Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On 18/03/13 10:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 + Sérgio Basto wrote: Hi, For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican ch

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 05:56:28PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 + > > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican > > > characters which >

Re: Overriding template branch when requesting a new branch for a package in Git?

2013-03-18 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Tue, 2013-03-19 at 11:54 +0700, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > Dear all, > > When submitting a package change request for a new branch, the new > branch is currently instantiated with the revision history of the > master (development) branch. > > When the new branch created is for an EPEL rel

Overriding template branch when requesting a new branch for a package in Git?

2013-03-18 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dear all, When submitting a package change request for a new branch, the new branch is currently instantiated with the revision history of the master (development) branch. When the new branch created is for an EPEL release, this might not be appropri

Unable to run mock builds for rawhide on Fedora 18: buildsys-build has no packages to install

2013-03-18 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi folks, I've been having trouble running builds for rawhide on my mock instance recently: > [ankur@dhcppc1 SRPMS]$ mock rebuild -r fedora-rawhide-x86_64 > pybrain-0.3.1-1.fc18.src.rpm > INFO: mock.py version 1.1.29 starting... > Start: init plugins > INFO: selinux enabled > Finish: init plug

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > If we do, shouldn't there be another vote asking if it's okay to make this > change, in light of the possible release delay? Definitely not. There is equivalent that doesn't require apostrophe or umlaut (diaeresis) characters. Legal will hav

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > Sérgio Basto serjux.com> writes: > >> For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican >> characters which >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433 >> >> Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinge

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Andre Robatino
Sérgio Basto serjux.com> writes: > For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican > characters which > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433 > > Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to > "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have th

Re: system freezes after loading gdm/gnome

2013-03-18 Thread David Airlie
> As usual, I have completely forgotten any relevant system/software > info, so: > > This is a Thinkpad T420 with: > > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation > Core > Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) I've just sent a mesa-9.1-2 b

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > This bug just *smells* like one of those which will pop up again and > again and again causing carnage wherever it shows up. I think so. I expect we'll find issues with isolinux, grub, livecd-tools, liveusb-creator. It could be hilarious to

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:34 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 + > Sérgio Basto wrote: > > > Hi, > > For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican > > characters which > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433 > > > > Could we conside

Re: fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:56:28 + Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi, > For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican > characters which > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433 > > Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to > "Schrodingers Cat" o

fedora release name problem

2013-03-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi, For the first time, Fedora release name have non-ascii and pelican characters which https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922433 Could we consider change release name from "Schrödinger's Cat" to "Schrodingers Cat" or other name that not have this additional problem ? Thanks, -- Sér

update of python-markdown

2013-03-18 Thread Thomas Moschny
Hi, python-markdown has been updated in rawhide to the latest version 2.3, please check whether your package still works as expected. There are a some backward-incompatible changes, see https://github.com/waylan/Python-Markdown/blob/2.3.final/docs/release-2.3.txt. Affected packages: bodhi-server

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-18 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:42:46 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:31:41 -0400 (EDT) > Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > Good point at #fedora-devel right now - we are after branching, so > > Branch Freeze and Bodhi should be required now. Kevin, Dennis - > > what's the correct handling

Re: Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 20:55, schrieb James Antill: > This means users can't choose between the mysql's if they want to, so > if we do this it'd be much easier to just say "we'll only have a single > `mysql' in Fedora" and then we'd just have to add one more obsolete to > mariadb and everything works per

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 08:27, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 18.03.2013 01:06, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >>> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: 2013/3/15 Lukáš Nykrýn : > After usr move packages should not ins

Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL

2013-03-18 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 18 mars 2013 18:12, Honza Horak a écrit : > Now I see it was not the best idea to call it MySQL, but yum sees that > as two different packages, doesn't it? Honestly? Capitalized package names are a PITA that break searches and make users miserable. The only reason they're not banned in Fe

Re: Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

2013-03-18 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:42 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Honza Horak wrote: > > In case of MySQL/mariadb (just for demonstration) the config file would > > contain say: > > MySQL +1 > > mariadb -1 > > which would tell yum to prioritize M

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 623 - cleanAllRUV task fails to cleanup config upon completion

2013-03-18 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/623 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/623/0001-Ticket-623-cleanAllRUV-task-fails-to-cleanup-config-.patch -- Mark Reynolds Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: New groups in comps for F19

2013-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
On 17/03/13 11:17 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Adam Williamson wrote: In my experience, nearly all even somewhat mature apps need intltool to compile, so it seems a reasonable thing to install by default in the 'development' group. Only GNOME ones. :-) The only file type it handles that's not GNOM

