Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/15/2014 03:40 PM, Jan Staněk wrote: Dne 11.4.2014 16:59, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: == Scope == * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper versioning in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. Is this symbol versioning

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Garry T. Williams
On 4-15-14 11:55:17 Reindl Harald wrote: > short ago it was proposed "drop tcpwrapper from the distribution > because there is a firewall and we should rely on a sinle layer of > defense" followed directly by "oh and now let us disable that > security layer in a default install" +1 -- Garry T. W

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo meeting (2014-04-16)

2014-04-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2014-04-16 17:00 UTC' Links to all tickets belo

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 07:28:35PM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 13:49 -0700, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > > > You have connected to an new network. If this is a public network, you > > may want to stop sharing your Music and disable Remote Logins. > > [Turn off sharing] [Continue

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:11 PM, William Brown wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 13:49 -0700, Matthias Clasen wrote: >> On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:41 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: >> >> > > >> > > What you need is clearly different "zones" that the user can configure >> > > and associate to networks, wi

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 13:49 -0700, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > You have connected to an new network. If this is a public network, you > may want to stop sharing your Music and disable Remote Logins. > [Turn off sharing] [Continue sharing] [Sharing Preferences...] So if you have 4 different service

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread William Brown
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 13:49 -0700, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:41 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: > > > > > > > What you need is clearly different "zones" that the user can configure > > > and associate to networks, with the default being that you trust nothing > > > and everyth

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:55:21PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > This would make sense for non cloud images as well. Is there any > reason why we have to restrict that to the cloud? Somewhere to start, mostly. I'd love to see it extend across the project. -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project-

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 22:55:21 +0200, > drago01 wrote: >> >> >> This would make sense for non cloud images as well. Is there any >> reason why we have to restrict that to the cloud? > > > QA resource limits. The gold image remains i

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 22:55:21 +0200, drago01 wrote: This would make sense for non cloud images as well. Is there any reason why we have to restrict that to the cloud? QA resource limits. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:08:34 -0400 > Matthew Miller wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:07:47AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > Might be good to specify better what a 'severe security issue' is. >> > >> > Perhaps "Any update rated "important

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:41 +0200, Thomas Woerner wrote: > > > > What you need is clearly different "zones" that the user can configure > > and associate to networks, with the default being that you trust nothing > > and everything is firewalled when you roam a new network. > > > We have that alre

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Fidel Leon
On Tuesday 15 April 2014 22:27:11 Reindl Harald wrote: > that's not the point > > the point is that you discuss in a security related topic > while your problem is far off-topic ?? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel About devel This list is only for discussion of deve

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 22:19, schrieb Andreas Tunek: > 2014-04-15 21:28 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : >> >> >> Am 15.04.2014 20:18, schrieb Andreas Tunek: >>> 2014-04-15 20:08 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : Am 15.04.2014 20:03, schrieb Andreas Tunek: > I just want to say that I really support this feature

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andreas Tunek
2014-04-15 21:28 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > Am 15.04.2014 20:18, schrieb Andreas Tunek: >> 2014-04-15 20:08 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : >>> Am 15.04.2014 20:03, schrieb Andreas Tunek: I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see any point in a firewall for a "Wor

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:28 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:00:45AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 15:07 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging = > > > > > The communication between th

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 20:18, schrieb Andreas Tunek: > 2014-04-15 20:08 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : >> Am 15.04.2014 20:03, schrieb Andreas Tunek: >>> I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see >>> any point in a firewall for a "Workstation". >> >> that's obviously >> >>> BTW, while

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Christian Schaller wrote: We already allow that and have for a long while. Any application bothering to support the firewalld dbus interface can open any port they wish to. Good luck getting software to add this. A more sensible option would be to better tie NetworkManager into firewalld. Wh

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 20:31 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: > Anyway, I get the feeling that the hunt for the "really proper" fix is > not that fruitful here. OTOH, if you limit the goals to fulfill the > basic statement to not let the default configuration of firewalld > block the functionality of the d

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 04/15/2014 04:37 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 10:28 -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: - Original Message - From: "Reindl Harald" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewa

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 4/15/14, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: [cut] >> I keep thinking that, if I had unlimited time, I'd write a totally >> different kind of firewall. It would allow some policy (userspace >> daemon or rules loaded into the kernel) to determine when pro

