Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 21:30 -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > El Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:18:17 -0400 > Orcan Ogetbil escribió: > > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > > > The only Freedom you've lost is that now, in addition to the > > > person-hours to do the work and monetary

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/06/04 16:56 (GMT+0200) Andreas Bierfert composed: I guess we can agree that the technical part of font installation etc. is done like it should be. However, it is _not_ the wine-tahoma-fonts package which bullies its way and changes the system look and fell on its own. There are some web

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 03:35:22 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Przemek Klosowski wrote: > > The usability of Fedora Live will take a hit---the premise is that > > you can insert the CD and boot as-is. If Live is going to require > > permanent changes to the system, one might as well permanently > > ins

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 El Sat, 2 Jun 2012 12:18:17 -0400 Orcan Ogetbil escribió: > On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > The only Freedom you've lost is that now, in addition to the > > person-hours to do the work and monetary cost to host your bits

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread nomnex
I follow this thread, and I follow the other thread about the same topic, on the user forum where I belong. Flame if if you like for posting her, but when I read this URLs below [1], I do feel worry. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/b8/archive/2012/05/22/designing-for-pcs-that-boot-faster-than-ever-before.

rawhide: libudev version bump, merged into systemd, libudev user need rebuild

2012-06-04 Thread Kay Sievers
We merged the upstream udev repository entirely into the systemd repository. There is no standalone upstream udev project anymore. The version of systemd which includes udev has landed in rawhide a couple of days ago. Fedora 18 will not have a udev.rpm, no libudev.rpm and no libudev-devel.rpm. Th

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Przemek Klosowski wrote: > The usability of Fedora Live will take a hit---the premise is that you > can insert the CD and boot as-is. If Live is going to require permanent > changes to the system, one might as well permanently install, no? Disabling "Secure" Boot doesn't necessarily have to be per

Re: MATE 1.2

2012-06-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Körber wrote: > Yes, [Cinnamon]'s under review for 6 months now... :( It's available from repos.fedorapeople.org though: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/leigh123linux/cinnamon/ Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/m

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 07:44 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:37:07 -0400 > Gerry Reno wrote: > >>> Burned another DVD and booting it got some other errors (rpcbind?) >>> but it runs the installer at least. >>> >>> I'm doing custom partitioning and I selected to encrypt the LVM >>> physical

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 07:37 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 06/04/2012 06:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >> On 06/04/2012 03:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >>> On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 >>> Gerry Reno wrote: >>> Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: ERROR: could not

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:37:07 -0400 Gerry Reno wrote: > > Burned another DVD and booting it got some other errors (rpcbind?) > > but it runs the installer at least. > > > > I'm doing custom partitioning and I selected to encrypt the LVM > > physical volume (LUKS) but now it is also asking about en

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 06:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 06/04/2012 03:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 >> Gerry Reno wrote: >> >>> Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: >>> >>> ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device >>> Loading Fed

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 03:19 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 > Gerry Reno wrote: > >> Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: >> >> ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device >> Loading Fedora 17 x86_64 installer... >> >> dracut Warning

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 16:58:18 -0400, Steve Gordon wrote: I eventually hit it with a hammer and did yum remove '*fc16*', when I reviewed the resultant transaction there were a handful of fc17 packages also removed as a result of dependencies but these were easily installed again, pulling

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 22:52 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > Given that I was stating my personal opinion on the message we should > > communicate to the general user population about which upgrade methods > > are most likely to work with the least tweaking, though, I'm not

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Persson
Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 19:56 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > > I also won't install anything that I haven't checked the PGP signature > > on. That excludes netinst.iso and Preupgrade, and if I use Anaconda I > > have to be careful to not let it download anything. > > The chec

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Björn Persson
Adam Williamson wrote: > Given that I was stating my personal opinion on the message we should > communicate to the general user population about which upgrade methods > are most likely to work with the least tweaking, though, I'm not sure > what relevance your personal qualms about buying optical

