fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-04-10 Thread Colin Walters
For the fedora-atomic work, the only not-in-Fedora package is shadow-utils because it requires a patch, that still lives in my walters/rpm-ostree COPR. Patch is linked from my post here: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-shadow-devel/2014-March/010099.html Also, some discussion in t

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread J. Randall Owens
On 04/09/2014 12:57 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 12:37 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: >> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Marius A wrote: >>> 1. remove /usr/share/docs >> >> Try this in /etc/rpm/macros.whatever: >> %_excludedocs 1 > > For recent yum it's significantly better t

Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-04-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 17 March 2014 22:02, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2014-03-17 at 09:39 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >> On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 20:07 +, Aaron Gray wrote: >> >> > I am looking for someone to walk me through the Anaconda source as I >> > need to understand it and cannot find where its 'main' i

Re: Help understanding Anaconda source - walk through needed.

2014-04-10 Thread Aaron Gray
On 24 March 2014 19:26, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 07:21:51PM +, Aaron Gray wrote: >> The HP Dl140 G3 has MCA based graphics. F20 seems to be mainly fixed >> apart from MCA based Anaconda, which gets the resolution wrong, the >> screen being too small for the Anaconda gra

[Test-Announce] Rawhide validation testing is now OPEN!

2014-04-10 Thread Adam Williamson
Thanks to everyone for the feedback on the initial proposal to do optional installation and base validation testing for Rawhide nightly builds. I've revised the Installation validation page based on the feedback, and added a similar Base validation page, and I think we can say we're now open for b

Re: Review swap...

2014-04-10 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 09:59:26AM -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote: > Ive got a package review for compat-qpid-cpp [1] and am willing to trade > reviews. > > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1080583 Anybody interested in doing a review swap? -- Darryl L. Pierce http://mcpierce.blo

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 12:05 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) said: > > Not that I assume splitting lanauges and docs. into sub packages would > > triple primary numbers, but if it did ... that would be bad. > > To put it in perspective, if we split out 'lang

Re: New Copr release

2014-04-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Cool! I'll send update for dnf plugin with search function. On Apr 10, 2014 3:15 AM, "Miroslav Suchy" wrote: > Hi, > I just deployed new version of Copr. > https://copr.fedoraproject.org/ > > Changes: > * a lot of small bugfixes > * each src.rpm have separate task now - you can still submit bun

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread Basil Mohamed Gohar
On 04/10/2014 01:23 PM, Peter Oliver wrote: > On 9 April 2014 22:10, Florian Festi wrote: >> >> On 04/09/2014 08:42 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: >>> Given the number of packages that ship localization, this seems like it >>> would have a pretty dramatic effect on metadata size. Is this a concern? >>

Re: ImageMagick 6.8.8-10 in rawhide. Soname change.

2014-04-10 Thread Pavel Alexeev
10.04.2014 05:25, Sérgio Basto пишет: > On Qui, 2014-04-10 at 01:40 +0200, Tadej Janež wrote: >> Hi! >> >> On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 18:30 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: >>> Packages for rebuild: >>> $ repoquery --repoid=rawhide --whatrequires --alldeps ImageMagick\* | >>> fgrep -v 'ImageMagick-' | sort

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-10 Thread P J P
   Hello Chuck, Thank you so much for brining this up. > On Thursday, 10 April 2014 8:12 PM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > I think this needs to be revisited. We need an independent, > system-wide DNS cache, and always point resolv.conf to 127.0.0.1 to > solve this fundamental design problem with how n

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Corey Sheldon wrote: > how stable is the x86 4.9 prerelease? > when building I mean Well... it built a kernel. It possibly built other packages in koji in the meantime. Other than that, I have no idea. josh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org h

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Corey Sheldon
how stable is the x86 4.9 prerelease? when building I mean Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Josh Boyer > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:15 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > wrote: >> >> On 04/10/2014 02:06 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: Hi! FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 04/10/2014 04:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Hi! > > FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to 4.9.0 prerelease, > please visit http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html if your > package no longer builds. To investigate runtime rather than compile time > issues, please consider using temporari

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread Peter Oliver
On 9 April 2014 22:10, Florian Festi wrote: > > On 04/09/2014 08:42 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Given the number of packages that ship localization, this seems like it > > would have a pretty dramatic effect on metadata size. Is this a concern? > > Meta data is a concern. But the major part of