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:00:45AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 15:07 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging = > > > The communication between the two daemons is done over standard HTTPS, > > following rather simple rules, s

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Alec Leamas
On 4/15/14, Andreas Tunek wrote: > I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see > any point in a firewall for a "Workstation". I have respect for the opinion that firewalld should be disabled although personally I am far from convinced, there are some arguments for that. B

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andreas Tunek
2014-04-15 20:08 GMT+02:00 Reindl Harald : > > > Am 15.04.2014 20:03, schrieb Andreas Tunek: >> I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see >> any point in a firewall for a "Workstation". > > that's obviously > >> BTW, while we are on the subject, does anyone know how to act

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:13 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christopher wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: Am 15.04.2014 16:28, schrieb Christian Schaller:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 20:03, schrieb Andreas Tunek: > I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see > any point in a firewall for a "Workstation". that's obviously > BTW, while we are on the subject, does anyone know how to actually > disable the firewall in Fedora 20? I haven't m

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:25:39AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > To be clear here, all this is implemented in the two daemons right? > > When you say it uses https, thats natively done in the daemons, they > don't need apache or some other https implementor in the way? Yes, it's implemented in two d

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andreas Tunek
I just want to say that I really support this feature. I do not see any point in a firewall for a "Workstation". BTW, while we are on the subject, does anyone know how to actually disable the firewall in Fedora 20? I haven't managed to figure it out /Andreas -- devel mailing list devel@lists

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 19:05, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Reindl Harald > wrote: >> Am 15.04.2014 18:51, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: Am 15.04.2014 17:40, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > On T

Re: Python 3 and mod_wsgi

2014-04-15 Thread Joe Orton
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:21:50AM -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > We should probably have a similar guard in the mod_wsgi config file as well. > Then be sure that we consciously name the conf files so that we are > promoting one of these as the default (because sort order will load one of > them b

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 12:08:34 -0400 Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:07:47AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Might be good to specify better what a 'severe security issue' is. > > > > Perhaps "Any update rated "important" or higher on the severity > > scale? > > https://access.re

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > No. Boot entries in NVRAM come first. See UEFI spec 2.4.0, section 3.4.1.2, > and 12.3.1.3 "This directory contains EFI images that aide in recovery if the > boot selections for the software installed on the EFI system partition are > eve

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 15.04.2014 18:51, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 15.04.2014 17:40, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Christian Schaller
- Original Message - > From: "Simo Sorce" > To: "Development discussions related to Fedora" > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 4:37:38 PM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall > > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 10:28 -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > > - Or

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 18:51, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 15.04.2014 17:40, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: >> >> >>> How about having an API where things like DLNA can simply >>>

Re: rpcbind is enabled by default, and gnome-boxes requires it

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 09:16 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: >> > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 08:47 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> I don't know whether this should be a gnome-boxes bug, an r

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 18:38, schrieb Mateusz Marzantowicz: > On 15.04.2014 11:40, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> it is not a point of *what i can do and do* >> it is a point what the ordinary 08/15 user does which assumes >> to have a by default secure system after install > > Fedora is not for ordinary use

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 15.04.2014 17:40, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: > > >> How about having an API where things like DLNA can simply >> not run until you're connected to your home network? > > you

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 18:13, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christopher wrote: >> Ideally, users would have complete knowledge of the behavior of every >> piece of software in their system that utilizes the network, in which >> case, they could very easily get by without a

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 17:40, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> that is pretty easy - defaults have to be closed anything and the user >> have to make a choice for, otherwise if there are cirtical security >> updates after a release you have *exactly*

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 15.04.2014 11:40, Reindl Harald wrote: it is not a point of *what i can do and do* it is a point what the ordinary 08/15 user does which assumes to have a by default secure system after install Fedora is not for ordinary users. Fedora is for geeks and developers that like to experiment w

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 09:13 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > I keep thinking that, if I had unlimited time, I'd write a totally > different kind of firewall. It would allow some policy (userspace > daemon or rules loaded into the kernel) to determine when programs can > listen on what sockets and

Re: rpcbind is enabled by default, and gnome-boxes requires it

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 09:16 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 08:47 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> I don't know whether this should be a gnome-boxes bug, an rpcbind bug, > >> or a FESCo ticket, or something else, so

