Ville Skyttä wrote:
> hddtemp is pretty much dead upstream, but the Debian maintainer seems
> to do some work on it occasionally, as did I. I suppose its primary
> use case is the concise output (compared to smartctl) and the daemon
> mode which is used at least by gkrellm.
Also KSensors and at le
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 12:44:42 -0500
Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
> FreeIPA is experiencing build-failure in Koji Rawhide.
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=11554
>
> This is due to -pie being present in the LDFLAGS on rawhide. This in
> turn requires that all code be comp
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 15:19 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:39:32AM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > > I could have sworn we already had something like this where bodhi would
> > > add a link to a wiki page for test plan on a package if that wiki page
> > > existed. I can'
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 20:34 +0100, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > * Although it's certainly not the only reason, Fedora as _solely_ a hobbyist
> >desktop is not ideal for an upstream for RHEL server and cloud products.
>
> No other system can be reinstalled / upgraded every six months.
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On 01/28/2014 06:48 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 28 January 2014 08:23:46 Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> Forwarding this to ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org as well.
>> Responses inline.
>
> As I'm not on the server list (yet), I replied to both l
On Wed, 2014-01-29 at 01:48 +0200, Oron Peled wrote:
> On Tuesday 28 January 2014 08:23:46 Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > Forwarding this to ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org as well. Responses
> > inline.
>
> As I'm not on the server list (yet), I replied to both lists.
> If "devel" should be off this
On Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:48:50 -0500, you wrote:
>On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:40:00PM -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
>> >> If you want to install a c++ compiler you would have to know the exact
>> >> package name of that compiler. There is no way to search for something
>> >> like
>> >> "compiler" with yu
On Tuesday 28 January 2014 08:23:46 Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> Forwarding this to ser...@lists.fedoraproject.org as well. Responses
> inline.
As I'm not on the server list (yet), I replied to both lists.
If "devel" should be off this thread, just remove it in your next reply
and I'll understand t
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Just a FYI, I have reinstalled all our arm and buildvm builders with
fedora 20.
In the process I cleaned up our ansible koji_builder role a great deal.
http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit/ansible.git/tree/roles/koji_builder
I ran into two issues:
1) The arm builders would hang on boo
On 19 Nov 2013, at 9:51 pm, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:22:42AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> Several packages are using git for patch management. eg:
>>
>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/erlang.git/tree/erlang.spec#n46
>> http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:40:00PM -0800, Josh Stone wrote:
> >> If you want to install a c++ compiler you would have to know the exact
> >> package name of that compiler. There is no way to search for something like
> >> "compiler" with yum (AFAIK).
> > "yum search compiler"
> ... which lists a lo
On 01/28/2014 12:51 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Andreas Tunek
> wrote:
>> If you want to install a c++ compiler you would have to know the exact
>> package name of that compiler. There is no way to search for something like
>> "compiler" with yum (AFAIK).
>
> "yum searc
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 01:53:56PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
> Cool. If I was to take this one step further then, an issue for Fedora
> Jam is we were limited in the customisations the could be made for a
> spin (e.g. defaulting users into certain groups to allow real time
> audio). While there's no
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 09:11:08PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> > I wasn't being dismissive. I have seen no plans to alter the core of
> > how Fedora, at a package level, is built. In fact, if I did see a
> > proposal that said "we're not going to ship repositories or RPMs" I'd
> > be pretty d
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:00:25PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> > Right now, the version of Python installed has to be the version that is
> > required for code in the base -- yum or dnf at the very least, possibly
> > puppet or chef, maybe firewalld or cloud-init. If your code isn't
> > Python3-ready w
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing:
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5
137
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11560/fail2ban-0.8.10-4.el5
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The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5620/bugzilla-3.4.14-2.el6
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https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:58:55PM -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> The biggest things I can see from Fedora.Next is working on solving 1,2,3
> by making it easier and faster to either port or carry your own versions of
> the apps you need and making as much of the OS 'metric' as possible so th
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 11:20:33AM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> I for one waited (and still wait) for a text that gives a brief
> overview; something like a four or five para text which outlines the
> consequences and how Fedora will look like in the end. Something easy to
> understand; so eas
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 07:04:52PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
>> This is again "hand wavy"(sorry for overusing this term). I can
>> already have multiple language stacks
>> for instance python, java, ruby and php on fedora (or pretty much any
>>
On 28 January 2014 13:38, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 08:34:23PM +0100, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> > >* Although it's certainly not the only reason, Fedora as _solely_ a
> > > hobbyist desktop is not ideal for an upstream for RHEL server and
> > > cloud products.
> > No o
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:16:40PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > I will be giving a talk on Sunday, February 9th in at DevConf in Brno,
> > CZ, and I'll post slides from that (probably here as text as well), and
> > I assume there will be video.
> That's great (I'll be there; Fosdem as well),
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:28 PM, Andreas Tunek wrote:
>
>
>
> 2014-01-28 Matthew Miller
>
>>
>> I'm not sure I'm convinced. If someone is on the command line, isn't it
>> easiest to use a command-line tool to install those kinds of things?