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 16:21 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2012/06/04 20:06 (GMT+0200) Nicolas Mailhot composed: > > > 1. why is wine making them mandatory? > > Probably related to Tahoma being the Windows System (aka Menu) font in > W2K > and/or WXP (IIRC, in both). It is quite nicely descri

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012/06/04 20:06 (GMT+0200) Nicolas Mailhot composed: 1. why is wine making them mandatory? Probably related to Tahoma being the Windows System (aka Menu) font in W2K and/or WXP (IIRC, in both). -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 1

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 06/04/2012 10:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >>> On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. >>

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Andreas Bierfert
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 20:06 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > 1. why is wine making them mandatory? Can't the package be made > optional in > wine and wine use one of the default system fonts when it is not > present? You can use wine without the font installed. It is just the meta package which

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
On 06/04/2012 10:24 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >> On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. One drive probably SSD at this point, gets dedica

Re: MATE 1.2

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 20:56 +0200, Richard Körber wrote: > > and Cinnamon is under review at > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771252. > > Yes, it's under review for 6 months now... :( If you read the history, you can see why. Implementing an entire desktop environment in line with

Re: MATE 1.2

2012-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/05/2012 12:26 AM, Richard Körber wrote: > >> and Cinnamon is under review at >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771252. > > Yes, it's under review for 6 months now... :( So help out if you can. Going on a rant isn't going to contribute towards that. Rahul -- devel mailing li

Re: F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 15:06:46 -0400 Gerry Reno wrote: > Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: > > ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device > Loading Fedora 17 x86_64 installer... > > dracut Warning: Unable to process initqueue > dracut Warning:

F17: fatal errors on install

2012-06-04 Thread Gerry Reno
Today tried installing F17 x86_64 from DVD and get these errors: ERROR: could not insert 'floppy': No such device Loading Fedora 17 x86_64 installer... dracut Warning: Unable to process initqueue dracut Warning: /dev/disk/by-label/Fedorax2017x20x86_64 does not exist dracut War

Re: MATE 1.2

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Körber
> and Cinnamon is under review at > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771252. Yes, it's under review for 6 months now... :( I have the impression that the criticism about Gnome 3 isn't taken very seriously. Neither from the Gnome nor from the Fedora developers. It's just frustrating...

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 04 Jun 2012 19:36:29 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > Additionally have worth I try read carefully all docs about > provenpackager and such updates and have not found how deal with such > versions. It's not provenpackager specific stuff, but found in the basic packaging guidelines: https:

Reminder: Voting has begun in Fedora Board, FAmSCo, and FESCo elections, ends June 7th

2012-06-04 Thread Robyn Bergeron
Greetings! A friendly reminder that the elections for the Fedora Board, Fedora Engineering Steering Committee (FESCo), and the Fedora Ambassadors Steering Committee (FAmSCo) began on June 1st, 2012, at 00:00:01 UTC, and will end Thursday, June 7th, 2012 at 23:59:59 UTC. Please refer to a UTC time

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, I agree some wine fonts are particularly ugly, but then : 1. why is wine making them mandatory? Can't the package be made optional in wine and wine use one of the default system fonts when it is not present? 2. otherwise an uglier workaround is to ship a fontconfig rule in your package that

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 20:57:01 +0200, Tadej Janež wrote: > For techne (one of the dependent packages which I maintain) you bumped > the release from 0.2.3-2 to 0.2.3-3, which breaks upgrades to F-17 and > rawhide. > Is there a way to revert the change and make a 0.2.3-2.fc16.1 build? Revert the cha

Re: 3.5.0 kernel problem

2012-06-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > I'm using a Rawhide VirtualBox 4.1.16 guest set up to automatically install > guest additions via dkms for each new kernel. My problem is apparently caused > by > failure of the guest additions to build properly with the 3.5.0 kernel. When

3.5.0 kernel problem

2012-06-04 Thread Andre Robatino
I'm using a Rawhide VirtualBox 4.1.16 guest set up to automatically install guest additions via dkms for each new kernel. My problem is apparently caused by failure of the guest additions to build properly with the 3.5.0 kernel. When it attempts to build (either when I install a new 3.5.0 kernel, o

