Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-04-18 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2012-04-17, Jindrich Novy wrote: > it seems to be the right time to do an unification/reorganization of > Oracle (Berkeley) DB packages in rawhide. [...] > What I'm planning to do is getting rid of db4 package. But before that > I want to clean-up compat-db for a bit. > Is it possible to handle

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Jon Masters
Hey guys, Cutting this sub-thread off at the pass :) I think it's obvious that we in the ARM project can do a better job at engagement, cohesion, and we can learn and improve in many ways. I would like to suggest that we steer this thread back toward the more abstract question at hand: that of se

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 01:34:00AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > On 04/19/2012 01:22 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > No, because it's not a requirement. In theory an SA could be perfectly > > suited for PA promotion without any real involvement with the Fedora > > community. It'd just be massively m

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:46:16PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > On 04/18/2012 06:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >Not really. The proposed criteria provide strong guidance. If you meet > >them all then you're probably fine. But the point isn't to be slaves to > >these criteria. It's to be active

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Jon Masters
On 04/19/2012 01:22 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:42:58AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: >> Hi Matthew, >> >> On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> >>> Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of >>> the Fedora community]. Your meetings h

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:42:58AM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of > > the Fedora community]. Your meetings happen on the phone and aren't > minuted. > > I am

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/18/2012 10:12 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:57:19PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On 04/18/2012 07:13 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: The kernel team may have their view skewed by how likely they think it is that a given architecture will be likely to force additional r

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 09:57:19PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > On 04/18/2012 07:13 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >The kernel team may have their view skewed by how likely they think it > >is that a given architecture will be likely to force additional > >rebuilds. So yes, the point of this docum

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/18/2012 07:13 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: Huh? The whole point of this item is that it's architecture neutral- the kernel team for security reasons believes it important that all kernel builds take less than 4 hours from start to finish. Why would a new architecture change that number? The

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/18/2012 06:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: Not really. The proposed criteria provide strong guidance. If you meet them all then you're probably fine. But the point isn't to be slaves to these criteria. It's to be active particpants in the Fedora development community. It's a big if for any

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Jon Masters
Hi Matthew, On 04/18/2012 09:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Right now I don't think ARM's doing a great job of that [being part of > the Fedora community]. Your meetings happen on the phone and aren't minuted. I am sorry that you feel that way. I think it is important to add some context to th

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-18 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 05:20 -0400, Kamil Paral wrote: > > One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because > > anaconda > > team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the > > anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has > > been proposing for

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 07:04:24PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > On 04/18/2012 06:42 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > [snip] > >>What if some forms of the hardware are desktop capable, others are > >>not, but the community only has an interest in supporting headless > >>installations? > > > >Then it'

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/18/2012 06:42 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: [snip] What if some forms of the hardware are desktop capable, others are not, but the community only has an interest in supporting headless installations? Then it's not fit to be a primary architecture. Okay, please add examples like this wherev

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 05:34:11PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > On 04/16/2012 02:20 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >If you manage that then I think most of the problems you're worried > >about go away. It'll be obvious to everyone whether or not you're ready > >to be a primary architecture at any

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 06:18:34PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > On 04/04/2012 03:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > >>Can we quantify what the overall experience is that must be > >>consistent? I understand Anaconda installations is considered a > >>part of this... except when it's not for EC2 ima

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/04/2012 03:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: Can we quantify what the overall experience is that must be consistent? I understand Anaconda installations is considered a part of this... except when it's not for EC2 images. What I'm looking for is "These 10 things are partof the Fedora experien

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/03/2012 08:31 AM, Peter Jones wrote: Look at it this way - if an arch is following the process to become primary, but during that process actually becomes *less* viable, or for whatever reason farther from being reasonable as a PA, the process needs to be such that that's something people s

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-18 Thread Brendan Conoboy
On 04/16/2012 02:20 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think a better way to think about this might be lie the packaging guidelines - they provide a set of technical constraints, but they don't tell you how to be part of the packaging community. I see SAs in the same kind of way. Secondary architecture

Fedora 16 and 17 build of httpd 2.4.x

2012-04-18 Thread Remi Collet
If you need a build of httpd 2.4.x to test some applications against the latest version of Apache web server, I have build backports of rawhide packages F16: http://rpms.famillecollet.com/fedora/16/devs/x86_64/repoview/ F17: http://rpms.famillecollet.com/fedora/17/devs/x86_64/repoview/ This tempo

typo corrections Re: rescue mode doest active lvm

2012-04-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2012-04-18 at 17:55 +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > Hi after read documentation > http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/ap-rescuemode.html > > seems that assume that lvm is active on process, but booting with > boot.iso , lvm is not activated in boot process. >