>>
>
> If you want to install a c++ compiler you would ha
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 08:34:23PM +0100, Robert M. Albrecht wrote:
> >* Although it's certainly not the only reason, Fedora as _solely_ a
> > hobbyist desktop is not ideal for an upstream for RHEL server and
> > cloud products.
> No other system can be reinstalled / upgraded every six months.
2014-01-28 Richard Hughes
> That's not the tool we've designed and built. We've built a GUI
> application installer, not a package installer.
>
>
That is awesome! Thank you! But in a lot of cases it is very nice to have a
GUI package installer.
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2014-01-28 Matthew Miller
>
> I'm not sure I'm convinced. If someone is on the command line, isn't it
> easiest to use a command-line tool to install those kinds of things?
>
>
If you want to install a c++ compiler you would have to know the exact
package name of that compiler. There is no way to
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:39:32AM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > I could have sworn we already had something like this where bodhi would
> > add a link to a wiki page for test plan on a package if that wiki page
> > existed. I can't seem to find it now, so perhaps it was just something
> > we ta
On 28 January 2014 18:43, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to the
> latter, I think it's a mistake to have a primary application installation
> tool that only deals with GUI apps, because it relegates text-based tools,
> such as 'units
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 01:43:09PM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> There are two separate issues here: 'abandonment', and 'GUIness'. As to
> the latter, I think it's a mistake to have a primary application
> installation tool that only deals with GUI apps, because it relegates
> text-based tools,
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 07:04:52PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> This is again "hand wavy"(sorry for overusing this term). I can
> already have multiple language stacks
> for instance python, java, ruby and php on fedora (or pretty much any
> other distribution) just fine today.
> And I don't expect it t
On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 19:24 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 10:39 +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 15:11 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> > > On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 10:18:56 -0500
> > > Matthew Miller wrote:
> > >
> > > snip
> > >
> > > > * possibly ad
Hi,
I've released ownership of hddtemp (Fedora and EPEL) and vdradmin-am
(Fedora) in pkgdb. Both packages are in a good shape, I just don't
have use for them any more myself.
hddtemp is pretty much dead upstream, but the Debian maintainer seems
to do some work on it occasionally, as did I. I supp
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 19:04 +0100, drago01 wrote:
> > Second, give people what they *do* care about: choices of language stacks
> > above the base level, and a layer of separation so that there isn't a big
> > impact when the base layer changes. To quote someone I talked to: No
> > distribution doe
Hi,
what is a role? Is database-server a usefull role?
Or would that go more to owncloud-server or joomla-server ...
This would then pull all packages in.
And if Owncloud supports several databases, Fedora should make a choice
and install only one of them. A user which cares so deeply to make
Hi,
* Although it's certainly not the only reason, Fedora as _solely_ a hobbyist
desktop is not ideal for an upstream for RHEL server and cloud products.
No other system can be reinstalled / upgraded every six months. That
single fact IMHO kills all other use cases.
If I need a stable Fe
On 28 January 2014 07:42, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> * General trend in Linux towards the base distribution being "boring" and
> not mattering. I asked several dozen different people at a gigantic
> Amazon
> conference why everyone was using the distribution they chose instead of
> Fedora, a
On 01/25/2014 05:08 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
I can think
of several programs that I use daily that are simple enough so that there's
not much development happening to them. For example, the 'units' program,
which I showed recently to some mechanical engineers who use Linux and they
went 'OMG t
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-01-28)
Meeting started by mmaslano at 16:05:47 UTC (full logs).
Meeting summary
modify PRD (mmaslano, 16:08:04)
commetns from ticket https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1224
(mmaslano, 16:08:26)
AGREED: New vision: "The Fedora Environm
On 28/01/14 17:33, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 03:33:43PM +, Tom Hughes wrote:
>
I think the reason that people have trouble defining what "Fedora
Server" might mean is that it simply doesn't make a huge amount of
sense as a thing.
Yes, that has traditionally been the s
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:19:38PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
>> You forgot the part where you explain how / why Fedora.next solves all
>> this issues. Some like "cloud and server usage" is more or less clear
>> (focus product) but the rest is a
On 01/28/2014 05:55 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Yeah, what? I'm not sure if that's lack of coffee or if I can blame my
computer in some way. I think that was supposed to be "That leaves little
room to" or something like that.
As for what I think... I expect the working groups will work with the Q
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:44:34AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > And that's reasonable. But as we have defined Fedora server as "not
> > > anything in particular", that drifts closer and closer to "not a
> > > thing". That leaves define release criteria -- let alone blockers.
> > Why do you t
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:19:38PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> You forgot the part where you explain how / why Fedora.next solves all
> this issues. Some like "cloud and server usage" is more or less clear
> (focus product) but the rest is a bot hand weavy. For instance why
> should any of the changes
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 09:44 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Matthew's sentence does not parse grammatically at all, which makes it
> hard for me to figure out what I'm saying,
"what he's saying", I meant. Good grief, my fingers and brain are not
connected this morning.
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FreeIPA is experiencing build-failure in Koji Rawhide.