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-04)

2012-06-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-06-04) === Meeting started by mjg59 at 17:01:49 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-06-04/fesco.2012-06-04-17.01.log.html . Meeting summary -

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Johannes Lips
Pete Walter wrote: > Pavel Alexeev hubbitus.com.ru> writes: >> May be in next time? What disadvantages you are seen proceed with that >> update? Do you try test it? > > No, I did not test this. And here's a few reasons why I think this > shouldn't be pushed: > > - You are forcing others to do

Re: Reminder: Fedora 15 end of life on 2012-06-26

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 11:03 -0400, Cole Robinson wrote: > On 05/31/2012 02:09 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Greetings. > > > > This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 15. > > > > Fedora 15 will reach end of lif

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Pete Walter
Pavel Alexeev hubbitus.com.ru> writes: > May be in next time? What disadvantages you are seen proceed with that > update? Do you try test it? No, I did not test this. And here's a few reasons why I think this shouldn't be pushed: - You are forcing others to do work they otherwise wouldn't nee

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 10:03 +0200, Andrea Musuruane wrote: > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> * 3rd attempt: > >> Same as options as the 2nd attempt but this time I chose to enable > >> only the F17 remote repositories and I disabled the "Install repo" so > >> I presume

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 19:56 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > I also won't install anything that I haven't checked the PGP signature on. > That excludes netinst.iso and Preupgrade, and if I use Anaconda I have to be > careful to not let it download anything. The checksums of the images themselves a

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 19:56 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > Frankly, I'd prefer it if we more strongly recommended that people do > > DVD/netinst upgrades. > > I refuse to buy writable DVDs or CDs, because if I did I would be giving > money > to the copyright lobby, help

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Pavel Alexeev
04.06.2012 20:10, Pete Walter wrote: Pavel Alexeev hubbitus.com.ru> writes: If you or other will insist I may unpush that update and try patch IM for all issues off course... But I really do not want doing it now. In my opinion, the right way to handle this is to backport the security fixes.

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Pete Walter
Pavel Alexeev hubbitus.com.ru> writes: > If you or other will insist I may unpush that update and try patch > IM for all issues off course... But I really do not want doing it > now. In my opinion, the right way to handle this is to backport the security fixes. You even have patches linked to eac

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Andreas Bierfert said: > I guess we can agree that the technical part of font installation etc. > is done like it should be. However, it is _not_ the wine-tahoma-fonts > package which bullies its way and changes the system look and fell on > its own. There are some web-pages whic

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Olav Vitters wrote: > Expecting and more or less demanding a reply after calling someone > ignorant... not nice behaviour. My intentions were not to insult anyone and I am not seeking a reply to my e-mail. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 06/02/2012 10:57 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: And I don't think having to disable "Secure" Boot in the firmware is a hurdle which will make our users "simply walk away". The usability of Fedora Live will take a hit---the premise is that you can insert the CD and boot as-is. If Live is going to

Schedule for Today's FESCo Meeting (2012-06-04)

2012-06-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Monday at 17:00UTC (1:00pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = New business = #topic #857 F18 Feature: Initial Experienc

Re: MALLOC_PERTURB_: everyone should set this envvar

2012-06-04 Thread Jim Meyering
John Reiser wrote: >> # http://udrepper.livejournal.com/11429.html >> export MALLOC_PERTURB_=$(($RANDOM % 255 + 1)) > > For supportability (and to help remind you to turn it off before > performance tests), then also consider adding a line such as: > echo 1>&2 MALLOC_PERTURB_=$MALLOC_P

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Pavel Alexeev
03.06.2012 22:57, Tadej Janež wrote: Pavel, On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 20:21 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: It is main reason why I request provenpackager rights. In fedora 17 it was so painful because I several times asks build dependencies and then ask help to push updates too. I think in that turn

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Olav Vitters
On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 08:44:38AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > > Its not his ignorance - he's on vacation for the next two weeks... > > Brian replied to Lennart 7 minutes after Lennart's e-mail and mine was > an hour after that as a pretty good indication Lennart w

