[Test-Announce] NetworkManager Test Day today/tomorrow! (2013-06-04)

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Heading into the last week of F19 Test Days, tomorrow is NetworkManager Test Day! The page for the event is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-06-04_Network_Manager There will be QA folks and NM devs on hand in #fedora-test-day on Freenode IRC, and there are full test instructions on t

Re: Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time

2013-06-03 Thread Tony Breeds
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 06:07:59PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Whether this is a blocker or not comes down to a judgement call, because > it hinges on whether this is a significant inconvenience for a large > enough number of users. So we need to know from people who use Fedora in > remote aut

Re: Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Boswell II
Don't mess with teachers.  They have tenure. :-) From: Adam Williamson To: Development discussions related to Fedora Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 7:04 PM Subject: Re: Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 19:02 -0700, Ada

Re: Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 19:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > But yes, in F19 Beta it was broken in g-i-s too, but soon it should not > be. But we have a fully-supported paths... excuse me just one second, I hear the doorbell... ... oh, dear. It seems to be my high school English teacher, holding

Re: Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 21:53 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 18:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > As things stand, in Fedora 19, it's basically impossible to configure > > remote authentication from the install/firstboot process. If you want to > > use remote auth, you'd

Re: Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time

2013-06-03 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 18:07 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > As things stand, in Fedora 19, it's basically impossible to configure > remote authentication from the install/firstboot process. If you want to > use remote auth, you'd have to create a local user first and then do it > using whatever to

Call for Bikeshedding: remote auth at install time

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
We all know what devel@ does best, so let's fire up the power of the bikeshedding machine :) We had https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965883 on the list of release blocker candidates that we evaluated at the blocker review meeting this morning. Attendance at blocker reviews is pretty spo

FreeIPA Two Factor Authentication test day

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Forwarding for the FreeIPA Team: --- The FreeIPA team is happy to welcome you to a Fedora Test Day that is being held on Thursday, June 6th. We invite you to take part in testing of the new OTP authentication feature that will become available in upcoming FreeI

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 11:13 -0700, Dan Mashal wrote: > Does not seem to take spins in to account. Well, there's always been a separate process for proposing, reviewing and accepting spins; you could have a 'publicity feature' for 'there is this new spin in FXX', but the actual work of reviewing a

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
> > The latter :-) Thanks Bill, Rahul. Sorry for this noise. Note to self: *Read* the goddamn email completely (especially at 01:00 AM) before hitting the send! -- /kashyap -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Dan Mashal
Hi, On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > A rule of thumb: If _only_ the owners of the change need to be involved or > informed, it is "self-contained". (This can be either because the change is > so small, e.g. update of a single package, or because the number owners is > so

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote: > > Tom/Anyone: > > Is it purposeful to not have presenter's name next to each talk's Abstract > ? Or is it a > limitation of the talk proposal system ? Or am I just terribly blind ? > The latter :-) Rahul -- devel mailing list dev

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:04 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > What is a system wide change vs a self contained change vs a new change? > There are two categories only: "self-contained" and "system-wide". A rule of thumb: If _only_ the owners of the change need to be involved or informed, it is "self-cont

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Kashyap Chamarthy (kcham...@redhat.com) said: > Tom/Anyone: > > Is it purposeful to not have presenter's name next to each talk's Abstract ? > Or is it a > limitation of the talk proposal system ? Or am I just terribly blind ? From the message you quoted: ... These submissions are mostly anon

Re: Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Kashyap Chamarthy
On 06/03/2013 10:06 PM, Tom Callaway wrote: > Thanks to the Fedora Community for submitting 125 awesome talks, > hackfests, sprints and workshops for Flock, our new contributor conference! > > We've taken those submissions and put them in the Fedora Elections web > application, and now, it is time

Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-06-03 Thread Axilleas Pipinellis
On 06/03/2013 12:52 AM, seth vidal wrote: > - gitlab has(had?) no such concept of public repositories so the idea > of someone forking and contributing a patch was not even in the system Just a quick note on that. In v5.2 (released this month) there was introduced a new feature wherelogged-in use

Re: Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Dan Mashal
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Hi! > Fedora 19 is close (let's hope it's alive) to the release and it's > again the time to start planning for the upcoming version. > > For Fedora 20, in coordination with FESCo [1], the new Planning process > was developed to replace the

