F-17 Branched report: 20120405 changes

2012-04-04 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Thu Apr 5 01:12:03 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

Re: Xfce 4.10pre1 in rawhide

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
ok. I have landed 4.10pre1 packages in rawhide, so they should be in tomorrow's compose. I'm sure there's going to be some plugins that break, I will work on fixing them as I am able. I also have a f17 repo with the same packages available: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/repos/kevin/xfce-4.10/

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-04-04 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 1:50 AM, Remi Collet wrote: > Le 29/03/2012 07:40, Remi Collet a écrit : >> I'm still searching for a good solution I can submit to upstream for >> packages I maintained (ok, this is mainly an issue on debian-like distro). > > What do you think of > >         >            

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 12:01:13AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > There is no path to sure success. That's not how this works. > > On the flip side I don't believe it's unachievable, I hope I'm not wrong. I'd be surprised if ARM doesn't

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:10:12PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > >> > as such there are various expectations that the overall Fedora >> > experience will be consistent over all primary architectures. >> >> Can we quantify what the overall

Hello!

2012-04-04 Thread Brown, David M JR
Fedora Packagers, I've been working through the Package Maintainers Join page and one of the things to do is to send an introduction to the Fedora Devel list, so here it is. Hi! It's been a while since I've done Open Source Distribution work but I've gotten into a serious job since then and hav

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:10:12PM -0700, Brendan Conoboy wrote: > > as such there are various expectations that the overall Fedora > > experience will be consistent over all primary architectures. > > Can we quantify what the overall experience is that must be > consistent? I understand Anacond

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > Does Fedora exist outside of the US (on the books)? Surely there must be a > way to dissociate Redhat US sponsorship to an international non-profit that > represents Fedora? Been there, tried that... still have the scars. I'm happy to share

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > On 04/04/2012 09:45 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: >> >> On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:40 PM, DJ Delorie  wrote: >>> >>> So between sponsoring cons, travel, hardware, etc... what can *only* >>> be done with Red Hat Cash?  Is there anything that an indiv

[perl-Test-Unit-Runner-Xml/el6: 6/6] BR: perl(Time::HiRes)

2012-04-04 Thread Xavier Bachelot
commit 840afcac9175e0396704396cd5ef48cb33940bab Author: Xavier Bachelot Date: Wed Apr 4 21:57:24 2012 +0200 BR: perl(Time::HiRes) perl-Test-Unit-Runner-Xml.spec |6 +- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Test-Unit-Runner-Xml.spec b/perl-Test-Unit

[perl-Test-Unit-Runner-Xml/el6: 5/6] Merge branch 'master' into el6

2012-04-04 Thread Xavier Bachelot
commit 0c1d26729ced4d11748b7f4b01146a0aebb0bc08 Merge: 9fe0038 1809222 Author: Xavier Bachelot Date: Wed Apr 4 21:54:45 2012 +0200 Merge branch 'master' into el6 perl-Test-Unit-Runner-Xml.spec | 14 +- 1 files changed, 13 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- -- Fedora Extras Pe

[perl-Test-Unit-Runner-Xml/el6] (6 commits) ...BR: perl(Time::HiRes)

2012-04-04 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Summary of changes: 244a661... - 661697 rebuild for fixing problems with vendorach/lib (*) 4b4d11f... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Mass (*) 8b624fc... Perl mass rebuild (*) 1809222... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Mass (*) 0c1d267... Mer

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Brendan Jones
On 04/04/2012 09:45 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: So between sponsoring cons, travel, hardware, etc... what can *only* be done with Red Hat Cash? Is there anything that an individual cannot say "I'll pay for that (and/or buy that) for you" ? Abso

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 3:01 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Perhaps we need to separate all ( legal? ) connections to Red Hat ( Red Hat > would then just donate via the same method than anyone else ) to make this > work or directly donate money/hw/stuff directly to each individual SIG's > rep

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:40 PM, DJ Delorie wrote: > So between sponsoring cons, travel, hardware, etc... what can *only* > be done with Red Hat Cash?  Is there anything that an individual > cannot say "I'll pay for that (and/or buy that) for you" ? Absolutely. An individual or organization can s