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Christopher
I think you and I disagree that "b" is broken. In my mind "b" (listening w/firewall closed) is precisely what the firewall is designed to do... act as a failsafe in the event of an unexpected application listening when a user doesn't really know or want it to. -- Christopher L Tubbs II http://grav

Re: Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:26:58AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > So you could use this instead if you need the native compiler: > > ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_native_compiler} I should have said that if you have to do this, it's very likely to be a bug. There are *very* few reasons why a pack

Re: Python 3 and mod_wsgi

2014-04-15 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 04:54:33PM -0400, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: > ━━━ > > I naively ported my Django app to Python 3 and didn't realize WSGI was > going to be an issue. I saw python3-django was available for Fedo

Re: rpcbind is enabled by default, and gnome-boxes requires it

2014-04-15 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:16:29AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > rpcbind has this script: > > postinstall scriptlet (using /bin/sh): > if [ $1 -eq 1 ] ; then > # Initial installation > /bin/systemctl enable rpcbind.service >/dev/null 2>&1 || : > fi > > nfs-utils has this script (excer

Re: rpcbind is enabled by default, and gnome-boxes requires it

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 08:47 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> I don't know whether this should be a gnome-boxes bug, an rpcbind bug, >> or a FESCo ticket, or something else, so I'm asking here. >> >> rpcbind enables itself by default. This pag

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Christopher wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 15.04.2014 16:28, schrieb Christian Schaller: >>> There was a long thread about this on the desktop mailin

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 09:07:47AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Might be good to specify better what a 'severe security issue' is. > > Perhaps "Any update rated "important" or higher on the severity scale? > https://access.redhat.com/site/security/updates/classification/ Yeah, that needs to be wo

Re: rpcbind is enabled by default, and gnome-boxes requires it

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 08:47 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > I don't know whether this should be a gnome-boxes bug, an rpcbind bug, > or a FESCo ticket, or something else, so I'm asking here. > > rpcbind enables itself by default. This page says that it has a > specific exception, so it's okay:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Christopher
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 15.04.2014 16:28, schrieb Christian Schaller: >> >>> There was a long thread about this on the desktop mailing list, and I was >>> not in the 'disable the firewall' camp in

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Enable Software Collections

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Are there plans to show SCL's in gnome-software as well, or is that drifting too far from 'applications' ? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fe

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Playground repository

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... > Packages for the repository are built in COPR. The COPR owner can > propose the repository as a whole for inclusion into the Playground > repository by marking it as such in COPR. Repositories/packages > successfully built and satisfying the Playground repository's > Policies are copi

rpcbind is enabled by default, and gnome-boxes requires it

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
I don't know whether this should be a gnome-boxes bug, an rpcbind bug, or a FESCo ticket, or something else, so I'm asking here. rpcbind enables itself by default. This page says that it has a specific exception, so it's okay: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Starting_services_by_default I assume

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 7:42 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 15.04.2014 16:28, schrieb Christian Schaller: > >> There was a long thread about this on the desktop mailing list, and I was >> not in the 'disable the firewall' camp in that discussion, but nobody in >> that thread or here have articula

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Josh Bressers
> > > users running applications which opening a high port in the background > > like license checks and so on (as example ZendStudio) will be really > > thankful that as default these ports are open on the WAN > > Why does it listen on a port for license checks? It should just contact > the serv

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Enable Software Collections

2014-04-15 Thread Honza Horak
On 04/15/2014 02:37 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: HI On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Tadej Janež wrote: Does the above refer to the repositories available at https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/? Yes. So this change can be re-stated like "Workstation product will have SCLs from ww

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 04/15/2014 04:42 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.04.2014 16:28, schrieb Christian Schaller: - Original Message - From: "Reindl Harald" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall Am

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Cockpit Management Console

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... > Special Requests: Cockpit would like to request an additional 2-4 > weeks on the Fedora 21 schedule to ensure completion of the core > functionality. So, you want to push final release out to november? Or can you expand on what you mean by 'on the Fedora 21 schedule' ? kevin sign

[Bug 1087334] perl-Net-Twitter-4.01004 is available

2014-04-15 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087334 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|ON_QA --- Comment #3 from Fedo