Self introduction - Axilleas Pipinellis

2013-06-03 Thread Axilleas Pipinellis
Hello guys! My name is Axilleas Pipinellis, an undergraduate from Athens Greece, and I will be joining the packagers team:) My primary goal is to package some (many :p ) Ruby gems and ultimately GitLab [0], as this is a project that got accepted in this year's Google Summer of Code. You can find

Fedora 20 new planning process and schedules

2013-06-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! Fedora 19 is close (let's hope it's alive) to the release and it's again the time to start planning for the upcoming version. For Fedora 20, in coordination with FESCo [1], the new Planning process was developed to replace the old, not satisfactory Feature process. In reality, it's pretty si

Flock proposals now open for community voting

2013-06-03 Thread Tom Callaway
Thanks to the Fedora Community for submitting 125 awesome talks, hackfests, sprints and workshops for Flock, our new contributor conference! We've taken those submissions and put them in the Fedora Elections web application, and now, it is time for you to give us your feedback. These proposals hav

Bug cloning considered harmful

2013-06-03 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks. Just wanted to throw out a random note on something that often irks me. Next time you're thinking about cloning a bug: think twice. I've found that it's rarely the case that cloning a bug is really the right thing to do. When you clone a bug: * The new bug gets the exact same summary

Re: Bug cloning considered harmful

2013-06-03 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 6/3/13 11:06 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi, folks. Just wanted to throw out a random note on something that > often irks me. > > Next time you're thinking about cloning a bug: think twice. I've found > that it's rarely the case that cloning a bug is really the right thing > to do. > > When y

Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-06-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:21:28 -0400 Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Personally, I value that advantage and have advocated for free > infrastructure and emphasized that while setting up Ask Fedora etc > but the question really is, is that enough of an advantage on its own > to continue investing in maintai

[Bug 970092] perl-Business-ISBN-2.06 is available

2013-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970092 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|MODIFIED Fixed In Version|

[Bug 970092] perl-Business-ISBN-2.06 is available

2013-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970092 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|MODIFIED|CLOSED Resolution|---

Re: Contact Ian Weller

2013-06-03 Thread Christopher Meng
Ian just posted a comment on my package that he will review it in these days. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-06-03 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Fri, 2013-05-31 at 16:45 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 31 May 2013 15:19, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > Hi all, > > few days ago I was explaining to someone*, what the Developer Assistant > > [0] is. > > > > When I said something like: "...and you project is exported directly to > > Git

Re: Contact Ian Weller

2013-06-03 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 08:07:41AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Does anyone know how to contact Ian Weller? > > He has not responded to his gmail account since I e-mailed him last > week. His last fedora activity seems to be about 6 months ag

F-19 Branched report: 20130603 changes

2013-06-03 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Jun 3 09:15:02 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [bochs] bochs-2.6.1-1.fc19.x86_64 requires vgabios [deltacloud-core] deltacloud-core-rhevm-1.1.3-1.fc19.noarch requires rubygem(rbovirt) >= 0:0.0.18 [d

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/03/2013 02:33 PM, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Matej Cepl mailto:mc...@redhat.com>> wrote: On 2013-06-03, 12:19 GMT, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted > with the latest version in u

rawhide report: 20130603 changes

2013-06-03 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jun 3 08:15:03 UTC 2013 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [collectd] collectd-gmond-5.3.0-2.fc20.x86_64 requires libganglia-3.5.0.so.0()(64bit) [dragonegg] dragonegg-3.1-19.fc19.x86_64 requires gcc = 0:4.7.2-9

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:03 PM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On , Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted >> with the latest version in upstream? >> > > Officially, it is a SHOULD (as pointed out by Volker), practically it is > p

[Bug 970100] New: perl-Pod-Usage-1.63 is available

2013-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970100 Bug ID: 970100 Summary: perl-Pod-Usage-1.63 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Pod-Usage Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified

[Bug 970099] New: perl-Pod-Parser-1.61 is available

2013-06-03 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970099 Bug ID: 970099 Summary: perl-Pod-Parser-1.61 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Pod-Parser Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity: unspecified

Contact Ian Weller

2013-06-03 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Does anyone know how to contact Ian Weller? He has not responded to his gmail account since I e-mailed him last week. His last fedora activity seems to be about 6 months ago. He is the owner of the mediawiki-ParserFunctions package, which has now been merged with the upstream mediawiki package. I

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Volker Fröhlich wrote: > On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 17:49 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > > It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted > > with the latest version in upstream? > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > Kalpa We

