On Wed, Apr 03, 2013 at 01:53:27AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > A prelinked module reduces time spent in ld-linux, and increases sharing
> > of pages (which reduces time spent in kernel duplicating copy-on-write
> > pages.)
> > The savings are *visible* when invoking an interactive GUI program
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> There are currently no tickets in the FESCo Trac instance that require
> discussion tomorrow. After discussion with several other FESCo members
> in #fedora-devel, we agreed to cancel this week's meeting unless
> something urgent comes up
# F19 Alpha Blocker Review meeting #4
# Date: 2013-04-03
# Time: 16:00 UTC (12:00 EDT, 09:00 PDT)
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
The first alpha blocker review meeting after the freeze has
started - exciting times :)
We'll be running through the alpha blockers and freeze e
On 2 Apr 2013 20:48, "Pete Travis" wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> The docs team has begun assembling release notes for Fedora 19, and I've
been thinking over hardware requirements.
>
> Historically, we have cited the CPU, storage, and especially memory
requirements for the default installation - a basic GN
Am 03.04.2013 01:50, schrieb John Reiser:
>> It does rather seem like we should consider just killing it [prelink], at
>> least by default.
>
> Prelinking shortens the time between execve() and first useful output
in theory
> A prelinked module reduces time spent in ld-linux, and increases shar
On Tue, 02 Apr 2013 16:50:33 -0700
John Reiser wrote:
> > It does rather seem like we should consider just killing it
> > [prelink], at least by default.
>
> Prelinking shortens the time between execve() and first useful output.
> A prelinked module reduces time spent in ld-linux, and increases
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:28:21PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >>I'm considering system specs at this point, but establishing the roles
> >>deployed might aid in targeting more comprehensive documentation. Beyond a
> >>basic desktop, what use cases would you like to see us represent?
> >Cloud g
> It does rather seem like we should consider just killing it [prelink], at
> least by default.
Prelinking shortens the time between execve() and first useful output.
A prelinked module reduces time spent in ld-linux, and increases sharing
of pages (which reduces time spent in kernel duplicating
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013, Adam Williamson wrote:
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 15:18:55 -0700
From: Adam Williamson
Reply-To: Development discussions related to Fedora
To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: Expanding the list of "Hardened Packages"
On 31/03/13 08:11 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrot
Hi all,
My name is Ruben Guerra (biker on Freenode) and I have been a Fedora
ambassador for a year, but I am also a student, and I would like to
participate on the GSoC working for Fedora. I know python (and also I have
knowledge of the django framework), java, C, assembly and some PHP. I also
kno
On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 14:16 +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2013-04-02, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:27:43 + (UTC)
> > Petr Pisar wrote:
> >>
> >> Misusing names does not allow all of that.
> >
> > misusing? Is this, again, another metaphor? Please speak plainly. What
> > do you
Am 03.04.2013 00:18, schrieb Adam Williamson:
> On 31/03/13 08:11 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
>> However prelink does reduce the effectiveness of ASLR (a bit). See
>> http://lwn.net/Articles/341440/ and follow-up conversation.
>
> Ignoring the silly stuff, it does seem that this is Yet Ano
On 02/04/13 02:26 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 01:47:48PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
I'm considering system specs at this point, but establishing the roles
deployed might aid in targeting more comprehensive documentation. Beyond a
basic desktop, what use cases would you like
On 31/03/13 08:11 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
However prelink does reduce the effectiveness of ASLR (a bit). See
http://lwn.net/Articles/341440/ and follow-up conversation.
Ignoring the silly stuff, it does seem that this is Yet Another Reason
Prelink Is Bad, and we seem to keep bumping up
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 01:47:48PM -0600, Pete Travis wrote:
> I'm considering system specs at this point, but establishing the roles
> deployed might aid in targeting more comprehensive documentation. Beyond a
> basic desktop, what use cases would you like to see us represent?
Cloud guest, please
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 03:50:26PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 15:31 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
>
> > When python3 is installed then, with both projects, Cmake finds Python
> > 3.
>
> This seems like either a bug in Cmake or your project (not sure which) -
> if it's p
I'm WAY out on the bell curve...
I have two PCs. One of them, the one I sit in front of, has four
monitors (on one Radeon HD card), video capture and playback, digital
and analog audio (digital goes to a surround system receiver, analog
to gaming headphones), an SSD plus a dual-3Tb raid1 all in
On Saturday, March 30, 2013 08:54:30 AM Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Richard W.M. Jones
wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:08:37PM +0530, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> > > 1. Hardening flags should be turned on (by default) for all packages
> > > which are at comparatively m
On Tue, 2013-04-02 at 15:31 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
> When python3 is installed then, with both projects, Cmake finds Python
> 3.
This seems like either a bug in Cmake or your project (not sure which) -
if it's possible to explicitly specify that you want Python 2, then you
should be doin
Hello,
The docs team has begun assembling release notes for Fedora 19, and I've
been thinking over hardware requirements.