[389-devel] revised - please review ticket20 - Allow automember to work on entries that have already been added

2012-04-04 Thread Mark Reynolds
Used slapi_dn instead of a char for the base dn in the tasks. Thanks Noriko for pointing that out! https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/20 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/20/0001-Ticket-20-Allow-automember-to-work-on-entries-that-h.patch Thanks, Mark -- 389-devel mailing list

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/04/2012 05:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: It is not just US law. Most countries have similar rules in place for non-profits due a long history of them being used as fronts for governments and corporations for tax-dodging, espionage, bribery, and other shenanigans. In this case the US la

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 11:29:06 -0700 Jesse Keating wrote: > On 4/4/12 11:28 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Ok, giving money won't work, and the tax stuff is a mess. Let's > > ignore that for a second. > > > > What about equipment? > > > > Consider: if a box showed up at PHX, which contained hardware th

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 4 April 2012 12:28, DJ Delorie wrote: > > Ok, giving money won't work, and the tax stuff is a mess.  Let's > ignore that for a second. > > What about equipment? > > Consider: if a box showed up at PHX, which contained hardware that met > the technology requirements of PHX, with a note that said

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> Hardware is likely classified in tax code as an asset, where as food > at a conference is not. Well, it's an asset until you eat it :-) Ok, that explains things. Legal technicality, but still a workable process. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> Used. There is a process for donating hardware in place, and it's been > used before. Ok, so it sounds like there's a method in place for entities-with-cash to use that cash to benefit Fedora, as long as they are OK with not getting the tax break and they're willing to go through a little eff

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
> To be clear, it would be used but ownership still resides with whomever > purchased the hardware. Really? You can't donate hardware, you can only let Fedora borrow it? If you sponsor catering at a con, do you need to get the food back at some point too? Sounds like a silly distinction. -- de

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 4/4/12 11:28 AM, DJ Delorie wrote: >> >> Ok, giving money won't work, and the tax stuff is a mess.  Let's >> ignore that for a second. >> >> What about equipment? >> >> Consider: if a box showed up at PHX, which contained hardware that met

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread DJ Delorie
Ok, giving money won't work, and the tax stuff is a mess. Let's ignore that for a second. What about equipment? Consider: if a box showed up at PHX, which contained hardware that met the technology requirements of PHX, with a note that said "here, yours, no strings attached" - what would happen

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > Does that mean the only cold hard cash Fedora receives is from Redhat? Ie. > all travel allownaces etc cmoe from that support? Yes. We've had other companies help sponsor FUDCon events (thank you!) and donate equipment, bandwidth, etc., but

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Brendan Jones
On 04/04/2012 03:31 PM, Jared K. Smith wrote: I, for one, would *love* to find a way for Fedora to be able to accept funds from outside groups. I'm not complaining about Red Hat here -- I think they've been a great corporate sponsor of the Fedora Project, and I don't personally see the need for

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 04/04/2012 06:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: >> What I think would be really helpful would be a menu item (next to >> the liveinst one) on the live images which does the same magic to >> autodetect and mount /mnt/sysimage as the rescue disk does, but >> from within the graphi

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 4 April 2012 07:31, Jared K. Smith wrote: > On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" > wrote: > Now, for the ugly part.  One of the many complications is that if a US > non-profit receives the majority of its funding and support from a > single corporate entity, that the non-pr

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2012 06:00 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> This should work as long as the rescue CD finds all your file >> systems and mounts them in the right place (inc. bind mounts for >> /proc, /sys, /dev). If not then setting them by

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
On 4/4/2012 6:17 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:32:39 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: > >> Sheepdog update can be done in a separate update. If provenpackager can >> make a ticket that would suffice. I don´t/didn´t test sheepdog. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sheepd

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > This should work as long as the rescue CD finds all your file systems > and mounts them in the right place (inc. bind mounts for /proc, /sys, > /dev). If not then setting them by hand isn't a big deal. It's still a text-only environment. What I think would be really helpfu

Re: KDE and Evolution

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Mike Chambers wrote: > Soo, things will go back to how was in F16 for now, as in just kwallet > and gnome-keyring installed by default? Yes. Any further F17 composes should be picking up the comps change we made, making ksecrets optional. > Hell shouldn't ksecrets be taken out for now anyway sin

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:40:52 +0200, AL (Alec) wrote: > >>https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-4877 > >> Also, voting +1 on your own updates is being frowned upon. Even more so, > >> if the stable karma threshold is just 1. We assume the update submitter > >> is happy with the s

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 13:32:39 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: > Sheepdog update can be done in a separate update. If provenpackager can > make a ticket that would suffice. I don´t/didn´t test sheepdog. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/sheepdog-0.3.0-2.fc17 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedo

[Test-Announce] Fedora 17 Beta Release Candidate 3 (RC3) Available Now!

