On 02/12/2013 02:25 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> the point is that i NEVER EVER want to stop any service by a RPM
> update and define this GLOBAL for all services with one single
> config line
>
>
>
Well, although I understand your intention.
But, e.g. if openssl is updated for security issues
> Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo?
/me is very glad we still have xmms in the repo
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On Sat, 09.02.13 13:18, Sérgio Basto (ser...@serjux.com) wrote:
> On Sex, 2013-02-08 at 10:08 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > On 02/05/2013 07:43 PM, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> >
> > > Any advises or opinions ?
> >
> > I think you haven't yet described the original problem you're trying to
> > sol
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Matt Domsch wrote:
> I am concerned about the naming convention at installtime. The
> current proposal removes biosdevname from comps @core as mandatory,
> and I presume would also remove it from the anaconda install
> environment as well. This leaves the kernel
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 00:26:28 +0100,
Lennart Poettering wrote:
Hmm, we still have xmms in the repo? Both Debian and Gentoo killed it
years ago... And I though those were the conservative distributions...
I wanted to keep it in Fedora a little bit longer since I have been using it.
But if
Le mardi 12 février 2013 à 22:06 +0200, Ville Skyttä a écrit :
> On 2013-02-12 08:18, Casper wrote:
> > So my question is: Is there any living developper of rpmdevtools,
>
> I'm alive, but haven't been doing much at all wrt rpmdevtools lately.
>
> > just to add one file in the git repo ?...
>
>
On Tue, 12.02.13 18:22, Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > OK, if that's what you want. I have now orphaned esound. Please take it
> > over.
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910600 spacechart
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910601 xmms
>
> It is not cle
Hi
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> OK, if that's what you want. I have now orphaned esound. Please take it
> over.
>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910600 spacechart
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=910601 xmms
It is not clear why spacec
On Tue, 12.02.13 13:52, Jon Ciesla (limburg...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > So to clarify, you're not actually retiring anything currently, just
> > > expressing to the community that you'd like to and that we should work
> > > toward making that possible?
> >
> > Well, I am just checking before I do s
Peter Robinson wrote:
> In the case of esound I think we're better killing them because I suspect
> in all cases the packages are either:
> - optional packages better served by either native PA or alsa support in
> other sub/related packages
> - disable the esd support and just use the native alsa
xfce4-session still wants to use ConsoleKit, however, there are
upstream patches to fix that. I was waiting for a release to happen
with them, but I can pick them in before them if need be.
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I'd also like to retire "esound" finally. Currently, adplay, ayttm,
> dopewars, e16, gnome-libs, gnubg, lxdream, moon-buggy, spacechart,
> xarchon, xmms-esd still use it.
Most of these projects if not all are dead upstream but for now,
On 12 Feb 2013 19:53, "Jon Ciesla" wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 12.02.13 12:38, Jon Ciesla (limburg...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Heya,
>> > >
>> > > since a whil
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo
meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC (1:00pm EST, 19:00 CET) in #fedora-meeting on
irc.freenode.net.
Links to all tickets below can be found at:
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9
= Followups =
#topic #896 Refine feature process
Hi!
On Feb 12, Honza Horak wrote:
>> grep -q '!includedir /etc/my.cnf.d' /etc/my.cnf || \
>> (echo; echo '!includedir /etc/my.cnf.d') >> /etc/my.cnf
>
> Thanks for that idea. It would work, but honestly I'm not sure if we
> want touch my.cnf during update. I've shared this idea with other
>
On 2013-02-12 08:18, Casper wrote:
> So my question is: Is there any living developper of rpmdevtools,
I'm alive, but haven't been doing much at all wrt rpmdevtools lately.
> just to add one file in the git repo ?...
I'm afraid it's not quite that simple.
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 12.02.13 12:38, Jon Ciesla (limburg...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Heya,
> > >
> > > since a while now logind has replaced CK in Fedora. I'd like to retire
> >
On Tue, 12.02.13 12:38, Jon Ciesla (limburg...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
> wrote:
>
> > Heya,
> >
> > since a while now logind has replaced CK in Fedora. I'd like to retire
> > it entirely from the distribution now.