Historically, we have cited the CPU, storage, and especially memory
requirements for the default installation - a basic GNOME desktop. I'd
like to reexamine that practice, wi
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 09:28:12PM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> You can perfectly well have Python 2 and 3 coexisting on the same
> Fedora, and use either in your projects.
>
> The packages are made to be installed in parallel, and there
> shouldn't be any conflicts.
>
> Many people are develop
On 4/2/13 9:26 AM, Steven Haigh wrote:
> On 03/04/13 01:08, Eric Sandeen wrote:
snip
>> I wonder if we should add something to the remount path to printk
>> when a non-remountable option is encountered; I might look into
>> that, otherwise it's a little surprising (although semi-obvious
>> when t
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If you feel that
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Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 4:40:41 AM
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Hi all,
as the Fedora 19 schedule[1] states the Alpha change freeze is upon
us. As we are now at the change freeze bodhi
On 03/04/13 01:46, Eric Sandeen wrote:
BTW Steven - we often recommend against runtime trim, and suggest fstrim
instead, for performance reasons. Just something to maybe keep in mind and
experiment with.
Thats ok - this isn't for a high-performance system - this is just me
messing around on
On 04/02/2013 10:26 AM, Steven Haigh wrote:
On 03/04/13 01:08, Eric Sandeen wrote:
On 4/1/13 5:26 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
On 04/02/2013 12:19 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
Hi all,
Firstly, Please CC me into replies as I'm not subscribed to this
>> $ gcc -m32 -fPIE -O -S foo.c
>> $ cat foo.s # edited for brevity
>> foo: # 25 bytes; about 15 cycles (incl. 3*3 cycles data cache fetch
>> latency)
>> call__x86.get_pc_thunk.cx
>> addl$_GLOBAL_OFFSET_TABLE_, %ecx
>> movl4(%esp), %eax
>> movla@GOT(%ecx), %e
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=947489
Bug ID: 947489
Summary: Please revert the "unbundling" of
"inc::Module::Install", at least when bootstrapping
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: per
On 4/2/13 9:30 AM, Ric Wheeler wrote:
> On 04/02/2013 10:26 AM, Steven Haigh wrote:
>> On 03/04/13 01:08, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>>> On 4/1/13 5:26 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
On 04/02/2013 12:19 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
Good day all,
At FUDCon we discussed the creation of a 'Secret Decoder Ring' document that
would help
those new to the ARM world to quickly become familiar with the ongoing work and
ease the
process of jumping in.
A draft of the document has been posted:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Archi
On 03/04/13 01:08, Eric Sandeen wrote:
On 4/1/13 5:26 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
On 04/02/2013 12:19 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
Hi all,
Firstly, Please CC me into replies as I'm not subscribed to this list.
I'm trying to confirm that Fedora 18 h
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:16:31 + (UTC)
Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2013-04-02, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:27:43 + (UTC)
> > Petr Pisar wrote:
> >>
> >> Misusing names does not allow all of that.
> >
> > misusing? Is this, again, another metaphor? Please speak plainly.
> > What
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:02:46 + (UTC)
Petr Pisar wrote:
> Or maybe there are APIs 3.8, 3.9, and 4.0 and we want to express (3.8
> or 3.9), but poor RPM does not handle `or'?
After reading these and other comments from you, Petr, it seems to me
you are not interested in making things better, yo
On 2013-04-02, seth vidal wrote:
> On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:27:43 + (UTC)
> Petr Pisar wrote:
>>
>> Misusing names does not allow all of that.
>
> misusing? Is this, again, another metaphor? Please speak plainly. What
> do you mean here? Where is the misuse?
>
foo1, foo2, foo3 -- there is no or
On 4/1/13 5:26 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
> On 04/02/2013 12:19 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Firstly, Please CC me into replies as I'm not subscribed to this list.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to confirm that Fedora 18 has enabled trim for X
Hi,
I am orphaning maven-pmd-plugin due to serious hardships when updating,
and I don't really need it.
It is buildrequired by:
ehcache-parent-0:2.3-4.fc19.src
ehcache-sizeof-agent-0:1.0.1-4.fc19.src
maven-license-plugin-0:1.8.0-13.fc19.src
quartz-0:2.1.2-7.fc19.src
resteasy-0:2.3.2-9.fc18.src
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 07:15:29PM +0530, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:51:42PM +0530, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1522424/probable-violations-F19.xls
> >
> > That shows:
> >
> >
> >
> > Can you
On 2013-03-29, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Petr Pisar wrote:
>> On 2013-03-29, Tomas Mraz wrote:
>> Basically yes. It's call for semantically separeted API identifier. Now
>> you have NEVRA string:
>>
>> Where we have API? Nowhere because Fedora assumes only one vers
Hi,
When I tried to run fedpkg upload I got error:
Could not execute new_sources: Lookaside failure: (60, "Peer's
certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the user.")
