On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Christopher <ctubbsii-fed...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Johannes Lips <johannes.l...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Christopher <ctubbsii-fed...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Rejy M Cyriac <rcyr...@redhat.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 11/15/2014 07:43 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Am 15.11.2014 um 15:06 schrieb Kevin Kofler: >>>> >> Lars Seipel wrote: >>>> >>> What does the community think of it? Is it okay for our flagship >>>> >>> applications to carry ads and report tracking data? >>>> >> >>>> >> No! >>>> >> >>>> >> IMHO, we should consider dropping Firefox from Fedora entirely, in >>>> >> favor of >>>> >> Epiphany for Workstation and Midori for the Spins (except the KDE >>>> Spin >>>> >> which >>>> >> already ships Konqueror as the browser) >>>> > >>>> > NO! >>>> > >>>> > * i don't see that crap at all >>>> > * even if i could disable it (or maybe have it in about:config) >>>> > * i want to use Firefox for thousand reasons >>>> > >>>> > it's *not* freedom to remove Firefox >>>> > freedom would be make it not default but still offer it >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Disabling the ADs feature from firefox, if that is possible, would be >>>> the right move for Fedora. >>>> >>>> We also could lobby mozilla to re-consider this decision. >>>> >>>> >>> I don't really understand the issue at all. We also don't have any >> problems offering google or any other search engine with our default >> configuration in firefox. But if a truly open-source foundation implements >> something to generate some revenue, which will most probably help the >> development of open source software, it suddenly becomes a big deal? >> >> > I think the main difference is that it collects personal data and gives > that information to for-profit companies, as a default configuration, > without a user first "opting in" to that sort of data sharing. It is > supposedly sanitized of user-identifying information, but a user should be > given the option of deciding whether that sanitization is sufficient for > them. Yes, Mozilla is "open source", but that's not the same as "free > software" in every sense of the word, and people are wanting more from > their free software, such as better control over their personal data, and > the idea of privacy is working its way into some definitions of "free". > > I don't necessarily see any reason to lobby Mozilla to change their > decision... I think it's fine for them to do what they are doing. They > might be welcome to a suggestion to include an installer/download option to > give their direct download users some better controls over this feature (if > they haven't done so already). But for Fedora, I think it makes sense to > disable it by default, and if that is done, I don't see any issue. If > Mozilla had a "first use" setup option to control this feature, then I > would even say that it's not needed for Fedora to even bother doing > anything. So, maybe that's something that could be brought up with Mozilla > (if it doesn't already exist). > Would be nice if we replace booking.com and other organizational advertising with Fedora related projects and technologies? > > >> >> >>> +1 >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Rejy M Cyriac (rmc) >>>> -- >>>> devel mailing list >>>> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>>> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> devel mailing list >>> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >>> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >>> >> >> >> -- >> devel mailing list >> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel >> Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct >> > > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct > -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/danishkanavin http://www.flickr.com/photos/danishkanavin/
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