Re: rescue mode doest active lvm

2012-04-18 Thread Sérgio Basto
Hi after read documentation http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/16/html/Installation_Guide/ap-rescuemode.html seems that assume that lvm is active on process, but booting with boot.iso , lvm is not activated in boot process. so without do lvm vgchange -a y we can't see any /dev/mapper/... S

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-04-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 02:21:36PM +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: > Hi all, > > it seems to be the right time to do an unification/reorganization of > Oracle (Berkeley) DB packages in rawhide. The current situation is that > there are three of them: > > compat-db - shipping old libdbs for compatibil

Re: Fwd: Broken upgrade path(s) detected for: yaml-cpp

2012-04-18 Thread Sergio Belkin
2012/4/18 Mark Wielaard : > On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:41 -0400, Neil Horman wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:24:18PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> > Is something wrong? I just re-checked the updates I pushed and I did >> > push updates of the same EVR to both F15 and F16... >> > >> +1, I think s

Re: upcoming libdb/db4/compat-db reorganization

2012-04-18 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 09:27:23AM -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Joe Orton wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 02:21:36PM +0200, Jindrich Novy wrote: > >>> So the plan is: > >>> 1) remove 4.5, 4.6 and 4.7 fro

Email Change Requested for kevin

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rawhide report: 20120418 changes

2012-04-18 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Apr 18 08:15:05 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [389-ds-base] 389-ds-base-1.2.11-0.1.a1.fc18.x86_64 requires libdb-5.2.so()(64bit) [aeolus-conductor] aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Mark Bidewell wrote: > > However, no GUI for installation is less than userfriendly >> > > did you give the VM 768MB or more RAM? > > It might not really need it anymore, but last I checked Anaconda > checked for it befo

Re: Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-18 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012, Mark Bidewell wrote: However, no GUI for installation is less than userfriendly did you give the VM 768MB or more RAM? It might not really need it anymore, but last I checked Anaconda checked for it before switching into gui install mode. Paul -- devel mailing list devel

Fedora 17 Beta Observations

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Bidewell
After trying the F17 Alpha with no success, I tried the F17 Beta. I installed in the VMWare Fusion Technical Preview (which supports Linux 3D Graphics). On install I was dumped into the text installer which installed a basic 211 package installation. Improved from the Alpha is that I could get a

F-17 Branched report: 20120418 changes

2012-04-18 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Apr 18 08:15:05 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [aeolus-conductor] aeolus-conductor-0.4.0-2.fc17.noarch requires ruby(abi) = 0:1.8 [aeolus-configserver] aeolus-configserver-0.4.5-1.fc17.noarch require

Re: Fwd: Broken upgrade path(s) detected for: yaml-cpp

2012-04-18 Thread Mark Wielaard
On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 13:41 -0400, Neil Horman wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:24:18PM -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Is something wrong? I just re-checked the updates I pushed and I did > > push updates of the same EVR to both F15 and F16... > > > +1, I think something is wrong with the repor

RFE: kickstart repo config shoudl be allowed to accept --overwrite_groups

2012-04-18 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
hi, yum repo conf accepts overwrite_groups, but kickstart repo config does not seem to accept --overwrite_groups shouldn't that be easy to add ? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> One angle on this that didn't get pointed out, I guess because > anaconda > team apparently isn't reading, is that at least one person on the > anaconda team - I forget who - hates liveinst with a passion and has > been proposing forever to kill it and replace it with a choice on the > live image

Re: Broken upgrade path(s) detected for: yaml-cpp

2012-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> In addition, I had fixed the script to properly support > updates-testing > repositories eons ago (should not compare fn-1-updates-testing with > fn- > updates), but my patch (attached) was never merged because the script > was to > be obsoleted by AutoQA anyway according to Jesse Keating. AutoQ

Re: Dependencies on Bodhi Updates

2012-04-18 Thread Kamil Paral
> > Having this implemented manually would be great. In the future I'd > > like to replace it with automatic process managed by AutoQA. AutoQA > > would say Bodhi "this update can be only pushed together with this > > other update, because the first one depends on the second one". The > > maintaine

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-18 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 17.4.2012 20:51, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 10:04 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we not include some