(Rawhide users) Fedora 22 branching: What You Need To Know

2014-07-09 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks! As we just hit a branch point, here's a refresher on what this means for folks who've been running Rawhide. If you want to keep running Rawhide, which will now contain packages tracked for Fedora *22*, you don't need to do anything: just keep updating. From tomorrow onwards, you'll star

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED][FINAL NOTICE] Retiring packages for Fedora 21 v4

2014-07-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-07-01 at 19:55 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > The following packages are orphaned or did not build for two > releases and will be retired when Fedora (F21) is branched, unless someone > adopts them. If you know for sure that the package should be retired, please > do > so now with a proper

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Oron Peled
A non-API related question... On Thursday 10 July 2014 01:49:41 Lennart Poettering wrote: > Please understand that we are not duplicating "adduser" here. Already in > the name of the tool we wanted to make clear thtat this is abotu system > users, nothing else. The file format we defined has been

F-21 Branched report: 20140709 changes

2014-07-09 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Jul 9 20:16:43 UTC 2014 Broken deps for armhfp -- [APLpy] APLpy-0.9.8-5.fc21.noarch requires pywcs [PyKDE] PyKDE-3.16.6-14.fc20.armv7hl requires sip-api(10) >= 0:10.0 [audtty] audtty-0.1.12-9.fc

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 09.07.14 13:47, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Yeah, because we dodn't want to intrdocue any new API we have carefully > > made sure that whenever we write pasword, group and shadow files we use > > existing APIs from glibc, more specifically putpwent(), putgrent(), > > putspe

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 04:42:23PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > I do not know which or if any Spins will be providing the specific net > install CD you're asking about. This will not be an *official* (read: > tested by QA) method of installing Fedora. However, I see no reason > why it wouldn't

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-09 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/09/2014 03:07 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > > On 7 Jul 2014, at 11:17, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Stephen Gallagher >> wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >>> >>> On 07/06/2014 03:43 AM, William

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-07-10 16:00 UTC)

2014-07-09 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-07-10 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-07-10 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-07-10 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-07-10 1

Re: libuv 0.11.x for rawhide

2014-07-09 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, 2014-07-09 at 14:07 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:00:12 +0400, > Igor Gnatenko wrote: > >Hi, > > > >I'm packaging neovim for Fedora and my builds failing[0], because > >using feature not available in 0.10.x releases. > >In Fedora libuv seems 0.10.x, so can yo

Re: libuv 0.11.x for rawhide

2014-07-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 23:00:12 +0400, Igor Gnatenko wrote: Hi, I'm packaging neovim for Fedora and my builds failing[0], because using feature not available in 0.10.x releases. In Fedora libuv seems 0.10.x, so can you update it to 0.11.26 (now)? Have you filed a bug against libuv for this

Re: fedora-release-$PRODUCT, /etc/issue, /etc/os-release, Per-Product Configs and more!

2014-07-09 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 7 Jul 2014, at 11:17, Josh Boyer wrote: On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/06/2014 03:43 AM, William wrote: On Thu, 2014-07-03 at 10:05 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: That's misleading. Fedora hasn't been releasing "

libuv 0.11.x for rawhide

2014-07-09 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hi, I'm packaging neovim for Fedora and my builds failing[0], because using feature not available in 0.10.x releases. In Fedora libuv seems 0.10.x, so can you update it to 0.11.26 (now)? It's available[1]. If you don't want to break many packages, which using libuv - you can update it for rawhide.

orphaning iperf (2.0.X)

2014-07-09 Thread Gabriel Somlo
iperf 2.0.* has a dead upstream, but last I checked 3.0.* (for which there appears to be a distinct rpm package, not maintained by me) isn't offering 100% feature parity. Not talking about 2.X <-> 3.X compatibility, but rather what all the 2.0 flags do vs. what the 3.X ones do :) Anyhow, while I

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > On Wed, 09.07.14 12:25, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > Can you be more specific about the name validation? > > > > The binding maximum length constraint is from the utmp format > > (UT_NAMESIZE - 1); LOGIN_NAME_MAX is an upper bound but not binding, > >

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > On Wed, 09.07.14 10:30, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > > - Original Message - > > A move to something more declarative makes sense (whether in systemd or > > through some kind of long-expected declarative rpm facility doesn’t matter > > to me much.)