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=11554
This is due to -pie being present in the LDFLAGS on rawhide. This in
turn requires that all code be compiled with -fPIC, which is not
normally required for simple executables. Nor
On Tue, 2014-01-28 at 17:40 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 01/28/2014 05:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > And that's reasonable. But as we have defined Fedora server as "not anything
> > in particular", that drifts closer and closer to "not a thing". That leaves
> > define release crite
On 01/28/2014 05:33 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
And that's reasonable. But as we have defined Fedora server as "not anything
in particular", that drifts closer and closer to "not a thing". That leaves
define release criteria -- let alone blockers.
Why do you think we in QA are going to be defin
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 03:33:43PM +, Tom Hughes wrote:
> I think the reason that people have trouble defining what "Fedora
> Server" might mean is that it simply doesn't make a huge amount of
> sense as a thing.
Yes, that has traditionally been the stumbling block. But have you looked at
what
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 04:19:38PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> > So that's some of my thoughts. More later -- gotta take the kids to the
> > dentist now. :)
> You forgot the part where you explain how / why Fedora.next solves all
> this issues. Some like "cloud and server usage" is more or less clear
>
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 09:42:54AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> So, here's some things I see.
Oh, I forgot one...
* There is a lot of excitement about containers right now. It's not a new
idea, but one where a lot of things have come together to make
containerization interesting and viable
On 28/01/14 14:42, Matthew Miller wrote:
* Fedora's drift towards being primarily a desktop OS (with other use areas
considered secondarily if at all) ends up practically restricting uses
which people really do want Fedora for. That's bad for people who want to
use Fedora in innovative
On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> [...]
> So that's some of my thoughts. More later -- gotta take the kids to the
> dentist now. :)
You forgot the part where you explain how / why Fedora.next solves all
this issues. Some like "cloud and server usage" is more or less clear
(
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:39:53PM +0100, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> Understood, but OTOH it makes me wonder if Fedora.next is a step to
> big and needs to be split or something.
Well, in practical implementation, it probably _will_ be done as incremental
steps. For example, there's the possibilit
On 01/28/2014 02:48 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
WG meeting will be at 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on Freenode.
== Topic ==
PRD was approved by FESCo.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Product_Requirements_Document
But need to add comments from the ticket:
https://fedorahosted.org/
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1057518
Petr Šabata changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
Fixed In Version|
WG meeting will be at 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting on Freenode.
== Topic ==
PRD was approved by FESCo.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Env_and_Stacks/Product_Requirements_Document
But need to add comments from the ticket:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1224
And comments from FESCo meeting
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inline.
On 01/27/2014 07:35 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>
> On Monday 27 January 2014 14:01:32 Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> ... or some mechanism to interactively configure and deploy a
>
On 01/28/2014 11:59 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 01/21/2014 09:02 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
We're releasing 0.4.12 today. See all the information at the usual
places: blog [1], release notes [2] and f20 update [3].
I see persistent download failures on F20. Specifying "-v -d 255" does
not pr
Hi,
THAT would be worhty of being called Fedora.Next .
cu romal
Am 28.01.14 01:35, schrieb Oron Peled:
On Monday 27 January 2014 14:01:32 Stephen Gallagher wrote:
...
or some mechanism to interactively configure and deploy a DHCP server.
IMO, that's exactly the crux of the matter. Most no
On 01/28/2014 12:20 PM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 28 January 2014 10:59, Florian Weimer wrote:
I see persistent download failures on F20.
[FAILED] texlive-sauerj-svn15878.0-4.fc20.noarch.rpm: No more mirrors to try
- All mirrors were already tried without success
Same here using librepo direct
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On 01/28/2014 10:59 AM, Maros Zatko wrote:
On 01/16/2014 12:54 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:
On 01/14/2014 07:12 PM, Maros Zatko wrote:
On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:
What's the point ?
Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people.
There's absolutely no benefit in
On 28 January 2014 10:59, Florian Weimer wrote:
> I see persistent download failures on F20.
> [FAILED] texlive-sauerj-svn15878.0-4.fc20.noarch.rpm: No more mirrors to try
> - All mirrors were already tried without success
Same here using librepo directly. I think it's a librepo bug rather
than a
On 01/21/2014 09:02 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote:
We're releasing 0.4.12 today. See all the information at the usual
places: blog [1], release notes [2] and f20 update [3].
I see persistent download failures on F20. Specifying "-v -d 255" does
not provide any additional debugging information why
On 01/16/2014 12:54 PM, Martin Stransky wrote:
On 01/14/2014 07:12 PM, Maros Zatko wrote:
On 01/14/2014 03:38 PM, H. Guémar wrote:
What's the point ?
Personally, it's mainly about not throwing gnome 3 HIG at people.
There's absolutely no benefit in keeping Gtk+2 longer.
Gtk+ 2.24.0 has been r
On 28 January 2014 07:05, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 22:48 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 11:52 +, Ian Malone wrote:
>> > On 27 January 2014 05:36, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> > > On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Hi,
>> >
On 28 January 2014 06:48, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-01-27 at 11:52 +, Ian Malone wrote:
>> On 27 January 2014 05:36, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> > On 01/27/2014 05:08 AM, Christopher Meng wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Here is an interesting package icecat[1], which is a "more fr
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