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
To be clear here, all this is implemented in the two daemons right? When you say it uses https, thats natively done in the daemons, they don't need apache or some other https implementor in the way? Which ssl stack does this use? nss? openssl? gnutls? something else? kevin signature.asc Descr

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 04/15/2014 04:28 PM, Christian Schaller wrote: - Original Message - From: "Reindl Harald" To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall Am 15.04.2014 11:32, schrieb drago01: On Tue, A

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 17:14, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 10:21, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of th

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Make 4.0 Update

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
This might be another one to make sure and land and iron out any issues before a mass rebuild. https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5877 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Ruby193 in SCL

2014-04-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.4.2014 10:21, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.4.2014 02:07, T.C. Hollingsworth napsal(a): On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:16 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: Rails depends on exact v8 version, which means v8 3.14 must have also their own SCL as part of the SCL. Stupid question: what in rails depend

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:19:37 +0200 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: ...snip... > We need to be able to produce official updates to the Fedora Cloud > images. Initially, we plan to release these updates monthly, but also > need the ability to release an out-of-cycle update in the event of a > severe securi

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 08:59 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 14:35 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > What needs to be done to improve the firewall integration? > > > > Zbyszek > > The rule in the Workstation technical spec is: "A firewall in its > default config

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 15:07 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging = > The communication between the two daemons is done over standard HTTPS, > following rather simple rules, so it is possible to create alternate > implementations without much w

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Fedora 21 Boost 1.56 Uplift

2014-04-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
It would be nice to get this done and merged back into rawhide _before_ any mass rebuild. rel-eng ticket to coordinate mass rebuild: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5877 kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.f

[perl-Try-Tiny] Update to 0.21

2014-04-15 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 306ac7adc756e03faa08f7857b657e127c84b7f3 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Tue Apr 15 15:39:28 2014 +0100 Update to 0.21 - New upstream release 0.21 - Also skip the test if Capture::Tiny is too old (https://github.com/doy/try-tiny/issues/17) perl-Try-Tiny.spec |

Re: Taskotron and Cloud Image tests

2014-04-15 Thread Mike Ruckman
On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 17:01:49 +0200 Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: > Vitaly Kuznetsov writes: > > > Hi Tim & all, > > > > Yesterday I've tried setting up Taskotron (according to > > http://roshi.fedorapeople.org/dexy-themed/) on 3 F20 VMs in EC2 and > > actually I've failed (some ansible playbooks are

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 16:28, schrieb Christian Schaller: > - Original Message - >> From: "Reindl Harald" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM >> Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall >> >> >> Am 15.04.2014 11:32, schrieb dr

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 10:28 -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Reindl Harald" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM > > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall > > > > > > Am 15.04.20

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 16:59, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >> == Scope == >> * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper >> versioning >> in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. > > Is this symbol versioning intended to be upstream?

File Try-Tiny-0.21.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-04-15 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Try-Tiny: 98049893c9ce161ba4d1393e00dc8bea Try-Tiny-0.21.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Taskotron and Cloud Image tests

2014-04-15 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 13:51:10 +0200 Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote: > Hi Tim & all, > > in Cloud WG we have 'Automatic Smoketests on Image Build' task: > https://fedorahosted.org/cloud/ticket/38 > AFAIK you have somehting similar among future Taskotron goals. It > would be nice if we can collaborate here

[Bug 1087904] New: perl-Text-Patch for EPEL 6 and 7

2014-04-15 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087904 Bug ID: 1087904 Summary: perl-Text-Patch for EPEL 6 and 7 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Text-Patch Assignee: psab...@redhat.com Reporter: xav...@bachelot

[Bug 1087903] New: perl-CSS-Minifier for EPEL 6 and 7

2014-04-15 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1087903 Bug ID: 1087903 Summary: perl-CSS-Minifier for EPEL 6 and 7 Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-CSS-Minifier Assignee: emman...@seyman.fr Reporter: xav...@bach

Re: Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 04/15/2014 01:26 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: NOTE: If you are in the CC of this email, then you don't need to do anything. I will fix your package for you. However you should still read the email. Some OCaml spec files do the following: ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arch

Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
NOTE: If you are in the CC of this email, then you don't need to do anything. I will fix your package for you. However you should still read the email. Some OCaml spec files do the following: ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches} This is always incorrect for several reasons: (1)

