On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 01:15 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > So, um, you think that because we've done three big changes in the past
> > that means we won't ever do another again? I'm not quite sure how that
> > logic works.
>
> We've already broken the distro 3 times, that'
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 02:56:14PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> > I'm a little lost in the thread, but do you mean that yum's protected
> > packages functionality is undocumented? If that is what you mean, check the
> > man page. It says:
> >
>
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On 01/06/2014 12:53 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> Happy new year. A great time to clean up sources files. ;)
>
> Here's attached another run of my sources/patches url checker.
> Please fix any packages you are responsible for in rawhide, and
> other branc
The 'satyr' package in Rawhide was bumped from 0.12 to 0.13 yesterday.
This bumps the library's soname from libsatyr.so.2 to libsatyr.so.3 .
This was not announced on devel@, as it is supposed to be (or the person
doing the bump must immediately handle rebuilds of all dependent
packages).
abrt and
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>> /usr/bin/Xorg is, and has been, setuid-root just about forever. I'm
>> wondering whether there's any good reason for it to remain
>> setuid-root.
> [...]
>> - Xorg is a g
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> /usr/bin/Xorg is, and has been, setuid-root just about forever. I'm
> wondering whether there's any good reason for it to remain
> setuid-root.
[...]
> - Xorg is a giant attack surface. Without setuid-root, only users
> sitting
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:05:32 -0700
Jerry James wrote:
> > jjames:BADSOURCE:networkx_reference.pdf:python-networkx
> > jjames:BADSOURCE:networkx_tutorial.pdf:python-networkx
> > jjames:BADSOURCE:networkx-documentation.zip:python-networkx
>
>
> I can't reproduce this. A fresh download of these fi
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> I could have sworn there was a more recent discussion of this, but
> there is at least this thread from 2009:
>
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2009-August/036086.html
>
> Also:
>
> http://lwn.net/Articles/546537/
>
> (discussi
I could have sworn there was a more recent discussion of this, but
there is at least this thread from 2009:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2009-August/036086.html
Also:
http://lwn.net/Articles/546537/
(discussion about the last revoke() discussion on linux-kernel).
kevin
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>> /usr/bin/Xorg is, and has been, setuid-root just about forever. I'm
>> wondering whether there's any good reason for it to remain
>> setuid-root.
>
> http://fedoraproject.
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:14:08PM -0800, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> /usr/bin/Xorg is, and has been, setuid-root just about forever. I'm
> wondering whether there's any good reason for it to remain
> setuid-root.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/XorgWithoutRootRights
Cheers,
Peter
>
>
On 12 Dec 2013, at 2:40 pm, Digimer wrote:
> On 11/12/13 06:36, Christopher Meng wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I wonder if there are some reasonable explanations of package
>> "pacemaker" in the repo.
>>
>> I checked the package and the result returned is:
>>
>> Fedora: pacemaker-1.1.9-3.fc20 in ra
Thanks to those that were able to join us for the status meeting today, for
those unable the minutes are posted below:
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-01-08/fedora-meeting-1.2014-01-08-21.01.html
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1
/usr/bin/Xorg is, and has been, setuid-root just about forever. I'm
wondering whether there's any good reason for it to remain
setuid-root.
Some arguments for setuid-root:
- People who still use startx or similar scripts need it.
- It's vaguely useful for testing xorg.conf changes.
Some argume
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 21:05 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
> On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 10:03 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > > which one of those 11 files, exactly, should we have packages use when?
> > > > When I came up against this situation recently I threw a dart and
> > > > picked /etc/pki/tls/cert
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2014-01-09 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
irc.freenode.net.
Local time information (via. rktime):
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2014-01-09 1
On Wed, 1 Jan 2014 18:09:32 +0400
Peter Lemenkov wrote:
> Matthias seems to stop his participation in Fedora ~1 year ago:
>
> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/tasks?owner=thias&state=all
>
> Dave, I think you should be granted a primary maintainer status for
> EasyTAG.