2012-04-04 Thread Andre Robatino
As per the Fedora 17 schedule [1], Fedora 17 Beta Release Candidate 3 (RC3) is now available for testing. Content information, including changes, can be found at https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5141 . Please see the following pages for download links (including delta ISOs) and testing instr

Re: Orphaning rekonq and taking a step back from Fedora

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Eelko Berkenpies wrote: > Besides that I'm taking a step back from Fedora and Fedora Development for > multiple reasons. Two (and most important) of them being lack of time and > switching operating systems at work. Thank you for your efforts on behalf of Fedora, a

[389-devel] please review ticket #20 - Allow automember to work on entries that have already been added

2012-04-04 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/20 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/20/0001-Ticket-20-Allow-automember-to-work-on-entries-that-h.patch Thanks, Mark -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: Orphaning rekonq and taking a step back from Fedora

2012-04-04 Thread Rex Dieter
Eelko Berkenpies wrote: > Hi All, > > At this point I'm orphaning the package rekonq, feel free to take it if > you want. Rekonq is a awesome little (webkit based) webrowser with > potential to become the standard "stock" browser in some distro's. > > Besides that I'm taking a step back from Fed

Re: KDE and Evolution

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Chambers
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:31 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Caterpillar wrote: > > is KSecret, the KDE wallet? > > KSecrets aims at being a unified wallet providing both the KWallet and > gnome-keyring interfaces, i.e. it wants to replace both KWallet and gnome- > keyring. But unfortunately, the KWa

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:44 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > Could you clarify whether the problem is that there is no way to donate at > all, or that the donors cannot write the donations off their taxes? Both. Red Hat has no way to accept outside money on behalf of Fedora, and since Red Hat is a

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-04 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 09:55 -0800, Jef Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > > How bout adding/changing the icon for installing? Can we not include some > > text in the icon? "Install Fedora" somehow?? > > Actually... would it make sense to force a notifica

[perl-GraphViz/f17] (2 commits) ...Cleanup.

2012-04-04 Thread corsepiu
Summary of changes: 7ee90a2... Upstream update. (*) 31f1363... Cleanup. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://

[perl-GraphViz] Cleanup.

2012-04-04 Thread corsepiu
commit 31f13638aa59341c098919718a2fdd71eeceb58c Author: Ralf Corsépius Date: Wed Apr 4 15:45:28 2012 +0200 Cleanup. .gitignore |1 - 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore b/.gitignore index d57a18c..66d79e9 100644 --- a/.gitignore +++ b/.gitignor

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 04/04/2012 09:31 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: Now, for the ugly part. One of the many complications is that if a US non-profit receives the majority of its funding and support from a single corporate entity, that the non-profit begins to look like a tax shelter, and at least under US law, that

Re: Feedback on secondary architecture promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:23 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > I for one would think the project could be categorized as not for profit > organization. I'm not an attorney, and don't play one on the Internet, and I don't pretend to have a completely understanding of all the nuances and details,

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-04 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 04/04/2012 01:36 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:51:08AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: drago01 wrote: We could just make anaconda remove everything in /tmp ... done. First of all, renaming it as Simo Sorce suggested makes more sense. But secondly, what you both miss is tha

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
On 4/4/2012 2:24 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:09:07PM +0200, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: >> On 4/4/2012 1:36 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: >>

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
On 4/4/2012 2:24 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:09:07PM +0200, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: >> On 4/4/2012 1:36 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: >>

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 02:09:07PM +0200, Fabio M. Di Nitto wrote: > On 4/4/2012 1:36 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> with one of the lates

