isitfedoraruby updates

2012-12-19 Thread Mo Morsi
Tons of updates to the http://isitfedoraruby.com webapp! Much appreciation goes out to Nico, Mark, Animesh, and Kendhia (all cc'd) who have all added all of the following features recently. In no particular order: - Now hosted on Openshift!!! - Integrated it w/ jenkins so whenever we push to th

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 12:16 -0500, Basil Mohamed Gohar wrote: > > Perhaps there's a way to support SMB printing without 39MB of > > additional disk usage? > > > > Richard > Alternatively, maybe the dialog that searches for network printers can > offer the option to install the necessary packages w

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

2012-12-19 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:56:36PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Yuck! I really don't see why we should be granting this type of exceptions. > libexec and share exist for a reason. Helper binaries need to be in libexec, > unit files in share, I think allowing systemd to dump everything (and in >

Re: kmod-nvidia-3.6.10?

2012-12-19 Thread Charles Bennett
Thanks for the redirect.  I've taken it to the rpmfusion folks. ccbKevin Kofler wrote:Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > - not sure if this is the right ml It's not. ;-) > kmod-nvidia is definitely not in the official Fedora repos, it's in > rpmfusion Right, thus this belongs to rpmfusion-devel.    

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 00:06 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:30 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >> Probably > >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking > >>Mirek > > > > Jeez, Ubuntu still hasn't done that? > > I don

Re: kmod-nvidia-3.6.10?

2012-12-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jiri Moskovcak wrote: > - not sure if this is the right ml It's not. ;-) > kmod-nvidia is definitely not in the official Fedora repos, it's in > rpmfusion Right, thus this belongs to rpmfusion-devel. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:30 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> Probably >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking >>Mirek > > Jeez, Ubuntu still hasn't done that? I don't think ANY other distro has done that pointless incompatible change (exc

Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

2012-12-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Tomas Mraz wrote: > * AGREED: 1. systemd is granted an exception to put helper > applications in /usr/lib/systemd (t8m, 19:03:17) > * AGREED: 2. the systemd unit files of all the packages are granted an > exception to be under /usr/lib/systemd (t8m, 19:03:33) Yuck! I really don't see

Re: Review swap

2012-12-19 Thread Mario Blättermann
Am Mittwoch, 19. Dezember 2012, 14:30:53 schrieb Neil Horman: > Hey all- > I've got this package I'm trying to get reviewed: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884291 > > Will to swap for it if anyone is interested. > > Neil I'll do the review. Please have a look at my open revi

Re: prefered way of configuring X11 keyboard layouts in F18

2012-12-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 03.12.12 10:04, Vratislav Podzimek (vpodz...@redhat.com) wrote: > The "conversion" (as systemd-localed calls it) works really poorly also > for the Czech keymaps/layouts. 'cz' X11 layout is "converted" to > 'cz-lat2' which works like 'us' until you hit the "Pause Break" key. > This is real

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 19/12/12 21:35, Adrian wrote: > *From*: Bryn M. Reeves On 19/12/12 17:30, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> Probably http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking >>Mirek > So why does this bug not show itself on Suse, and any of the Debian based > builds? They presumably haven

Re: Heads up: glew 1.9.0 coming to F19

2012-12-19 Thread Tom Callaway
On 12/16/2012 05:54 AM, Gilboa Davara wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 2:01 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: >> >>> spring-91.0-1.fc18.src.rpm >> >> Failed to build, but not my fault: >> >> /lib64/libIrrXML.so.1: undefined reference to >> `irr::core::LOCALE_DECIMAL_POINTS' >> collect2: error: ld returned

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adrian
-Original Message- From: Bryn M. Reeves Reply-to: Development discussions related to Fedora To: Development discussions related to Fedora Cc: Miloslav Trmač Subject: Re: fltk Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:01:40 + On 19/12/12 17:30, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:2

Re: Review swap

2012-12-19 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/19/2012 12:30 PM, Neil Horman wrote: Hey all- I've got this package I'm trying to get reviewed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884291 Will to swap for it if anyone is interested. How come nobody ever bothers to add any description of said package to these type of e

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
This thread is no longer providing useful info and is drifting into personal attacks. Lets just drop it now unless someone has something new to add? thanks, kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mai

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.12.2012 20:50, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan > Don't let me list all the applications that comes shipped within that > I never use starting with evolution, rhythmbox, backup, cheese, > empathy, a bunch of games, etc. and you think it gets better introduce additional deps there are still way too mu

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.12.2012 20:26, schrieb Chris Murphy: > > On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> >> and i would file a bug if something pulls samba-client as >> dependency - there are still WAY too much useless dependencies >> like colord and i refuse to accept more of them! > > If you