Re: Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

2013-03-18 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:30 +0100, Honza Horak wrote: > I'd like to discuss the topic about virtual provides in a general > context (not related to MySQL->MariaDB replacement) to find out what > actually is a consensus in Fedora about an issue when "two packages > provide the same (not only) vir

Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL

2013-03-18 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:12 +0100, Honza Horak wrote: > On 03/15/2013 04:22 PM, James Antill wrote: > > 1. We are mixing a _package name_ "mysql" with a provide "mysql", and > > another package name that is different only by capitalization "MySQL". > > Now I see it was not the best idea to call it

Re: Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

2013-03-18 Thread Bill Nottingham
Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) said: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Honza Horak wrote: > > In case of MySQL/mariadb (just for demonstration) the config file would > > contain say: > > MySQL +1 > > mariadb -1 > > which would tell yum to prioritize MySQL. > > > > I'm s

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-18 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 2013-03-17 20:12, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I, for one, never liked Rawhide inheritance and I think it's a good thing > that it was dropped. I, for one, used it every single time it was possible and liked how it saved my time as the package maintainer, resources on builders, space on mirrors, and

python-manuel change of license

2013-03-18 Thread Jerry James
The python-manuel and python3-manuel packages are changing from ZPLv2.1 to ASL 2.0 with the release of version 1.7.2. This will affect Rawhide and F-19 only. I don't expect the license change to affect any other packages, since manuel is used only to build documentation, but let me know of any tr

Re: Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

2013-03-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Honza Horak wrote: > In case of MySQL/mariadb (just for demonstration) the config file would > contain say: > MySQL +1 > mariadb -1 > which would tell yum to prioritize MySQL. > > I'm sure that there are several other use cases for such ut

Yum plugin for prioritize providers [was Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL]

2013-03-18 Thread Honza Horak
I'd like to discuss the topic about virtual provides in a general context (not related to MySQL->MariaDB replacement) to find out what actually is a consensus in Fedora about an issue when "two packages provide the same (not only) virtual symbol" -- particularly what package maintainers could/s

Re: Fwd: MariaDB replacing MySQL

2013-03-18 Thread Honza Horak
On 03/15/2013 04:22 PM, James Antill wrote: On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 18:08 +0100, Honza Horak wrote: However, in scenarios I tested with packages similar to mysql/MySQL/mariadb it turned out, that we never reach the point where we have to choose one of more alternate providers. The reason is that y

[pkgdb] perl-Pod-Simple (un)retirement

2013-03-18 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-Pod-Simple in Fedora devel has been unretired by limb and is now orphan. To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-Pod-Simple -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de

Re: using fedup to upgrade to f19

2013-03-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Sáb, 2013-03-16 at 14:19 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > With pungi of F18 I could build an F19 repo with the images ? > > I don't know. Possibly. pungi -c f19-fedora.ks --destdir=/home/pungi/fedora --cachedir=/home/pungi/cache --name Fedora --ver 19 --nosource -B --force hangs various times

Gnome 3.8 Test Day on Thursday

2013-03-18 Thread Martin Holec
Hi Gnome users, developers and friends! We continue our Test Days ride [0]. You are invited to join Gnome 3.8 Test Day [1] on this Thursday. Gnome 3.8 final will be released on 2013-03-27. You can test new Gnome 3.8 [2] features [3] running from Fedora 19 Live test images and help to make this

Re: f19 mass branching

2013-03-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Dne 12.3.2013 16:30, Dennis Gilmore napsal(a): > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi All, > > > > F19 has been branched, please be sure to do a git pull --rebase to > > pick > > up the new branch, additionally rawhide/f20 has had inheritance

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Reindl Harald wrote: > Am 16.03.2013 19:26, schrieb Rex Dieter: >> Lukáš Nykrýn wrote: >> >>> After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. >> >> That's not necessarily true. Do our packaging guidelines actually say >> that anywhere? > > but WHY are they not saying it clearly? Be

Headsup: soname changing ode-double build coming to rawhide and F-19

2013-03-18 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, When I added the ode-double subpackage I hardcoded the soname, so it is not tracking the regular ode builds soname versioning, which also means that if upstream breaks abi the soname won't change (rhbz#922812) As a result of fixing this, the soname of ode-double is going to change in F-19 an

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.03.2013 04:32, schrieb Mathieu Bridon: > On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 17:31 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 17.03.2013 17:12, schrieb Sérgio Basto: >>> On Sáb, 2013-03-16 at 19:42 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: [root@fileserver:~]$ system-config-users The value for the SHELL variable was

Re: Improving the Fedora boot experience

2013-03-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 08:01:54AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> And the main lesson her is "don't clutter the user interface with >> useless graphical eye candy". It makes the boot process require >> unnecessary system resources. The ne

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 15.03.13 11:07, Dan Mashal (dan.mas...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Michal Schmidt wrote: > > On 03/15/2013 07:00 PM, Dan Mashal wrote: > >> > >> Looks like you guys added provides(service) and fixed the problem. > > > > > > Yes, Lukáš added it. He even mentioned

Re: Is there a reason we do not turn on the file system hardlink/symlink protection in Rawhide?