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
On 4/4/2012 1:36 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some >>> API/ABI. All packages have been r

Re: /tmp on tmpfs (was: Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02))

2012-04-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.04.12 09:31, Jonathan Underwood (jonathan.underw...@gmail.com) wrote: > On 2 April 2012 20:58, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >> * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - > >>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmp

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Manilone
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:28 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > On 04/04/2012 12:06 PM, Mike Manilone wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 11:59 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >> Maybe it would be an idea to extend livecd-tools to allow a live > >> image to be installed to the hard disk and booted via grub

F-17 Branched report: 20120404 changes

2012-04-04 Thread Fedora Branched Report
Compose started at Wed Apr 4 08:15:04 UTC 2012 Broken deps for x86_64 -- [HippoDraw] HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.i686 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-devel-1.21.3-2.fc17.x86_64 requires python-numarray HippoDraw-

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Alec Leamas
On 04/04/2012 01:36 PM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: Hi all, with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some API/ABI. All packages have been rebuilt and they

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 12:23:17PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some > > API/ABI. All packages have been rebuilt and they are waiting for updates > > to be

Re: /tmp on tmpfs (was: Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02))

2012-04-04 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Apr 04, 2012 at 11:51:08AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > drago01 wrote: > > We could just make anaconda remove everything in /tmp ... done. > > First of all, renaming it as Simo Sorce suggested makes more sense. > > But secondly, what you both miss is that not everyone upgrades using > An

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
On 4/4/2012 12:23 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some >> API/ABI. All packages have been rebuilt and they are waiting for updates >> to be available. >> >> I also r

[perl-MooseX-Role-XMLRPC-Client] update to 0.06

2012-04-04 Thread Iain Arnell
commit a0e8cebe3904d21fec618ebdc84c00cee7aa4ab0 Author: Iain Arnell Date: Wed Apr 4 05:28:26 2012 -0600 update to 0.06 .gitignore |1 + perl-MooseX-Role-XMLRPC-Client.spec | 23 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files c

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2012 12:13 PM, Mike Manilone wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:05 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: >> This can be done with install dvd, troublshoot > recsue installed >> system chmod /mnt/sysimage (iirc) startx > If there's a grub entry will be mor

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2012 12:06 PM, Mike Manilone wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 11:59 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: >> Maybe it would be an idea to extend livecd-tools to allow a live >> image to be installed to the hard disk and booted via grub to >> allow a grap

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2012 12:05 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 04/04/12 11:38, Mike Manilone wrote: >> Hi there, >> >> I think if there's a "Graphical Rescue Mode" ("GRM"), > > This can be done with install dvd, troublshoot > recsue installed > system chmod /mnt/s

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/04/12 12:13, Mike Manilone wrote: On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:05 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: This can be done with install dvd, troublshoot> recsue installed system chmod /mnt/sysimage (iirc) startx If there's a grub entry will be more user-friendly. Only if they then know what to do. Ho

File Role-Tiny-1.000001.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by iarnell

2012-04-04 Thread Iain Arnell
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Role-Tiny: f563b6f0c9fea55349aa0ff23240268c Role-Tiny-1.01.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Manilone
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:05 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote: > This can be done with install dvd, > troublshoot > recsue installed system > chmod /mnt/sysimage (iirc) > startx If there's a grub entry will be more user-friendly. However, if the DVD broke, what can I do? signature.asc Description: This

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Manilone
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 19:06 +0800, Mike Manilone wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 11:59 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > Maybe it would be an idea to extend livecd-tools to allow a live image > > to be installed to the hard disk and booted via grub to allow a > > graphical environment to boot up whe

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Manilone
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 11:59 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > Maybe it would be an idea to extend livecd-tools to allow a live image > to be installed to the hard disk and booted via grub to allow a > graphical environment to boot up when the main install is hosed for > some reason. Surely it also wo

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/04/12 11:38, Mike Manilone wrote: Hi there, I think if there's a "Graphical Rescue Mode" ("GRM"), This can be done with install dvd, troublshoot > recsue installed system chmod /mnt/sysimage (iirc) startx -- Regards, Frank "Jack of all, fubars" -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapr

Re: Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2012 11:38 AM, Mike Manilone wrote: > I think if there's a "Graphical Rescue Mode" ("GRM"), that would > be great and friendly to end-users. I know many users who can't > rescue their systems from a shell. The work needs a lot of > knowledge a

Re: plug software for fender mustang

2012-04-04 Thread Ian Malone
On 4 April 2012 10:42, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Ian Malone wrote: >> Is it acceptable to repackage the tarball too? The prep stage seems to >> expect a particular structure within it. > > %setup takes some arguments to deal with strange tarballs. > That looks like the thing, thanks for the pointer.