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Johannes Lips
Tadej Janež wrote: > Pavel, > > On Tue, 2012-05-29 at 20:21 +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote: > >> It is main reason why I request provenpackager rights. In fedora 17 it >> was so painful because I several times asks build dependencies and >> then ask help to push updates too. >> I think in that turn n

Re: Update ImageMagick in Fedora 16

2012-06-04 Thread Pavel Alexeev
28.05.2012 16:45, Tomáš Smetana wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2012 23:28:03 +0400 Pavel Alexeev wrote: Hi. Due to the security issues ([1] for example) and act as newcomer provenpackager I'll plan update ImageMagick in Fedora 16 too (I should had been done it early off course). It seams addressed in

Re: Reminder: Fedora 15 end of life on 2012-06-26

2012-06-04 Thread Cole Robinson
On 05/31/2012 02:09 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Greetings. > > This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 15. > > Fedora 15 will reach end of life on 2012-06-26, and no further updates > will be pushed out after that ti

Notice: Retiring vbetool in F18

2012-06-04 Thread Adam Jackson
Historically the only thing requiring vbetool was pm-utils, but that's not been true in a nice long time: * Fri Oct 08 2010 Adam Jackson 1.3.1-2 - Drop the vbetool dependency, suspend is only supported on KMS drivers. That was F14 gold: % koji -q latest-pkg dist-f14 pm-utils pm-utils-1.3.1-2.fc

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Peter Jones wrote: > On 06/02/2012 05:47 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: >> There is no additional security provided by the feature as so far >> described—only security theater.   So I can't modify the kernel or >> bootloader, great—but the kernel wouldn't have let me d

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Andreas Bierfert
Hi, first I would like to point out that I am totally open for a discussion about this. IMO bugzilla is just not the right place for it. As you have pointed out there are two aspects on this: A technical part and a subjective part about the look and feel. I guess we can agree that the technical

Re: MALLOC_PERTURB_: everyone should set this envvar

2012-06-04 Thread John Reiser
> # http://udrepper.livejournal.com/11429.html > export MALLOC_PERTURB_=$(($RANDOM % 255 + 1)) For supportability (and to help remind you to turn it off before performance tests), then also consider adding a line such as: echo 1>&2 MALLOC_PERTURB_=$MALLOC_PERTURB_ " # $HOME/.bash_pro

[Bug 828231] perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.027 is available

2012-06-04 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828231 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

[perl-Unicode-Casing] 0.012 bump

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Pisar
commit b2f5dc669a02b0e761af0b2cb6a21ea87a698171 Author: Petr Písař Date: Mon Jun 4 16:45:28 2012 +0200 0.012 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Unicode-Casing.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git

File Unicode-Casing-0.12.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Unicode-Casing: 2f674a2564a4129daa076eb3185a0557 Unicode-Casing-0.12.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/03/2012 03:41 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Rahul Sundaram wrote: >> Just because people have the ability to install Fedora and post in a >> forum doesn't mean that you can reliably assume that they are willing to >> fiddle with BIOS settings on their system or they would prefer that over >> a in

[Bug 828226] perl-MooseX-MarkAsMethods-0.15 is available

2012-06-04 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828226 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

rawhide report: 20120604 changes

2012-06-04 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jun 4 08:15:03 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [389-admin] 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicuuc.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.i686 requires libicui18n.so.48 389-admin-1.1.28-1.fc18.

Re: *countable infinities only

2012-06-04 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 06/01/2012 03:56 PM, Jon Ciesla wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >>> >>> Drive manufacturers need to do nothing. >>> >>> One drive probably SSD at this point, gets dedicated to OS.  Other drive to >>> everything el

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.06.2012 15:36, schrieb Matthias Clasen: > On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 13:50 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> Brian Wheeler wrote: >>> >>> How is this change a win? >> >> Unfortunately, due to Lennart's ignorance (we're all ignorant of >> something), he will consider your e-mail "flame-bait" a

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.06.2012 12:50, schrieb Alexey I. Froloff: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 02:20:02PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> It, in fact, provides proof that this feature is searching for a >> problem. Which applications require gigabytes per second throughput out >> of /tmp? > sort(1) and maybe moc

Re: Easy way of testing packages?

