
> in the F21 tree.
Please check for packages requiring those broken packages, and transitively
packages requiring packages requiring those broken packages etc. Otherwise,
you'll just add more broken dep
Matthias Runge wrote:
> yes, that's the package. But IMHO transifex became closed source, and
> last code change was about 2 years ago; since then, django changed quite
> a bit.
So we now have core Fedora infrastructure depending on a proprietary third-
party web service?
We should never have mov
Jan Silhan wrote:
>> 3. The page says "The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
>> weak relations or the other way round" does dnf do that? or not?
>
> DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish
> behavior.
It's not "hackish", it's "configurable". Letting the use
Richard Hughes wrote:
> Actually, I was going to propose doing "gsettings set
> org.gnome.software require-appdata true"
That's at least the right place to enforce that policy.
> I guess you'll have to apologise for that tirade, right?
So yes, sorry for assuming otherwise.
That still doesn't me
> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship
> applications to carry ads and report tracking data?
If I search 'twitter' on Gnome Shell I'm prompted with twitter.com. So
whatever decision we make for ads let's make sure we are consistent.
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So Mozilla has recently gone live with its advertisement tiles on the
"New Tab" page. Only newly created profiles get to see this stuff.
On a pristine F21 install using Gnome, when first launching Firefox,
users are presented with a number of tiles, depending on screen size.
One of those is a so-c
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On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 03:20:03PM +0200, Kalev Lember wrote:
> To avoid that, I'll file a FESCo ticket next Monday to approve dropping
> the following packages, unless they get fixed first:
I can do the mass retirement if there is a final list and decision. Did
you check that there are not packa
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