Graphical Rescue Mode

2012-04-04 Thread Mike Manilone
Hi there, I think if there's a "Graphical Rescue Mode" ("GRM"), that would be great and friendly to end-users. I know many users who can't rescue their systems from a shell. The work needs a lot of knowledge about Linux and shell. But a new user can't learn soon or even they never want to learn ab

Re: KDE and Evolution

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Caterpillar wrote: > is KSecret, the KDE wallet? KSecrets aims at being a unified wallet providing both the KWallet and gnome-keyring interfaces, i.e. it wants to replace both KWallet and gnome- keyring. But unfortunately, the KWallet interface in KSecrets is not ready yet and the gnome-keyring

Re: Issue with patches on gdesklets

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Luya Tshimbalanga wrote: > I have an issue rebuilding a gdesklets package using koji. According to > the task: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3962388 > > Hunks seemed to be rejected. Can anyone check what went wrong. %patch2 needs to be applied with -p1, not -p0. Ke

Re: /tmp on tmpfs

2012-04-04 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/04/2012 04:31 AM, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 2 April 2012 20:58, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - >>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Peter Robinson wrote: >> It's already been stated that 3D isn't a blocker for PA, but that the >> needs to be reasonable GUI support similar to that of the mainline >> project. > > "reasonable GUI support" already includes 3D in GNOME, and wit

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: > So, we decided for F16 that we don't want to add extensions like that to > the shell that we ship on the live cd. It should be the default > experience. I think that's a very bad (and dogmatic) decision. We should ship what's best for our users (of Fedora), not what's 100

Re: help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 04 Apr 2012 09:23:16 +0200, FMDN (Fabio) wrote: > Hi all, > > with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some > API/ABI. All packages have been rebuilt and they are waiting for updates > to be available. > > I also re-built sheepdog > (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Chris Murphy wrote: > The problem is nothing shows up on Gnome 3's desktop, even items in the > Desktop folder (which is just...it's asinine there's no polite way to say > it.) I agree with that. KDE upstream recently also dropped the default folder view from their default Plasma setup, we (KDE S

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Robinson wrote: > It's already been stated that 3D isn't a blocker for PA, but that the > needs to be reasonable GUI support similar to that of the mainline > project. "reasonable GUI support" already includes 3D in GNOME, and with the developments in Qt 5, chances are the same will become

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miloslav Trmač wrote: > AFAICT there is a clear FESCo consensus that the list can not be > exhaustive. That's good news. > Essentially, asking for a promise to promote automatically if a > checklist is met is equivalent to asking for permission to promote > even if the software is known to be bro

Re: Feedback on secondary architecute promotion requirements draft

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Robinson wrote: > I agree, anything that is going to take that length of time is still > really a secondary arch. Indeed, it sounds obvious to me that the only reasonable reaction to a sunset clause is to automatically reject the promotion request, not to automatically accept it!

Re: /tmp on tmpfs (was: Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02))

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
drago01 wrote: > We could just make anaconda remove everything in /tmp ... done. First of all, renaming it as Simo Sorce suggested makes more sense. But secondly, what you both miss is that not everyone upgrades using Anaconda, there's also plain yum. Seeing more and more black magic getting ad

Re: Meeting minutes FESCo (2012-03-26)

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > I mean, look, what is it fesco wants? They want a rotating chair. Which > effectively means that a single, fairly rote task - announce a meeting > is going to happen, chair the meeting, send out minutes from the meeting > - is going to be done so infrequently by such a larg

Re: Issue with patches on gdesklets

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 21:08:53 -0700, LT (Luya) wrote: > Greetings, > > I have an issue rebuilding a gdesklets package using koji. According to > the task: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3962388 > > Hunks seemed to be rejected. Can anyone check what went wrong. Thanks in >