2013-03-18 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kees Cook wrote: >> AFD was a single specific program doing a very specific task and hardly >> represents an "average workload". I remain extremely disappointed that the >> default-on state was reverted. Ubuntu has had this feature enabled fo

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Tom Hughes
On 18/03/13 12:39, Richard Hughes wrote: On 18 March 2013 09:21, Ales Kozumplik wrote: How does PackageKit implement this? We ask NetworkManager (or connman) for the network adaptor type. This seems to work well, unless someone uses their phone as a portable hotspot (i.e. Wifi) and then it f

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Richard Hughes
On 18 March 2013 09:21, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > How does PackageKit implement this? We ask NetworkManager (or connman) for the network adaptor type. This seems to work well, unless someone uses their phone as a portable hotspot (i.e. Wifi) and then it fails hard. Code is in https://gitorious.org/

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 03/18/2013 10:33 AM, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: On 03/15/2013 12:16 PM, Neal Becker wrote: I don't think users would expect that install of dnf would without asking (or control) automatically run dnf-makecache. At least, this should be controllab

Re: Unhelpful update descriptions

2013-03-18 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > On 03/14/2013 05:02 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 03/14/2013 04:33 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > >> > >> I didn't realize that my method was 'relying on the kindness of > >> strangers' for including the relevant CVE data in the changelog, > >> but > >> it often gi

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 5:22 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.03.2013 08:27, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Am 18.03.2013 01:06, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote:

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Michael Scherer
Le lundi 18 mars 2013 à 17:42 +0800, Mathieu Bridon a écrit : > > > Can't DNF do the same? > > > > > > The proposed system of targets seems extremely complex, for a > > > functionality that is already possible... > > > > It is really not that bad, and the quantity of complexity in it is well > >

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 10:21 +0100, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > On 03/18/2013 10:08 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > > PackageKit already has an option to check for updates on "mobile > > broadband" (i.e bandwidth-capped or pay-as-you-use connections). > > How does PackageKit implement this? By using the N

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread drago01
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > On 03/15/2013 12:16 PM, Neal Becker wrote: >> >> I don't think users would expect that install of dnf would without asking >> (or >> control) automatically run dnf-makecache. >> >> At least, this should be controllable via /etc/sysconfig. F

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 03/18/2013 10:08 AM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: PackageKit already has an option to check for updates on "mobile broadband" (i.e bandwidth-capped or pay-as-you-use connections). How does PackageKit implement this? Can't DNF do the same? The proposed system of targets seems extremely complex,

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 09:53 +0100, Ales Kozumplik wrote: > What I would like to see at some point, and strongly believe it is the > right, generic and simple solution for many similar cases, is to have > NetworkManager let user decide what network connections are suitable for > tasks like this (

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 03/15/2013 07:13 PM, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: On 15/03/13 04:16 AM, Neal Becker wrote: I don't think users would expect that install of dnf would without asking (or control) automatically run dnf-makecache. At least, this should be controllable via /etc/sysconfig. Further, I think it's not

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 03/15/2013 04:16 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and hwat let you come to the conclusion that if you have it to enable in a config makes anything different? have it enabled as DEFAULT is plain stupid did you ever see "checksu mismatch" from YUM? i saw this once download the metadata from ALL known

Re: dnf installs cron.hourly

2013-03-18 Thread Ales Kozumplik
On 03/15/2013 12:16 PM, Neal Becker wrote: I don't think users would expect that install of dnf would without asking (or control) automatically run dnf-makecache. At least, this should be controllable via /etc/sysconfig. Further, I think it's not consistent with Fedora practice to enable this o

[Test-Announce] 2013-03-18 @ 15:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2013-03-18 Thread Adam Williamson
e add any topic suggestions to the meeting wiki page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130318 The current proposed agenda is included below. == Proposed Agenda Topics == 1. Previous meeting follow-up 2. Fedora 19 Alpha status 3. Criteria re-design 4. Test Days 5. Open floor -- Adam Willi

Re: Packages requires /sbin/service.

2013-03-18 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 18.03.2013 01:06, schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: >>> 2013/3/15 Lukáš Nykrýn : After usr move packages should not install files to /sbin. Unfortunately there is a lot of