> >
> > Most deps on CK are gone.
commit 0a6e8b0cfc949dff4d9d8e8fdc8bcb9e56afefe5
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Date: Tue Feb 12 13:49:07 2013 -0500
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Lennart Poettering
wrote:
> Heya,
>
> since a while now logind has replaced CK in Fedora. I'd like to retire
> it entirely from the distribution now.
>
> Most deps on CK are gone. Holdouts are "cdm", "lightdm", "lxsession",
> "lxdm".
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 06:46:28PM +0100, Honza Horak wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I'd like to share an idea related to MySQL->MariaDB move, that may be
> a bit controversial. Speaking about default case in Fedora, MySQL has
> used only one file at /etc/my.cnf to configure server, libraries,
> command-l
Heya,
since a while now logind has replaced CK in Fedora. I'd like to retire
it entirely from the distribution now.
Most deps on CK are gone. Holdouts are "cdm", "lightdm", "lxsession", "lxdm".
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
This page doesn't say anything
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 03:50:56PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
> Am 12.02.2013 15:47, schrieb Olav Vitters:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> Am 11.02.2013 11:31, schrieb Olav Vitters:
> >>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:59:22PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
> >>
Am 12.02.2013 18:46, schrieb Honza Horak:
> I'd like to share an idea related to MySQL->MariaDB move, that may be a bit
> controversial. Speaking about default
> case in Fedora, MySQL has used only one file at /etc/my.cnf to configure
> server, libraries, command-line utilities,
> etc.
>
> Mar
Hi folks,
I'd like to share an idea related to MySQL->MariaDB move, that may be a
bit controversial. Speaking about default case in Fedora, MySQL has used
only one file at /etc/my.cnf to configure server, libraries,
command-line utilities, etc.
MariaDB uses by default /etc/my.cnf and
/etc/m
Am 12.02.2013 15:47, schrieb Olav Vitters:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> Am 11.02.2013 11:31, schrieb Olav Vitters:
>>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:59:22PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
In the end, more than any usability quibbles, the best reason to give
Am 12.02.2013 13:52, schrieb Miroslav Suchý:
> On 02/06/2013 12:02 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>> There is even a documented way for a package to stop its services,
>> before it gets updated, and restart it, after the update, see
>> /var/lib/rpm-state
the point is that i NEVER EVER want to stop a
This Feature has been submitted *before* Feature Submission Deadline and it
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= Features/Scala210 =
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:25:47AM +0100, Brendan Jones wrote:
> On 02/11/2013 10:16 AM, Mamoru TASAKA wrote:
> >Brendan Jones wrote, at 02/11/2013 05:22 PM +9:00:
> >>Summary of changes:
> >>
> >> faf3146... Remove vendor from desktop file (*)
> >> 330426b... Correct desktop file install error
On 05.02.2013 13:21, Reindl Harald wrote:
> the whole discussion abiut offline updates and why yum is not so good
> for dist-upgrades is from the wrong point of view, most of the problems
> are only existing because with each release working things are mangeled
>
> actual example:
> https://bugzill
On Thu, Feb 07, 2013 at 09:22:40PM -0600, Kay Sievers wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:12 AM, Matt Domsch wrote:
>
> >We
> >will need a method to enable/disable on a per-vendor basis as we
> >added to RHEL in the udev rules that invoke (or don't) biosdevname.
> >The suggestion of
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:37:31AM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 11.02.2013 11:31, schrieb Olav Vitters:
> > On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:59:22PM +, Ian Malone wrote:
> >> In the end, more than any usability quibbles, the best reason to give
> >> up on a project is when it refuses to listen to
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:20:04PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Olav Vitters wrote:
> > PS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tweak_UI
>
> It was written by one individual employee and released as an unsupported
> tool. It'd have been a third-party tool if the author didn't happen to be an
> M$ emplo
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:18:09PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Olav Vitters wrote:
> > I don't get why you reply to me. It seems anything people do is just
> > bad.