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Ozan Çağlayan
> printing OVER SAMBA is NOT a basic task > it is not common for the normal enduser > > it may be common in company networks > but there should nobody have to add a printer by himself > >> @Ozan: File a bug and ask for the dep to be added > > and i would file a bug if something pulls samba-client a

Review swap

2012-12-19 Thread Neil Horman
Hey all- I've got this package I'm trying to get reviewed: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=884291 Will to swap for it if anyone is interested. Neil -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora ARM status meeting 2012-12-19

2012-12-19 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Jon Masters wrote: > Hello, > > This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec > 12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting with > Brendan as Paul is on PTO today. Please ping us on #fedora-arm with > additional topics on IR

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 19, 2012, at 12:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > and i would file a bug if something pulls samba-client as > dependency - there are still WAY too much useless dependencies > like colord and i refuse to accept more of them! If you have a b&w display and only b&w printers, then colord woul

Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-12-19)

2012-12-19 Thread Tomas Mraz
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-12-19) === Meeting started by t8m at 18:00:39 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-12-19/fedora-meeting.2012-12-19-18.00.log.html . Meeting summary

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread drago01
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.12.2012 17:58, schrieb drago01: >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> Am 19.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > because most peopl

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.12.2012 17:58, schrieb drago01: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> Am 19.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: because most people the days are using network-printers even the cheap HP printer

Fedora ARM status meeting 2012-12-19

2012-12-19 Thread Jon Masters
Hello, This week's Fedora ARM status will take place today (Wednesday, Dec 12th) in #fedora-meeting-1 on Freenode. I will run the meeting with Brendan as Paul is on PTO today. Please ping us on #fedora-arm with additional topics on IRC also. I will be at the dentist soon, so Brendan may start the

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 11:12 -0700, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 19 December 2012 10:58, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: > >> 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson > >> Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state > >>

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

2012-12-19 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 19 December 2012 10:58, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: >> 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson >> Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state >> of >> minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17. >> [..

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 19/12/12 17:30, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> On Fedora the following command fails: >> >> g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE >> -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -pipe -Wall -fexceptions -O2 -ffast-math >> -finli

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: > 2012/12/18 Adam Williamson > Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state > of > minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17. > [...] > > > Can you also point to a page with the hole list

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 18:30 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > On Fedora the following command fails: > > > > g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE > > -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -pipe -Wall -fexceptions -O2 -

Re: [@core] minimal install size assessment, f17 vs. f18

2012-12-19 Thread Thomas Bendler
2012/12/18 Adam Williamson > Just for interest, here's the current (and likely final) state of > minimal install package set for f18 vs. f17. > [...] > Can you also point to a page with the hole list of packages in minimal? Otherwise you need to know what was allready in minimal back in f17. Re

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On Fedora the following command fails: > > g++ -I/usr/include/freetype2 -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE > -D_THREAD_SAFE -D_REENTRANT -pipe -Wall -fexceptions -O2 -ffast-math > -finline-functions -fomit-frame-pointer -DNDEBUG -g

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 19/12/12 15:12, Adrian wrote: > -Wl,-z,relro -lfltk Which is pretty close to what you get on current Ubuntu: root@u1210-vm1:~# grep PRETTY /etc/os-release PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu quantal (12.10)" root@u1210-vm1:~# dpkg -s libfltk1.1 | head -2 Package: libfltk1.1 Status: install ok installed root

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Basil Mohamed Gohar
On 12/19/2012 12:00 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM, drago01 wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> >>> Am 19.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > because most peop

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 11:56 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Dan Williams wrote: > > It's the other way around. If libfoo 1.0.0 linked with -lbar and -lm, > > and then you upgraded to libfoo 1.0.1 which *no longer* links to -lm, > > now stuff that links to libfoo

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> >> Am 19.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald >>> wrote: because most people the days are using network-printers even the

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread drago01
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald >> wrote: >>> because most people the days are using network-printers >>> even the cheap HP printers having WLAN/LAN and working without >>> a

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Dan Williams wrote: > It's the other way around. If libfoo 1.0.0 linked with -lbar and -lm, > and then you upgraded to libfoo 1.0.1 which *no longer* links to -lm, > now stuff that links to libfoo might fail if those things did not > specifically request -lm them

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 11:23 -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > In some cases you can get DSO linking errors when you don't explicitly link > > to those other packages. People building from source might not care, but > > this can cause probl

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Adrian wrote: > This attitude is why people leave redhat for debian/ubuntu, get fltk right > and the rest will follow. > We have tested already. Adrian, no disrespect intended— but I believe you are making a mistake here. It looks like package you're having trou

Re: [ANNOUNCE] xf86-video-intel 2.20.16

2012-12-19 Thread Ebru Arslan
i did like that but it doesnt work. I updated Fedora 14 32 bit. then i installed driver from intelligraphic.org. know Fedora 14 is start but after that stuck. On 12/18/12, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Ter, 2012-12-18 at 10:39 +0200, Ebru Arslan wrote: >> libdrm revision is 2.2.22 but i configure 2.4.

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adrian
This attitude is why people leave redhat for debian/ubuntu, get fltk right and the rest will follow. We have tested already. -Original Message- From: Adam Jackson Reply-to: Development discussions related to Fedora To: Development discussions related to Fedora Subject: Re: fltk Date: We

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > In some cases you can get DSO linking errors when you don't explicitly link > to those other packages. People building from source might not care, but > this can cause problems for official builds. Can you elaborate on this or point me to

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 01:55 +1000, Adrian wrote: > No it is not, the reason flrig cannot be built in fedora as it is easy > in Ubuntu. Lets not get behind the 8 ball. Assuming by flrig you mean this: http://www.w1hkj.com/downloads/flrig/flrig-1.3.09.tar.gz Then flrig itself is not exactly blamel

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adrian
No it is not, the reason flrig cannot be built in fedora as it is easy in Ubuntu. Lets not get behind the 8 ball. -Original Message- From: Susi Lehtola Reply-to: Development discussions related to Fedora To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: fltk Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 17:22:05

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.12.2012 15:29, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> because most people the days are using network-printers >> even the cheap HP printers having WLAN/LAN and working without >> any windows crap > > Agree but it doesn't change the fact that ther

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.12.2012 14:37, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: > I'm trying to add a SAMBA printer through control-center in F18. As > far as I can understand, this is still only supported through > system-config-printer and not from printer panel in > gnome-control-center. Besides that since samba-client is not in

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/19/2012 04:22 PM, Susi Lehtola wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:12:38 +1000 Adrian wrote: Please guys get your act together on fltk, the yum build is ridiculous; [root@fedora18desk ~]# fltk-config --ldflags -Wl,-z,relro -lfltk should be (built from source) [root@fedora18desk ~]# fltk-

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 17:22:05 +0200, Susi Lehtola wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:12:38 +1000 I'm guessing your build from source is a static one. The shared library in Fedora is already linked to all of the above libraries, so if one only uses fltk then one only needs to link to -lfltk. I

Re: [linuxham] fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adrian
So we see by the use of physiology, and the material rights of substitution how resolve can be found. Adrian ... vk4tux -Original Message- From: Adrian Reply-to: linux...@yahoogroups.com To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: linux...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [linuxham] fltk Date: Thu, 20

Re: fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Susi Lehtola
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 01:12:38 +1000 Adrian wrote: > > Please guys get your act together on fltk, the yum build is > ridiculous; > > [root@fedora18desk ~]# fltk-config --ldflags > > -Wl,-z,relro -lfltk > > should be (built from source) > > [root@fedora18desk ~]# fltk-config --ldflags > -L/usr

fltk

2012-12-19 Thread Adrian
Please guys get your act together on fltk, the yum build is ridiculous; [root@fedora18desk ~]# fltk-config --ldflags -Wl,-z,relro -lfltk should be (built from source) [root@fedora18desk ~]# fltk-config --ldflags -L/usr/local/lib -lfltk -lXext -lXft -lfontconfig -lXinerama -lpthread -ldl -lm

Re: kmod-nvidia-3.6.10?

2012-12-19 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 12/19/2012 03:51 PM, Charlie Bennett wrote: Hi All - Are there plans to promote the kmod-nvidia packages for 3.6.10 on F17 from testing to updates? - not sure if this is the right ml, kmod-nvidia is definitely not in the official Fedora repos, it's in rpmfusion --Jirka Thanks, cc

kmod-nvidia-3.6.10?

2012-12-19 Thread Charlie Bennett
Hi All - Are there plans to promote the kmod-nvidia packages for 3.6.10 on F17 from testing to updates? Thanks, ccb -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Ozan Çağlayan
On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 19.12.2012 14:37, schrieb Ozan Çağlayan: >> I'm trying to add a SAMBA printer through control-center in F18. As >> far as I can understand, this is still only supported through >> system-config-printer and not from printer panel in >>

Why samba-client not installed by default?

2012-12-19 Thread Ozan Çağlayan
Hi, I'm trying to add a SAMBA printer through control-center in F18. As far as I can understand, this is still only supported through system-config-printer and not from printer panel in gnome-control-center. Besides that since samba-client is not installed by default, system-config-printer is not

F-18 Branched report: 20121219 changes

2012-12-19 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Dec 19 09:16:31 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [marble] 1:python-marble-4.9.4-1.fc18.x86_64 requires sip-api(8) >= 0:8.1 [python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastructure] python-fedmsg-meta-fedora-infrastru

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2012-12-19)

2012-12-19 Thread Tomas Mraz
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT, 19:00 CEST) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #615 Strategy for services