On Saturday 27 July 2013 18:36:23 Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 01:12:25PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> > On the other hand, aliasing root to the installing user in /etc/aliases
> > is trivial and adding the local spool mailbox as a default to MUA's
> > would make these mails *vis
On 7/28/2013 1:40 AM, Dave Quigley wrote:
On 7/26/2013 6:55 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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On 07/25/2013 06:45 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
On 25 Jul 2013 19:55, "Daniel J Walsh" mailto:dwa...@redhat.com>> wrote:
The only provisos/additions I could su
On 7/26/2013 6:55 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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On 07/25/2013 06:45 PM, James Hogarth wrote:
On 25 Jul 2013 19:55, "Daniel J Walsh" mailto:dwa...@redhat.com>> wrote:
The only provisos/additions I could suggest on the above then is to make
it clear
On Sun, 2013-07-28 at 00:10 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Lars Seipel wrote:
> > The thing is: is it acceptable that, in the process of reaching that
> > goal, we end up alienating (a part of) the more technical userbase (who
> > are much more likely contributors)?
>
>
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 03:30:19PM -0400, Subhendu Ghosh wrote:
> The app provider should fix their version of libxml
The problem is: they don't. Walk up to some random Windows machine and
look how many vulnerable copies of zlib (or some other popular library)
you can find. Aside from maybe Google
On 7/27/2013 6:31 PM, David wrote:
> On 7/27/2013 6:10 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Lars Seipel wrote:
>>> The thing is: is it acceptable that, in the process of reaching that
>>> goal, we end up alienating (a part of) the more technical userbase (who
>>> are much more l
On 7-27-13 12:11:03 Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 12:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> > so i am maintaing more than 20 fedora machines
>
> The typical user will have exactly one Fedora desktop.
/me counts my desktop systems. 1. Check.
> He will never
> ever look at his sy
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Lars Seipel wrote:
> The thing is: is it acceptable that, in the process of reaching that
> goal, we end up alienating (a part of) the more technical userbase (who
> are much more likely contributors)?
No one is alienating anyone. A "technical" user knows what he
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:55:58PM +0200, drago01 wrote:
> Which excludes you from the type of user I was talking about.
I have no data to back this up but I'd guess that the vast majority of
Fedora's userbase _are_ technical users. It's certainly a noble goal to
make Fedora more accesible to non-
On Jul 27, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>
> Well, I am pretty sure the burden must be on the file systems to report
> a useful estimate free blocks value in statfs()/statvfs().
tl;dr
4 VMs, each using one thinp LV. Each LV has a virtualsize of 1TB. The VG
backing those LVs is
Le samedi 27 juillet 2013 à 12:54 +0200, Reindl Harald a écrit :
>
> Am 27.07.2013 12:45, schrieb drago01:
> > On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
> >>> Even if we do that ... for most of those user this mails are mostly noise.
> >>
> >> Where are the facts backing this assertion?
>
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 06:25:57PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I also appreciate this will not be easy with the sheer variety of
> underlying storage. Also the problem is not well-defined: What
> happens if the underlying storage is storing two guests, and either of
> them could grow to the
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 01:12:25PM +0300, Oron Peled wrote:
> On the other hand, aliasing root to the installing user in /etc/aliases
> is trivial and adding the local spool mailbox as a default to MUA's
> would make these mails *visible by default* to that user.
Really? I'd expect most users to
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 07:02:41PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 26.07.13 21:29, Eric Sandeen (sand...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On 7/26/13 3:13 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > > Hello all,
> > > with thin provisioning available, the total and free space values
> > > reported by a filesyste
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 12:54 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> so i am maintaing more than 20 fedora machines
The typical user will have exactly one Fedora desktop. He will never
ever look at his system logs. If you told him that his computer can send
him email, his head would explode.
You can yum
On Fri, 26.07.13 21:29, Eric Sandeen (sand...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 7/26/13 3:13 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > with thin provisioning available, the total and free space values
> > reported by a filesystem do not necessarily mean that that much space
> > is _actually_ available (t
On Fri, 26.07.13 22:13, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote:
> Hello all,
> with thin provisioning available, the total and free space values
> reported by a filesystem do not necessarily mean that that much space
> is _actually_ available (the actual backing storage may be smaller, or
> shared w
On Sat, 2013-07-27 at 18:23 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 26.07.13 15:03, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
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> > On 07/26/2013 02:52 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Fri, 26.07.13 14:32, Stephen Gallagher (
On Fri, 26.07.13 15:03, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com) wrote:
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> On 07/26/2013 02:52 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Fri, 26.07.13 14:32, Stephen Gallagher (sgall...@redhat.com)
> > wrote:
> >
> >> As Simo noted in the other thread
Am 27.07.2013 12:45, schrieb drago01:
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
>>> Even if we do that ... for most of those user this mails are mostly noise.
>>
>> Where are the facts backing this assertion?
>
> Common sense ...
so i am maintaing more than 20 fedora machines and i a
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> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:31:25 PM
> Subject: Re: RFC: Proposal for a more agile "Fedora.next" (draft of my Flock
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> On the other hand some projects might benefit from stable Ri
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
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>
> Am 27.07.2013 12:45, schrieb drago01:
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
Even if we do that ... for most of those user this mails are mostly noise.
>>>
>>> Where are the facts backing this assertion?
>>
>> Common s
On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
wrote:
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> Le Sam 27 juillet 2013 12:23, drago01 a écrit :
>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Friday 26 July 2013 08:06:10 drago01 wrote:
Well it is a desktop spin after all. Most of the "keep sendma
On 07/27/2013 12:36 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
Le samedi 27 juillet 2013 à 11:31 +0200, Brendan Jones a écrit :
Is it even feasible to use the Fedora Java/JBOSS stack unless you are an
existing customer?
There is no customer for Fedora, so I am not sure to fully follow you.
And last time I t
Le Sam 27 juillet 2013 12:23, drago01 a écrit :
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Friday 26 July 2013 08:06:10 drago01 wrote:
>>> Well it is a desktop spin after all. Most of the "keep sendmail and
>>> syslog" arguments where more server related things.
>>
>
Le samedi 27 juillet 2013 à 11:31 +0200, Brendan Jones a écrit :
> Is it even feasible to use the Fedora Java/JBOSS stack unless you are an
> existing customer?
There is no customer for Fedora, so I am not sure to fully follow you.
And last time I tested, ovirt was working on fedora, so jboss
On 07/23/2013 08:38 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote:
I've found it very hard to find the right place to jump into this
discussion.
So, I'll just put out some of my own thoughts about what I want to see
out of Fedora, and then point out how I think this matches or contrasts
with Matts proposal.
Fedora
Hi!
The License tag of the xrootd package ha changed from BSD to LGPLv3+ due
to an upstream license change.
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On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Oron Peled wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On Friday 26 July 2013 08:06:10 drago01 wrote:
>> Well it is a desktop spin after all. Most of the "keep sendmail and
>> syslog" arguments where more server related things.
>
> Definitely not. On our desktop installs we clearly have a
Hi,
On Friday 26 July 2013 08:06:10 drago01 wrote:
> Well it is a desktop spin after all. Most of the "keep sendmail and
> syslog" arguments where more server related things.
Definitely not. On our desktop installs we clearly have an interactive
user which is defined during install/firstboot/etc
On the other hand some projects might benefit from stable Ring0, 1, which
wouldn't change unexpectedly.
No one said that stuff should change "unexpectedly" (and that's not
what currently happens either).
Beg to differ. There are lots of asynchronous dep changes (typically
version upgrades) i
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