> >
> > No tweak tool: bad
> > A tweak tool: bad
>
> Strawman…
>
> What I actually mean is:
> Completely hidden or absent settings
Le mardi 12 février 2013 à 11:08 +0100, Simone Caronni a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> The situation is already much better:
>
> rpmdev-newinit
> rpmdev-newspec
> cpanspec
>
> Examples:
>
> $ rpmdev-newspec -m -r 4.5 -o package.spec
>
> Generates a spec file with all the tags required for RHEL 5 system
On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 08:07:23AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 02/08/2013 01:39 PM, drago01 wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>
> >>Gnome3 and Gnome2's GUI working principles are entirely different and
> >>therefore are catering the demands of different target
Hi Devel team
I would like to talk up ownership for Temperature.app (devel/f18)
I am trying to reach out to previous maintainers/owners/change commits contacts.
Thanks and regards
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Ambassador & Beats Editor
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On 02/06/2013 12:02 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
There is even a documented way for a package to stop its services,
before it gets updated, and restart it, after the update, see
/var/lib/rpm-state
Can you point me to such documentation, please?
I found only https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.c
Hello,
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
>> These days, most privileged system operations are already controlled by
>> polkit, a well-established
(I'll just briefly note how much polkit has changed since then...)
>> For directly executed tools, polkit
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthew Miller wrote:
>> Is it possible to configure utilities with the equivalent of UGROUPS=wheel
>> without per-application javascript policy? Currently, we do this with
>> /etc/security/console.apps/config-util.
>>
>> As I understand it,
On 11 February 2013 22:24, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ian Malone wrote:
>> On record? Is there going to be a trial?
>> What frustrates me is it's such an uphill battle.
>> Step 1: Everything changes.
>> Step 2: Users protest, some leave.
>> Step 3: Supporters respond there's nothing wrong and essential
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-LibYAML-0.39-1.fc19' was created pointing to:
0b7d2f5... Update to 0.39
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:33:51PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> ... and also anything that doesn't have config.guess/config.sub, which
> appears to be a lot of my packages for some reason. IIRC these files
> are only used/needed for cross-compiles aren't they?
I realize I was doing it wrong
Hello,
On 12 February 2013 07:18, Casper wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 8 months ago I opened a ticket on rpmdevtools track to request the
> integration of a spec template. 5 months later without any response,
> someone made a ping on the ticket, but there was no response for now.
> https://fedorahosted
On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 15:03 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Olav Vitters wrote:
> > This has been addressed various times. In brief: Advanced buttons do not
> > work. They'll be clicked every time. Tweak tool provides a different
> > guarantee of stability. For instance: if you change an option in Sys
commit 0b7d2f5f1520782c5ba5839a5a6d3b55349a5468
Author: Paul Howarth
Date: Tue Feb 12 09:48:52 2013 +
Update to 0.39
- New upstream release 0.39:
- Using the latest libyaml codebase
(https://github.com/yaml/libyaml/tree/perl-yaml-xs)
- Changes have been made
Hi folks,
8 months ago I opened a ticket on rpmdevtools track to request the
integration of a spec template. 5 months later without any response,
someone made a ping on the ticket, but there was no response for now.
https://fedorahosted.org/rpmdevtools/ticket/20
So my question is: Is there any li
On 02/09/2013 12:39 PM, Michael Scherer wrote:
2) if the fedora forums poll is biased due to "default to gnome 3", then
why isn't unity being more represented in the linuxquestion poll ?
When talking to Ubuntu users, they are telling Unity is as biasing as
Gnome3.
Is it because :
- Unity, by
On 02/08/2013 01:39 PM, drago01 wrote:
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Gnome3 and Gnome2's GUI working principles are entirely different and
therefore are catering the demands of different target audiences.
Citation needed for implication "is different" -> "catering th
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