2012-06-04 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
On Sun, 2012-06-03 at 23:51 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: [...] > If you're in a hurry to get an update earlier, you can use koji or bodhi > command-line tools to download specific NEVRs or (in the case of bodhi) > update IDs. > > e.g.: > > bodhi -D FEDORA-2012-7716 > bodhi -D mesa-8.0.2-8.fc17 >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Matthias Clasen wrote: > Its not his ignorance - he's on vacation for the next two weeks... Brian replied to Lennart 7 minutes after Lennart's e-mail and mine was an hour after that as a pretty good indication Lennart was not going to reply. Unless the timing was coincidental of him packing his ba

Re: supercat anybody working on it?

2012-06-04 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 08:16:49PM -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 6/2/2012 7:03 PM, Adrian Alves wrote: > >am not following what u mean? > > > >On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 5:30 AM, Michael Schwendt >> wrote: > >On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 23:00:29 -0300, Adrian Alves wrote: > >

libwbxml-0.11.1 has changed license from (LGPLv2+ and GPLv2+) to (LGPLv2+)

2012-06-04 Thread Petr Pisar
Upstream released new bug-fixing version of libwbxml. Besides other improvements, this versions relicenses the only GPLv2+ file to LGPLv2+ making the whole package covered by LGPLv2+ now. -- Petr -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: Update bodhi Notes?

2012-06-04 Thread Neal Becker
Matej Cepl wrote: > On 04/06/12 13:01, Neal Becker wrote: >> I pushed a release to updates-testing, but I'd like to update the Notes for >> this >> release. How should I do this? > > Log to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ find the update and > change it? What's the problem with that? >

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 13:50 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Brian Wheeler wrote: > > > > How is this change a win? > > Unfortunately, due to Lennart's ignorance (we're all ignorant of > something), he will consider your e-mail "flame-bait" and not reply. Its not his ignorance - he's on vacat

[Bug 828214] perl-Archive-Tar-1.88 is available

2012-06-04 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=828214 Petr Šabata changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED CC|

Re: Update bodhi Notes?

2012-06-04 Thread Matej Cepl
On 04/06/12 13:01, Neal Becker wrote: I pushed a release to updates-testing, but I'd like to update the Notes for this release. How should I do this? Log to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ find the update and change it? What's the problem with that? Matěj -- devel mailing list de

Re: Problem pairing mouse with F17

2012-06-04 Thread Digimer
On 06/03/2012 11:07 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 06/04/2012 02:30 AM, Digimer wrote: I can confirm that selinux is disabled (as sestatus shows 'disabled'). Any idea what I should next? File a bug report against Gnome-Bluetooth you can try running this "hciconfig hci0 sspmode 0" from

Review Request: mingw-clucene

2012-06-04 Thread Greg Hellings
I'm still looking for a review from a sponsor for the https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=825557 mingw-clucene package I submitted a week or so back. Is anyone free to offer sponsorship for a package? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

MALLOC_PERTURB_: everyone should set this envvar

2012-06-04 Thread Jim Meyering
I posted about MALLOC_PERTURB_ about a year ago, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/132690 but it is clear that not everyone is setting the variable, so for those who didn't take the time last year, or who are new to the subject, do yourself a favor and set MALLOC_PERTURB

Re: MATE 1.2

2012-06-04 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/04/2012 02:23 PM, Richard Körber wrote: > >> The outcome was that a bunch of people were deriding MATE and not >> wanting it in Fedora. > > And this is why after 12 years of Red Hat and Fedora, I'm now moving to > Linux Mint. I know I'm going to miss yum, but at least they support > Cinnamo

Orphaning ncpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Vitezslav Crhonek
Hi all, I'm orphaning ncpfs package (utilities for the ncpfs filesystem, a NetWare client for Linux). I don't have a access to NetWare and time to maintain the package. Ncpfs is pretty old, but it's still used. Written in C, upstream is not interested in it anymore. There are five opened bugs, t

fix common misspellings -- mostly mechanically

2012-06-04 Thread Jim Meyering
Even in mature projects full of nit-picky reviewers, it seems there are always a few misspelled words in comments, documentation, etc. Here's a recipe for correcting those. Hook this up as a "make check" dependent rule to prevent recurrence. First, get this http://github.com/lyda/misspell-check

Update bodhi Notes?