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread Andrew Price
On 10/04/14 17:05, Bill Nottingham wrote: James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) said: Not that I assume splitting lanauges and docs. into sub packages would triple primary numbers, but if it did ... that would be bad. To put it in perspective, if we split out 'langpacks' for apps per langua

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:51:46AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >= Proposed System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images = > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/%28A%29Periodic_Updates_to_Images > Is this perodic updates to just cloud images? If so the title of the > change should proba

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) said: > Not that I assume splitting lanauges and docs. into sub packages would > triple primary numbers, but if it did ... that would be bad. To put it in perspective, if we split out 'langpacks' for apps per language, something like gedit then grows *100*

Re: F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 16:19:37 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/%28A%29Periodic_Updates_to_Images Is this perodic updates to just cloud images? If so the title of the change should probably

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Billy Crook wrote: I don't think pointing resolv.conf at 127.0.0.1 is the right answer for this. The functionality should be implemented as a 'hosts' service to be listed in nsswitch.conf between files and dns. For security reasons, you really want resolv.conf to only poi

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-10 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014, Chuck Anderson wrote: Yesterday, a new version of dnsmasq was released [2] that adds full DNSSEC support and provides an alternative to unbound which dnssec-trigger requires. There has also been great work done to solve the NTP/DNSSEC bootstrap problem [3]. What options ar

Re: default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-10 Thread Billy Crook
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Chuck Anderson wrote: > Back in 2012 there was a discussion about having Fedora default to > using a local DNS caching name server [1]: ... > repeated long application hangs/delays. We need an independent, > system-wide DNS cache, and always point resolv.conf to 1

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:15 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > On 04/10/2014 02:06 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>> FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to 4.9.0 prerelease, >>> please visit http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/por

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: >> Hi! >> >> FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to 4.9.0 prerelease, >> please visit http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html if your >> package no longer builds. To investigate runti

Re: F21 System Wide Change: PHP 5.6

2014-04-10 Thread Remi Collet
Le 08/04/2014 13:57, Miloslav Trmač a écrit : > 2014-04-08 10:58 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: PHP 5.6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Php56 >> > > Contingency mechanism: Wait for 5.6.0RC1 for rawhide import, so we'll, at >> least, ship a RC > > > T

[perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS/f20] Initial import (perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS-2.3404-2)

2014-04-10 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: f40360d... Initial import (perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS-2.3404-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https

F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Ambari

2014-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache Ambari = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheAmbari Change owner(s): Peter MacKinnon Apache Ambari [1] is a cluster management framework and UI for Apache Hadoop. == Detailed Description == The Apache Ambari project is aimed at making Hadoop m

F21 Self Contained Change: Apache Accumulo

2014-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Apache Accumulo = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ApacheAccumulo Change owner(s): Christopher Tubbs The Apache Accumulo [1] is a scalable sorted, distributed, key/value store. == Detailed Description == The Apache Accumulo™ sorted, distributed key/valu

default local DNS caching name server

2014-04-10 Thread Chuck Anderson
Back in 2012 there was a discussion about having Fedora default to using a local DNS caching name server [1]: [1] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/166018 I think this needs to be revisited. While DNSSEC support has historically been a driving factor for implementing this

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 12:23:07PM +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > To investigate runtime rather than compile time > issues, please consider using temporarily -fsanitize=undefined and/or > -fsanitize=address to look for undefined behavior in the packages > you own. Which is this in case anyone else

F21 System Wide Change: Anaconda Support for Server Roles

2014-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: Anaconda Support for Server Roles = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/AnacondaServerRoleSupport Change owner(s): Stephen Gallagher Responsible WG: Server WG The Fedora Server SIG will develop a plug-in for Anaconda to support the deployment of Fedora Server

F21 Self Contained Change: Adopt-Your-Cattle

2014-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Adopt-Your-Cattle = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopt-Your-Cattle Change owner(s): Matthew Miller , Stephen Gallagher Responsible WG: Cloud We provide a smooth path so a Cloud Base Image can be turned into Fedora Server. == Detailed Description

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 23:10 +0200, Florian Festi wrote: > On 04/09/2014 08:42 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Given the number of packages that ship localization, this seems like it > > would have a pretty dramatic effect on metadata size. Is this a concern? > > Meta data is a concern. But the majo

[perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS] Initial import (perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS-2.3404-2)