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Christian Schaller
- Original Message - > From: "Reindl Harald" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:40:20 AM > Subject: Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall > > > Am 15.04.2014 11:32, schrieb drago01: > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Reindl Hara

Meeting minute from Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-04-15)

2014-04-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-04-15) Meeting started by mmaslano at 12:01:12 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-04-15/env-and-stacks.2014-04-15-

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.04.2014 15:59, schrieb Michael Catanzaro: > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 14:35 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> What needs to be done to improve the firewall integration? >> >> Zbyszek > > The rule in the Workstation technical spec is: "A firewall in its > default configuration may not

Broken dependencies: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu

2014-04-15 Thread buildsys
perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::MultiForm) On i386: perl-Catalyst-Controller-HTML-FormFu-0.09004-4.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML:

Broken dependencies: mojomojo

2014-04-15 Thread buildsys
mojomojo has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On i386: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requires perl(HTML::FormFu::Element::reCAPTCHA) On armhfp: mojomojo-1.10-1.fc20.noarch requir

Broken dependencies: perl-Language-Expr

2014-04-15 Thread buildsys
perl-Language-Expr has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On x86_64: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On i386: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.fc19.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.16.2) On armhfp: perl-Language-Expr-0.19-4.

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:01:51AM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > == Detailed Description == > The current level of integration into the desktop and applications does not > justify enabling the firewalld service by default. Additionally, the set of

[Base] Base Design WG agenda meeting CANCELED for 18. Apr 2014 15:00 UTC on #fedora-meeting

2014-04-15 Thread Phil Knirsch
Hi everyone. Just a quick heads up that there won't be a meeting on Friday this week as it's a holiday for many countries (Good Friday). Thanks & regards, Phil -- Philipp Knirsch | Tel.: +49-711-96437-470 Manager Core Services| Fax.: +49-711-96437-111 Red Hat GmbH

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 14:35 +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > What needs to be done to improve the firewall integration? > > Zbyszek The rule in the Workstation technical spec is: "A firewall in its default configuration may not interfere with the normal operation of programs installed

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 15:42 +0200, Simone Caronni wrote: > On 15 April 2014 14:35, Christopher wrote: > > > Whoa, the fact that the Firewall is on by default in Fedora (along > > with SELinux) is one of the reasons I choose Fedora over alternatives. > > > > Same thing here, It was really surpris

Re: Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:31:30PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > fails on installed but unpackaged files, details were sent in private > mail Thanks for the details. The -15 package currently building in primary Koji should fix this. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://pe

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Disable firewall

2014-04-15 Thread Simone Caronni
On 15 April 2014 14:35, Christopher wrote: > Whoa, the fact that the Firewall is on by default in Fedora (along > with SELinux) is one of the reasons I choose Fedora over alternatives. > Same thing here, It was really surprising to see it as a proposed feature. How can it be that after years we

Re: F21 System Wide Change: The securetty file is empty by default

2014-04-15 Thread Simo Sorce
On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 13:48 +0930, William Brown wrote: > On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 23:57 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Tue, 2014-04-15 at 08:49 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > > > On 04/14/2014 09:21 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:50 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 14:57, Chris Adams napsal(a): > Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said: >> Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to >> AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older version for packages which >> cannot >> use BerkeleyDB with the new license. > >

Re: Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 14:14:25 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:12:21PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:32:04 +0100 > > "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 08:19:11AM -0400, Jens Petersen wrote: > > > > > > >Some OCaml spe

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 15:55, Florian Weimer napsal(a): > On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 >> >> Change owner(s): Jan Staněk >> >> Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous r

Re: Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 03:12:21PM +0200, Dan Horák wrote: > On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:32:04 +0100 > "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 08:19:11AM -0400, Jens Petersen wrote: > > > > > >Some OCaml spec files do the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_ar

Re: Spec files in Rawhide using ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches}

2014-04-15 Thread Dan Horák
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 13:32:04 +0100 "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 08:19:11AM -0400, Jens Petersen wrote: > > > > >Some OCaml spec files do the following: > > > > > > > > > > ExclusiveArch: %{ocaml_arches} > > > > > > > > > >This is always incorrect for several reasons: >

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Workstation: Enable Software Collections

2014-04-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
HI On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Tadej Janež wrote: > Does the above refer to the repositories available at > https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/? > Yes. Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Co

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