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 09.07.14 12:25, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Can you be more specific about the name validation? > > The binding maximum length constraint is from the utmp format > (UT_NAMESIZE - 1); LOGIN_NAME_MAX is an upper bound but not binding, > and this has already ended up in system

Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-07-09)

2014-07-09 Thread Matthew Miller
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-07-09) === Meeting started by mattdm at 17:01:56 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-07-09/fesco.2014-07-09-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary ---

Re: rawhide report: 20140709 changes

2014-07-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 9 Jul 2014 12:23:54 -0500 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:01:57 -0600, > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >FYI, rawhide composed fine, but due to renaming and building a new > >rawhide composer machine it didn't properly sync the compose to the > >master mirror. :( > > > >I hav

Re: rawhide report: 20140709 changes

2014-07-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 11:01:57 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: FYI, rawhide composed fine, but due to renaming and building a new rawhide composer machine it didn't properly sync the compose to the master mirror. :( I have corrected the issue and am manually syncing it over now. I am seeing the

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2014 19:18, schrieb Chris Adams: > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: >> On Wed, 09.07.14 10:30, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: >>> * breaks the configurable [UG]ID_MIN logic >>> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/1000SystemAccounts, and yes, >>> that is actually u

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > On Wed, 09.07.14 10:30, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > > * breaks the configurable [UG]ID_MIN logic > > (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/1000SystemAccounts, and yes, > > that is actually used and needed) > > Well, this is something I

Re: rawhide report: 20140709 changes

2014-07-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
FYI, rawhide composed fine, but due to renaming and building a new rawhide composer machine it didn't properly sync the compose to the master mirror. :( I have corrected the issue and am manually syncing it over now. So, if you wonder why you didn't see any updates in yum/dnf, thats why. ;) k

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 09.07.14 10:30, Miloslav Trmač (m...@redhat.com) wrote: > - Original Message - > > Hi, for Atomic I'd like to investigate the new systemd-sysusers, so I > > wrote up a Change: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSysusers > > A move to something more declarative

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 09.07.14 06:19, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: > Hi, for Atomic I'd like to investigate the new systemd-sysusers, so I > wrote up a Change: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSysusers > > Note: for Fedora 22. > > The main motivation for me is it would allow Ato

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
(This is all rather beside the point: fixing those particular things won’t eliminate any of the problems of triplicate implementations and splintered knowledge. But to spread the awareness of the area…) - Original Message - > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014, at 07:30 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014, at 07:30 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > * validates names incorrectly We're talking about the equivalent of lu_name_allowed() from libuser? Something like the /* Allow trailing $ for samba machine accounts. */ ? But the usernames specified here are only for system users, they'

Re: startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind

2014-07-09 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 09 Jul 2014 10:21:55 +0200 poma wrote: > > "startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind" > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1117682 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=916668 > > As explained here, > "gphoto2 only as root -" > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/

startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind

2014-07-09 Thread poma
"startxfce4 harmonization with the systemd-logind" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1117682 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=916668 As explained here, "gphoto2 only as root -" https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2014-January/446166.html with the reference, "s

Re: [Base] The Base Design WG is looking for a new committee member!

2014-07-09 Thread Phil Knirsch
That sounds great Michal. If you could join us tomorrow at our meeting at 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting that would be excellent. Thank you for your interest and see you tomorrow! Regards, Phil On 07/08/2014 02:31 PM, Michal Sekletar wrote: On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 06:13:01PM +0200, Phil Knirsc

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014, at 06:34 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Colin, we're _really_ hoping to make Atomic a flagship feature for Fedora > Cloud in F21. If I work on getting the shadow-utils patch landed, does > that > _conflict_ with the new approach? It doesn't conflict, no. Let's discuss this in t

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Miloslav Trmač
- Original Message - > Hi, for Atomic I'd like to investigate the new systemd-sysusers, so I > wrote up a Change: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSysusers A move to something more declarative makes sense (whether in systemd or through some kind of long-expected declarat

Re: New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 06:19:19AM -0700, Colin Walters wrote: > Hi, for Atomic I'd like to investigate the new systemd-sysusers, so I > wrote up a Change: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSysusers > > Note: for Fedora 22. > > The main motivation for me is it would allow Atomic

Re: [corrected!] Re: 5tFTW: DNF and Mailing List Wars, F21 Branch, FESCo Election, Python 3.5, and Docs Beats (2014-07-08)

2014-07-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Jul 09, 2014 at 01:13:30PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > in fact it where around 5 people keep heating the discussion and burry > the arguments of people which did not want more than what was present > over years and now came back in DNF and it that case *you must* respond > and try to expl

New Fedora 22 Change proposal: systemd-sysusers

2014-07-09 Thread Colin Walters
Hi, for Atomic I'd like to investigate the new systemd-sysusers, so I wrote up a Change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SystemdSysusers Note: for Fedora 22. The main motivation for me is it would allow Atomic to not be a Remix due to the not-in-Fedora shadow-utils patch[1] Further, it w

Re: [corrected!] Re: 5tFTW: DNF and Mailing List Wars, F21 Branch, FESCo Election, Python 3.5, and Docs Beats (2014-07-08)

2014-07-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.07.2014 03:40, schrieb Matthew Miller: > On Thursday, DNF version 0.5.3 was announced, along with Core DNF > Plugins 0.1.1, which contains a new protected_packages plugin. So, > there we go. > > It think it’s worth noting, though, that this a good example of how > mailing list discussions

PkgDB, pending ACL requests

2014-07-09 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Good Morning everyone! In the version 1.13 of pkgdb2 a new API endpoint has been added that just provide the list of pending ACL requests: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/api/pendingacls I just wanted to share with you the first line of its output: # Number of requests pending: 5492 N