This is how I solved it:
certutil -d sql:$HOME/.pki/nssdb -A -i \
$HOME/.fedora-server-ca.cert -n 'Fedora Project
On Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:27:43 + (UTC)
Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2013-03-29, seth vidal wrote:
> >>
> >> What's Architecture good for? To allow multilib. To install more
> >> instances of the same version. And yum ignores Architecture on
> >> purpose. But don't tell anybody that. Otherwise he cou
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:51:42PM +0530, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1522424/probable-violations-F19.xls
>
> That shows:
>
>
>
> Can you use a non-proprietary format please.
>
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1522424/probable
Dne 30.3.2013 20:02, Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
There's a number of ruby ones. I'm not sure what to do with these. The
abi is hard coded, so it would be easy to change and rebuild, but I
have no idea if the packages work correctly with the new ruby.
Ruby sig folks: Anyone working on these?
[aeolus
On Tuesday, April 02, 2013 08:25 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 04:56:34PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 16:26 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
When I ran this (which is where I ran into problems) jhbuild installs
python3 and its dependencies, which is wh
On 2013-03-29, seth vidal wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:01:29 + (UTC)
> Petr Pisar wrote:
>
>>
>> What's Architecture good for? To allow multilib. To install more
>> instances of the same version. And yum ignores Architecture on
>> purpose. But don't tell anybody that. Otherwise he could n
On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:51:42PM +0530, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1522424/probable-violations-F19.xls
>
> That shows:
>
>
>
> Can you use a non-proprietary format please.
>
Can you try "wget http://dl.dropbox.com/
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 05:51:42PM +0530, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1522424/probable-violations-F19.xls
That shows:
^Q^Z^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@>^@^C^@
^@^F^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^F^@^@^@^B^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^P^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^B^@^@^B^@^@^B^@^@^B^@^@^B^@^@^B^@^@
Can yo
Compose started at Tue Apr 2 09:15:19 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
--
[aeolus-conductor]
aeolus-conductor-0.10.6-2.fc19.noarch requires ruby(abi) = 0:1.9.1
[alexandria]
alexandria-0.6.9-4.fc19.noarch requires ruby(abi) >=
On Mon, Apr 01, 2013 at 04:56:34PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 16:26 -0400, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
>
> > When I ran this (which is where I ran into problems) jhbuild installs
> > python3 and its dependencies, which is what's borking my day job
> > development.
>
> That's
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=926018
Petr Šabata changed:
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Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
Fixed In Version|
On 04/01/13 at 03:05pm, Dhiru Kholia wrote:
> On 04/01/13 at 10:23am, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > Le lundi 01 avril 2013 à 12:29 +0530, Dhiru Kholia a écrit :
> > > It would be great to have some sort of automated method to find if
> > > hardening criteria applies to a particular package. Ideas are
On lun, 2013-04-01 at 13:19 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> Dne 1.4.2013 12:42, Michael Schwendt napsal(a):
> > RPM's automatic Perl dependency generator isn't 100% and has found
> > something like "use any" in a Perl module or source file. You either
> > need to work around that by changing that text
On lun, 2013-04-01 at 12:14 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> Am 01.04.2013 12:02, schrieb Miro Hrončok:
> > Dne 1.4.2013 10:17, Dario Faggioli napsal(a):
> >> I googled for this quite a bit, but I don't seem to be able to find
> >> anything explaining how to make that "Requires: perl(any)" go
> >>
On mar, 2013-04-02 at 08:32 +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> %define _binaries_in_noarch_packages_terminate_build 0 ?
>
That didn't do anything... Perhaps because what I'm seeing is a `yum
install' issue, rather than a `rpmbuild -ba' issue?
Thanks anyway,
Dario
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--
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=946889
Petr Šabata changed:
What|Removed |Added
Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED
Fixed In Version|
Dne 29.3.2013 22:49, Nicolas Mailhot napsal(a):
This is what I am taking about:
http://www.devconf.cz/slides/mls-pkgmgmt2.pdf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNwNF19oFqM
The most interesting parts of the presentation IMHO are :
1. the acknowledgement that sometimes, you really need operators su
John Reiser wrote:
> It's also easy to see the mechanism:
> $ cat foo.c
> extern int a[];
>
> void foo(int j) { a[j]=j; }
> $ gcc -m32 -fPIE -O -S foo.c
> $ cat foo.s # edited for brevity
> foo: # 25 bytes; about 15 cycles (incl. 3*3 cycles data cache fetch latency)
> call__x86.get
Please note that with the 0.4 update (landing in rawhide and
f19 now), st has switched from BSD to MIT license. [1]
Petr
[1] http://lists.suckless.org/dev/1303/15030.html
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Dne 30.3.2013 03:31, gil napsal(a):
Il 30/03/2013 01:16, Carl Byington ha scritto:
I am working on packaging logstash
http://www.logstash.net/
but the build procedure described here
https://github.com/logstash/logstash/wiki/
Building-and-running-logstash-from-source
seems to be incompatible
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