2014-04-10 Thread Paul Howarth
commit f40360d1204c6f1c4a42374f407c7e99915dbf03 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Apr 10 15:20:44 2014 +0100 Initial import (perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS-2.3404-2) This module converts Perl data structures to JSON and vice versa. Its primary goal is to be correct and its secondary goal is

File Cpanel-JSON-XS-2.3404.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-04-10 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Cpanel-JSON-XS: 6fa33e4f6d5b16bcec62e3340c198437 Cpanel-JSON-XS-2.3404.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

F21 System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images

2014-04-10 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed System Wide Change: (A)Periodic Updates to Images = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/%28A%29Periodic_Updates_to_Images Change owner(s): Cloud WG collectively, with Matthew Miller as point of contact Responsible WG: Cloud We want to be able to release updated images not just a

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/10/2014 02:06 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: Hi! FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to 4.9.0 prerelease, please visit http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html if your package no longer builds. To investigate runtime rather than compile

Re: F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 6:23 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote: > Hi! > > FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to 4.9.0 prerelease, > please visit http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html if your > package no longer builds. To investigate runtime rather than compile time > issues, please consider using

[Bug 1082957] perl does not build with GCC 4.9

2014-04-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1082957 --- Comment #2 from Petr Pisar --- These two tests fail (sometimes) without the patches: t/op/numconvert.t t/op/range.t -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug https://bugzilla.

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread James Antill
On Thu, 2014-04-10 at 10:42 +0300, Marius A wrote: > Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks! > On Fedora 21, any way to apply these before installing to SDD from live usb > image? e.g. open terminal, run fs filter's, then start the install? So the way "yum fs filter" works is to cha

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 16:41 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 03:57:27PM -0400, James Antill wrote: > > For recent yum it's significantly better to do: > > yum fs filter nodocs > > Dito. to get rid of extra languages by: > > yum fs filter langs en > > ...then you can yum fs r

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-10 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-10 Thread Antonio Trande
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 09:53 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 20:45 +0200, Antonio Trande wrote: > >> I don't see the topic about bundled files in Icecat ( >> https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/391). It's still pending. > > AFAIK it's not, if

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Framework for Server Role Deployment

2014-04-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/09/2014 07:28 PM, Rob K wrote: > On 10/04/2014 7:50 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > >> +1 - What are 'server roles'? Are we just reinventing >> Ansible/Puppet/et al here? Yeah, why is someone spending time >> creating a new Fedora-specific configura

libcdr license change

2014-04-10 Thread David Tardon
Hello, libcdr has changed license from GPLv2+ / LGPLv2+ / MPLv1.1 to MPLv2.0 in version 0.0.16. D. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

F21 system GCC changed to 4.9.0 prerelease

2014-04-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
Hi! FYI, gcc in rawhide has been upgraded to 4.9.0 prerelease, please visit http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.9/porting_to.html if your package no longer builds. To investigate runtime rather than compile time issues, please consider using temporarily -fsanitize=undefined and/or -fsanitize=address to look

Re: [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default

2014-04-10 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:20:36PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 02.04.14 09:12, quickbooks office (quickbooks.off...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > [CHANGE PROPOSAL] The securetty file is empty by default > > > > All the info has been sitting here @ > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Chang

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread Miroslav Suchý
On 04/09/2014 09:33 AM, Marius A wrote: Are there any other disk space saving tips? From Debian world: https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org ht

rotated /var/log/journal (was Re: trimming down Fedora installed size)

2014-04-10 Thread Marius A
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > On 04/09/2014 09:33 AM, Marius A wrote: > > 3. cleanup /var/log/journal, which seems it's not automatically rotated > > It's supposed to be automatic. How big did it become on your system? > 600mb. Now in April I still had files from January

Re: trimming down Fedora installed size

2014-04-10 Thread Marius A
On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:57 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2014-04-09 at 12:37 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Marius A wrote: > > > 1. remove /usr/share/docs > > > > Try this in /etc/rpm/macros.whatever: > > %_excludedocs 1 > > For recent yum it's signifi

File MooseX-Types-LoadableClass-0.012.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-04-10 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-MooseX-Types-LoadableClass: 7cc6a67656af0d91fd29c639d6716393 MooseX-Types-LoadableClass-0.012.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Summary/Minutes from Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-04-09)

2014-04-10 Thread Tomas Mraz
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-04-09) === Meeting started by t8m at 18:00:21 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2014-04-09/fesco.2014-04-09-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary -