Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 09:09:51PM +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:27 +0200 > Till Maas wrote: > > This has already manifested for me with the slow keys feature that GDM > > enables and makes one believe that the keyboard died. > > > Yes, this happened to me once as well.

Planned Outage: Buildsystem server reboots - 2012-10-02 21:00 UTC

2012-09-27 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Planned Outage: Buildsystem server reboots - 2012-10-02 21:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2012-10-02 21:00 UTC, which will last approximately 2 hours. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2012-10-02 2

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:39:27 +0200 Till Maas wrote: > This has already manifested for me with the slow keys feature that GDM > enables and makes one believe that the keyboard died. > Yes, this happened to me once as well... I was really bewildered as to what to do. But I think with tapping it's t

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 13:59 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > Hi Adam, > > On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:54:07 -0700 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > When lots of people who clearly aren't complete idiots tell you > > something happens to them, it's probably best just to accept that it > > does, because arguin

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 05:42:47PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > Not buying that. If you tap and nothing happens you may also think > that something is broken "why does my touchpad not work" ... this is > even more likely then your scenario. > So this argument is flawed as well. The default isn't being

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 05:42:47PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > Not buying that. If you tap and nothing happens you may also think > that something is broken "why does my touchpad not work" ... this is > even more likely then your scenario. > So this argument is flawed as well. You know more that "it

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2012-09-27 Thread Paul Howarth
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Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Steve Morrissey
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 10:42 AM, drago01 wrote: > > Not buying that. If you tap and nothing happens you may also think > that something is broken "why does my touchpad not work" ... this is > even more likely then your scenario. > So this argument is flawed as well. > > But was tap to click ever

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 02:47:47PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Tomas Radej wrote: > >> > I don't expect much of a consensus to arise around this point, so I suggest >> > we check if in the main environments, the tap

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 02:47:47PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Tomas Radej wrote: > > I don't expect much of a consensus to arise around this point, so I suggest > > we check if in the main environments, the tap-to-click setting is easily > > accessible and user-frien

Heads up: My FC18 i686 vhost was bricked by lastest updates.

2012-09-27 Thread John Ellson
Caution (it might just be me, but just in case...) I can no longer boot my Fedora 18, i686, virtual host this morning after "yum update" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=861130 I suspect, but can't verify quickly, either systemd or glibc. John -- devel mailing list devel@lists.f

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Tomas Radej
On 09/27/2012 03:07 PM, Steve Morrissey wrote: The problem with your argument is that it can go with both directions. We can have it enabled by default and in case the user is annoyed by it he/she can turn it off. This is exactly right, there really is no right/wrong answer to this. For many it

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Steve Morrissey
> > The problem with your argument is that it can go with both directions. > We can have it enabled by default and in case the user is annoyed by > it he/she can turn it off. This is exactly right, there really is no right/wrong answer to this. For many it simply depends on what system you're usi

rawhide report: 20120927 changes

2012-09-27 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Sep 27 08:15:06 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [almanah] almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserverui-3.0.so.3()(64bit) almanah-0.8.0-7.fc18.x86_64 requires libedataserver-1.2.so.16()(64bit)

Fedora ARM weekly status meeting minutes 2012-09-26

2012-09-27 Thread Paul Whalen
Good day all, Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting yesterday. For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-09-26/fedora-meeting-1.2012-09-26-20.00.html Minutes (text): http://meetbot.

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-27 Thread Ian Malone
On 27 September 2012 13:13, wrote: >> From: Adam Williamson >> Bugzilla goes by .src.rpm name not binary rpm >> name. rpm -qi can tell you the .src.rpm from which any binary package >> was built. > > I used to get tripped up on this too and I've been doing Linux since the RHL > 4.0 days. In som

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread drago01
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Tomas Radej wrote: > Hi, > > > On 09/26/2012 08:51 PM, les wrote: >> >> Please, you can enable this feature if you want it, and if your touchpad >> handles it well, then good for you. Tapping is a "feature", not a >> characteristic of touch pad use, and as such sho

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Tomas Radej
Hi, On 09/26/2012 08:51 PM, les wrote: Please, you can enable this feature if you want it, and if your touchpad handles it well, then good for you. Tapping is a "feature", not a characteristic of touch pad use, and as such should be accessible to those who want it, but not enabled by default.

Re: dependency bug wodim/genisoimage

2012-09-27 Thread John . Florian
> From: Adam Williamson > Bugzilla goes by .src.rpm name not binary rpm > name. rpm -qi can tell you the .src.rpm from which any binary package > was built. I used to get tripped up on this too and I've been doing Linux since the RHL 4.0 days. In some cases it's entirely unobvious (e.g,. pytho

Re: Why is not enabled TapButton of touchpad on Fedora by default?

2012-09-27 Thread Martin Sourada
Hi Adam, On Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:54:07 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > When lots of people who clearly aren't complete idiots tell you > something happens to them, it's probably best just to accept that it > does, because arguing that you can't possibly see how it could > possibly happen to them is

Re: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 2012-09-26

2012-09-27 Thread Peter Robinson
Morning all, Sorry for missing last nights meeting. In the short term I don't think I'll be able to make one until at least November as I'll be in Helsinki until at least Nov 2nd and that would make the meeting 11pm for me. I'll move to the format of updating by replying to this mail each week :-