I mailed Matthias toda
On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 10:03 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > which one of those 11 files, exactly, should we have packages use when?
> > > When I came up against this situation recently I threw a dart and
> > > picked /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt , but I'm hardly certain.
> >
> > The manual
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On 01/08/2014 02:57 PM, Kai Engert wrote:
> On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 13:38 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> I don't really see this being more likely than an existing
>> application just bundling a wrapper script for certificate
>> generation and 'update
On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 13:38 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> I don't really see this being more likely than an existing application
> just bundling a wrapper script for certificate generation and
> 'update-ca-extract' and quietly running that as part of %post. Just as
> easy to miss and equally ef
Thanks Adam, that was the reference I was looking for.
Cheers,
Tim
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> From: "Adam Williamson"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:41 PM
> Subject: Re: libev - bundling - "expected"
>
> On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 1
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said:
> I'm a little lost in the thread, but do you mean that yum's protected
> packages functionality is undocumented? If that is what you mean, check the
> man page. It says:
>
> protected_packages This is a list of packages that yum should
> nev
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 01:43:01PM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> >hence that is why whatever calls itself a replacement for yum should *not*
> >support destroy the running system without whatever *force switch*
> I don't like the weird partial functionality of this feature. It is
> apparently u
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 13:09 -0500, Tim St Clair wrote:
> Greetings folks -
>
> It appears that I've run into a conundrum: libev upstream developer(s)
> actually encourage (re)bundling of libev, see -
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049554
>
> I was wondering if there was preside
===
#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-01-08)
===
Meeting started by t8m at 18:01:33 UTC. The full logs are available at
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.
Meeting summary
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:43 PM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> Another point: it shouldn't be hardwired into the package manager but
> rather result from package properties. I can see several ways to do it:
> - an 'essentiality' property in the RPM file
> - a yum/dnf configuration file specifying a
Happy New Year!
Please join us today (Wednesday, January 8th) at 4PM EST (9PM UTC)
for the Fedora ARM status meeting in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode.
On the agenda so far..
1) Aarch64 - Status Update
- Problem Packages
2) F21 - Hardware Support Goals
- Installation Images
On 01/05/2014 08:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
"yum remove kernel" is a clean and sane way to remove all but not the running
kernels
"distribute-command.sh 'yum -y remove kernel'" is used here for years on a ton
of machines
why do you think that a *replacement* should come up not support this?
w
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On 01/08/2014 12:54 PM, Kai Engert wrote:
> On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 12:32 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> but what about package-specific CAs? For example, I have a
>> pattern I was thinking about adding to the tog-pegasus that
>> causes it to do the f
Greetings folks -
It appears that I've run into a conundrum: libev upstream developer(s) actually
encourage (re)bundling of libev, see -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1049554
I was wondering if there was president for how to handle *this. In groking the
code, it's not run-time
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 18:56 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
> On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 09:16 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > Packages, that would like to use a default list of CA certificates,
> > > should be changed to use (consume) the new consolidated data that we
> > > provide as part of SharedSystem
On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 09:16 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Packages, that would like to use a default list of CA certificates,
> > should be changed to use (consume) the new consolidated data that we
> > provide as part of SharedSystemCertificates.