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > On 2013-06-03, 12:19 GMT, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > > It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted > > with the latest version in upstream? > > Could you elaborate a bit on the particular situation? Why wouldn't you > g

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On , Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: Hi, It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted with the latest version in upstream? Officially, it is a SHOULD (as pointed out by Volker), practically it is pretty much consider as a MUST unless there is/are valid reason(s) not to. The

Re: Provenpackager help

2013-06-03 Thread Kalev Lember
2013-06-03 13:48, Simone Caronni skrev: > any provenpackager willing to push these 2 fixes? One is really trivial > and the other one is simply a typo. > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883983 > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948613 I have fixed the Brasero issue; the 2

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Volker Fröhlich
On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 17:49 +0530, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > Hi, > > > It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted > with the latest version in upstream? > > > -- > Best Regards, > > Kalpa Welivitigoda > Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society > Undergradu

Re: Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2013-06-03, 12:19 GMT, Kalpa Welivitigoda wrote: > It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted > with the latest version in upstream? Could you elaborate a bit on the particular situation? Why wouldn't you go with the latest upstream? Best, Matěj -- devel mailing

Package version match with upstream in reviewing

2013-06-03 Thread Kalpa Welivitigoda
Hi, It is compulsory that a package waiting to be reviewed, be submitted with the latest version in upstream? -- Best Regards, Kalpa Welivitigoda Junior Treasurer | Electrical Engineering Society Undergraduate | Department of Electrical Engineering University of Moratuwa Sri Lanka http://about.

Provenpackager help

2013-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, any provenpackager willing to push these 2 fixes? One is really trivial and the other one is simply a typo. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883983 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=948613 Thanks & regards, --Simone -- You cannot discover new oceans unless you have

Self Introduction

2013-06-03 Thread Matt Rose
Hi, my name is Matt Rose and I'm looking for a sponsor for https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=860249 I've been using one or another version of redhat/fedora for well over 15 years now, and I'm very comfortable packaging RPMs, having done it for personal and professional reasons for a

Re: Unresponsive mantainer process - bacula package

2013-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
Well, he just replied. Nevermind. On 3 June 2013 12:42, Simone Caronni wrote: > Hello, > > following on the mail at: > > http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/179574 > > I've filed the "unresponsive mantainer bug" for the bacula package: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show

Unresponsive mantainer process - bacula package

2013-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, following on the mail at: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/179574 I've filed the "unresponsive mantainer bug" for the bacula package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=970016 No package updates were committed, no commits in the git repositories; no bug

Unresponsive mantainer process - dkms package

2013-06-03 Thread Simone Caronni
Hello, I'm following the unresponsive mantainer policy [1] for the package dkms; I'm at the second week trying to get a response (point 4 of the process). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=965712 Does anyone know any other mail address to contact the mantainer? In the bug comments I'v

Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-06-03 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > Actually I was going to ask the opposite question: Do we still need > > FedoraHosted? > > I have found it a valuable service to provide an upstream home for fedora- > specific projects. Sure, it's a great home for fedora-specific u

Re: Fedora Hosted Usability and Developer Experience

2013-06-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 05:52:07PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > I think freedom of the service does matter. The debacles with google > reader and google talk recently should be pointing that up to all of > us. Don't forget Google Code removing downloads :-( Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-06-03 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sun, Jun 02, 2013 at 02:43:15PM +0200, enclair wrote: > I'd like a tool similar to portaudit in FreeBSD or debscan in Debian. This > tool should list all packages which have a security issue. Currently there > is yum-security-plugin but it lists packages only if an update is > available. The new

Review request of vim-javabrowser package

2013-06-03 Thread Petr Hracek
Hi folks, can anybody make the review request of vim-javabrowser package? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=961384 Thank you in advance -- Best regards / S pozdravem Petr Hracek -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-06-03 Thread Florian Weimer
On 06/02/2013 02:43 PM, enclair wrote: I'd like a tool similar to portaudit in FreeBSD or debscan in Debian. This tool should list all packages which have a security issue. I don't know about portaudit, but debsecan works completely out of the usual software management stack. Part of the reas

Re: Software Management call for RFEs

2013-06-03 Thread Jan Zelený
On 2. 6. 2013 at 14:43:15, enclair wrote: > I'd like a tool similar to portaudit in FreeBSD or debscan in Debian. This > tool should list all packages which have a security issue. Currently there > is yum-security-plugin but it lists packages only if an update is > available. The new tool would lis