2012-06-04 Thread Neal Becker
I pushed a release to updates-testing, but I'd like to update the Notes for this release. How should I do this? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] Rawhide: /tmp is now on tmpfs

2012-06-04 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 02:20:02PM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > It, in fact, provides proof that this feature is searching for a > problem. Which applications require gigabytes per second throughput out > of /tmp? sort(1) and maybe mock(1) ;-) > (and your numbers for tmpfs would equal ext4

Self Introduction

2012-06-04 Thread Alexey I. Froloff
Hi, I am the new Fedora Package Collection Maintainer. I'm from Russia, my name is Alexey, but people call me "raorn" (begins with small letter "r"). I was Packager in ALT Linux distro for about eight years, my interests are IPv6, OpenFlow, Vim, zsh, mutt, ruby and WindowMaker. I'm familiar wit

Re: Reporting a bug on several components - rpath issue

2012-06-04 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2012-06-04 at 11:22 +0200, Nicolas Chauvet wrote: > Hi, > > > I was trying to check if packages on my system has defined a rpath (1) > , I've made a little script: > > # for f in $(ls /usr/lib64/*.so.* ) ; do chrpath ${f} &>/dev/null; > RETVAL=$?; if [ ! $RETVAL == 2 ] ; then chrpath ${

Reporting a bug on several components - rpath issue

2012-06-04 Thread Nicolas Chauvet
Hi, I was trying to check if packages on my system has defined a rpath (1) , I've made a little script: # for f in $(ls /usr/lib64/*.so.* ) ; do chrpath ${f} &>/dev/null; RETVAL=$?; if [ ! $RETVAL == 2 ] ; then chrpath ${f} ; rpm -qf ${f} ; echo "" ; fi; done This script reported around 70 rpat

Re: wine font changes system look and feel

2012-06-04 Thread Kamil Paral
> I'd like to brought to wider attention the bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693180 > > What's the matter? > > If you install wine, it brings as a dependency wine-tahoma font, that > is > then included in system wide fonts list. This causes the font to be > used > by application

Re: MATE 1.2

2012-06-04 Thread Richard Körber
The outcome was that a bunch of people were deriding MATE and not wanting it in Fedora. And this is why after 12 years of Red Hat and Fedora, I'm now moving to Linux Mint. I know I'm going to miss yum, but at least they support Cinnamon and Mate. I gave Gnome 3 a fair chance from its first

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> * 3rd attempt: >> Same as options as the 2nd attempt but this time I chose to enable >> only the F17 remote repositories and I disabled the "Install repo" so >> I presume all the packages were downloaded from the net. At about 85% >> of ins

Re: another upgrade, another disaster

2012-06-04 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:57 AM, Jan Synacek wrote: >>   yum groupinstall "GNOME Desktop Environment" > > This alone unfortunately doesn't do the trick. You will probably have to > >    yum groupinstall "X Window System" > > as well as some drivers for your graphic card to get it working. > > I als

Re: How can we make security updates faster?

2012-06-04 Thread David Tardon
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:58:00PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/29/2012 06:13 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: > >>> It makes no sense to have a gui application ( or an application for that > >>> matter ) without having written the relevant how to debug/how to test > >>> pages for each com

Re: How can we make security updates faster?

2012-06-04 Thread David Tardon
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 05:46:38AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 05/29/2012 05:21 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >We actually have this on the QA wishlist and it was one of the projects > >we proposed for GSoC for QA, but it didn't quite make it. We may still > >wind up doing it through