Re: plug software for fender mustang

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ian Malone wrote: > Is it acceptable to repackage the tarball too? The prep stage seems to > expect a particular structure within it. %setup takes some arguments to deal with strange tarballs. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: httpd 2.4 is coming, RFC on module packaging draft

2012-04-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Remi Collet wrote: > Once again : mod_access_compat is not the solution. > > mod_access_compat doesn't work as expected, > see my other posts in this thread. We need to get this fixed upstream, a compatibility module which is not compatible is quite broken. Kevin Kofler -- devel maili

Re: Meeting minutes FESCo (2012-03-26)

2012-04-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 08:25 +0200, David Tardon wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 11:23:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 14:29 +0200, David Tardon wrote: > > > Or do we really need a policy/process/guideline for _everything_? > > > > I tend to find it's a good idea. It h

Re: /tmp on tmpfs (was: Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02))

2012-04-04 Thread Karel Zak
On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:58:12PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs (mitr, 17:40:06) > > * AGREED: tmp-on-tmpfs is accepted (+5 -3)

Re: /tmp on tmpfs (was: Re: Summary/Minutes for today's FESCo meeting (2012-04-02))

2012-04-04 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 2 April 2012 20:58, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 08:32:56PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> * #834 F18 Feature: /tmp on tmpfs - >>   http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/tmp-on-tmpfs  (mitr, 17:40:06) >>   * AGREED: tmp-on-tmpfs is accepted (+5 -3)  (mitr, 18:12:52) Do

Re: Orphaning rekonq and taking a step back from Fedora

2012-04-04 Thread Eelko Berkenpies
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Eelko Berkenpies wrote: > Hi All, > > At this point I'm orphaning the package rekonq, feel free to take it if > you want. > Sorry for all the fuzz but apparently I was also maintaining the package "taglib-extras". I'm also orphaning that package for pretty much t

Orphaning rekonq and taking a step back from Fedora

2012-04-04 Thread Eelko Berkenpies
Hi All, At this point I'm orphaning the package rekonq, feel free to take it if you want. Rekonq is a awesome little (webkit based) webrowser with potential to become the standard "stock" browser in some distro's. Besides that I'm taking a step back from Fedora and Fedora Development for multiple

[Test-Announce] Power Management Test Day today (Tuesday 2012-04-04)

2012-04-04 Thread Adam Williamson
Hi, folks! Just wanted to remind everyone that along with Beta testing, it's Test Day time again today: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-04-04_Power_Management We'll be looking at power management. This is a regular Test Day so it should go off nice and smoothly, and of course it's of

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-04 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 4, 2012, at 1:35 AM, Kamil Paral wrote: > > Doesn't it block any other notifications being displayed? Or won't subsequent > notifications hide it? > > If we can keep it displayed until manually dismissed and it won't block any > other notifications to pop up, then it seems like a good

Re: Install Fedora Button for LiveCD

2012-04-04 Thread Kamil Paral
> > That is a good idea that can be probably implemented very easily. > > > > However, what is the benefit over a persistent button in the top > > panel? > > I believe its adequately provides a solution to meet all constraints > so far expressed in this discussion. > > 1) Notice on login with but

help updating sheepdog in F17

2012-04-04 Thread Fabio M. Di Nitto
Hi all, with one of the latest updates of corosync, we had to break some API/ABI. All packages have been rebuilt and they are waiting for updates to be available. I also re-built sheepdog (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=310076) but i don´t have super powers to push the upda

Re: Meeting minutes FESCo (2012-03-26)

2012-04-04 Thread sankarshan
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > Could I suggest that, if FESCo is going to have a different chair each > week, you at least have an SOP for arranging the meetings, so that this > kind of thing is done consistently? And, if possible, include the meeting minutes list as

Re: Meeting minutes FESCo (2012-03-26)

2012-04-04 Thread David Tardon
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 11:23:04AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 14:29 +0200, David Tardon wrote: > > Or do we really need a policy/process/guideline for _everything_? > > I tend to find it's a good idea. It has lots of benefits and virtually > no drawbacks, except that som