>
> This could do with some specifics:
>
> [a
On Mi, 2014-01-08 at 12:32 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> but what about
> package-specific CAs? For example, I have a pattern I was thinking
> about adding to the tog-pegasus that causes it to do the following:
>
> 1. Create an x509v3 certificate and key with the CA extension
> 2. Create a ne
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On 01/08/2014 12:05 PM, Kai Engert wrote:
> On Mi, 2013-12-11 at 09:59 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
>> Last night someone asked me about a package that they were
>> working on that had a pem file in it. Looking closer, it seems
>> that the pem file i
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 18:05 +0100, Kai Engert wrote:
> On Mi, 2013-12-11 at 09:59 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> > Last night someone asked me about a package that they were working on that
> > had a pem file in it. Looking closer, it seems that the pem file is
> > a cacert bundle. Looking arou
On Mi, 2013-12-11 at 09:59 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Last night someone asked me about a package that they were working on that
> had a pem file in it. Looking closer, it seems that the pem file is
> a cacert bundle. Looking around, there's not currently documentation on
> what to do with
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 02:14:43 -0500
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Hi
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> >
> > Well, we'll want to do all sorts of tests that aren't obviously
> > tied to any specific package. The only kinds of tests it would make
> > sense to have in packages
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-B-Hooks-EndOfScope:
6cdaaa88a39054cd13aacad7bd2171da B-Hooks-EndOfScope-0.13.tar.gz
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On 01/07/2014 12:28 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
I recalled that
we'd had some kind of issue with the mkconfig/install ordering before
while I was writing the patch, indeed, but I couldn't recall if it was
mkconfig sometimes requiring install to ha
This should be obviously yesterday meeting minutes.
On 01/07/2014 03:54 PM, Marcela Mašláňová wrote:
#fedora-meeting: env and stacks (2014-01-07)
Meeting started by mmaslano at 13:00:41 UTC. The full logs
Hi,
I'd like to announce that the schedule of Developer Conference 2014,
which also includes Fedora Day this year, is out:
http://devconf.cz/schedule
It features around 100 speakers of almost 20 nationalities that will
have 68 talks and 30 workshops and labs.
What may be especially interesting to
On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 03:12:08PM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote:
> On 08/01/14 14:27, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
>
> > The problem is that it's been HOURS and Git hasn't finished cloning the
> > tree.
>
> > It's the third step which is taking forever to complete. I left it to
> > run overnight (10 hou
On 08/01/14 14:27, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> The problem is that it's been HOURS and Git hasn't finished cloning the
> tree.
> It's the third step which is taking forever to complete. I left it to
> run overnight (10 hours) and it never finished. I paused it, came to
> work, resumed it and it's s
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On Wed, Jan 08, 2014 at 02:38:14PM +0100, Dan Horák wrote:
> in my experience it can take hours to clone large SVN repos (similar
> to 13k revisions in audacity), I usually use
> git svn clone --stdlayout
> but it should be equivalent to your procedure
>
> somewhere under .git you should see a fi
On Wed, 8 Jan 2014 08:27:42 -0500
"Darryl L. Pierce" wrote:
> I recently took over package maintenance for Audacity. So the first
> thing I want to do is clone their development tree, create a branch
> from the latest release and star tracking patches against it as
> needed. The Audacity team use
I recently took over package maintenance for Audacity. So the first
thing I want to do is clone their development tree, create a branch from
the latest release and star tracking patches against it as needed. The
Audacity team uses Subversion, while I prefer Git, so I attempted to use
Git to clone t
Hi
I posted a week ago about the non-responsive easytag package maintainer
(thias, Matthias Saou):
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1044029
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2014-January/193301.html
Based on Peter Lemenkov’s reply, it seems that the maintainer has not
Hello everyone,
The Fedora 20 GA release for the IBM System z is here. This time again
a few weeks later than the primary release mainly because of me being
on vacation (again :-)) during the December holidays. The difference to
primary Fedora is this time a bit larger than it was in Fedora 19 for
On 7 January 2014 19:31, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
> Looking at the lookaside cache directly, it looks like that file has been
> uploaded previously (in lookaside, there's currently two tarballs for
> dkms-2.2.0.3.tar.gz with two separate md5sums).
>
Thanks, who was mantaining it before me uploaded
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Wednesday (today) at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.
To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto
or run:
date -d '-MM-DD HH:MM UTC'
Links to all tick
Hello, I'm going to build new cfitsio 3.360 in Rawhide. This involves a
soname bump.
You can see the changes here
http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/FTP/software/fitsio/c/docs/changes.txt
and more detailed information about the changes here:
http://upstream-tracker.org/versions/cfitsio.html
The aff
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