On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:43:58 +0200
> Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
> > So what can we do to improve the situation?
> > 1. Can we bring back the language packs as part of the packages?
> > 2. Can the FF maintainers make su
Am 08.10.2011 23:43, schrieb Christoph Wickert:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
> * My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 10/08/2011 04:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > if there would be much more care by introducing new features/replacements
> > my understanding for the fear of update thmen after that would be much
> higher
> >
> > as long fedora is shootin
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 23:43:58 +0200
Christoph Wickert wrote:
...snip...
> So what can we do to improve the situation?
> 1. Can we bring back the language packs as part of the packages?
> 2. Can the FF maintainers make sure that all maintainers of
> extensions get notified of cha
On 10/08/2011 05:43 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
> is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
> release and breaks Firefox horribly:
>* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing tha
Since Mozilla switched to the new rapid release model, Firefox in Fedora
is no longer fun: Every 6 weeks a new major version hits our stable
release and breaks Firefox horribly:
* My favorite extensions (and actually the only thing that keeps
me using FF) stop working. In the last 7 w
On 10/08/2011 04:44 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> if there would be much more care by introducing new features/replacements
> my understanding for the fear of update thmen after that would be much higher
>
> as long fedora is shooting out new features without any care if they are
> really ready fdora
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
>> What Tomasz said, and if that doesn't help use bootchart and upload
>> the chart somewhere so I can see what's going on. Thanks,
>
> Here's my bootchart link before making any modificatio
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
> What Tomasz said, and if that doesn't help use bootchart and upload
> the chart somewhere so I can see what's going on. Thanks,
Here's my bootchart link before making any modifications:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/34775202/boot.png
Richard
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On 10/08/2011 09:15 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> Milan Broz wrote:
> > Truecrypt on Linux uses kernel dm-crypt, so it is all mainly about
> > metadata format handling.
> >
> > I will probably try to add alternative to cryptsetup
> > to handle directly Truecrypt format (which is documented on projec
Am 08.10.2011 22:36, schrieb Peter Robinson:
> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Short question:
>> PA 1.0 was released ~1 month ago.
>> According to the wine developers, the updated mmdevapi layer (the wine
>> layer that emulates the Windows sound system)
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Gilboa Davara wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Short question:
> PA 1.0 was released ~1 month ago.
> According to the wine developers, the updated mmdevapi layer (the wine
> layer that emulates the Windows sound system) more-or-less requires
> current PA (1.0?) to work relia
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:14:50 -0500
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>
>> On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> > If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated
>> > version of OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly.
>> >
On 08/10/11 01:15 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
> Milan Broz wrote:
> > Truecrypt on Linux uses kernel dm-crypt, so it is all mainly about
> > metadata format handling.
> >
> > I will probably try to add alternative to cryptsetup
> > to handle directly Truecrypt format (which is documented on
Am 08.10.2011 21:40, schrieb Kevin Fenzi:
> On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:14:50 -0500
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>
>> On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated
>>> version of OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly.
>>>
>>> What
Eerm, I mean recommended as not usable. Using padevchooser breaks most
PulseAudio environments even now, so don't use it.
2011/10/8 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ)
> There were a lot of changes[1], but the only program I know of that would
> absolutely break from those changes is padevchooser, which has lo
There were a lot of changes[1], but the only program I know of that would
absolutely break from those changes is padevchooser, which has long since
been recommended and not usable, since avahi takes care of that quite
nicely.
[1]: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/1.0
On S
2011/10/8 Rex Dieter
>
>
> > I might be completely off target on this one, but assuming that the
> > information I've gathered thus far is correct, read: assuming that
> > wine *requires* PA 1.0 to work reliably, will it possible to push PA
> > 1.0 as a post installation upgrade or alternatively,
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 14:14:50 -0500
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated
> > version of OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly.
> >
> > What happened to "First" in the 4 'F's?
> >
> > Our obje
2011/10/8 Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) :
> How would someone go about doing that, anyway?
https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/
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How would someone go about doing that, anyway?
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated version of
> > OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly.
> >
> > What happen
Milan Broz wrote:
> Truecrypt on Linux uses kernel dm-crypt, so it is all mainly about
> metadata format handling.
>
> I will probably try to add alternative to cryptsetup
> to handle directly Truecrypt format (which is documented on project
> page, outside of source), the same way I already
On 10/08/2011 01:15 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> If Ubuntu is doing a better job than us of shipping an updated version of
> OUR OWN FEATURE, we're failing very badly.
>
> What happened to "First" in the 4 'F's?
>
> Our objectives are NOT to deliver current software only 6+ months after the
> competit
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On 10/07/2011 08:53 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> hi
>
> i have two machines with the same USB3 card and massive problems
> with two different external disks - should this be a bugreport for
> the kernel? i am wondering about this troubles because AFAIK
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> I think it's too late for F16 to do such drastic changes. We are way
> after freeze. PA is a core component and should be tested thorugfully
> before including in release.
> Ubuntu shipped 0.99 snapshots for some time and had enough tests
> apparently.
If Ubuntu is doing a
Am 08.10.2011 19:34, schrieb Tomasz Torcz:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 12:23:04PM -0500, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote:
>> It might be better to make a case to bend the rules for PulseAudio and have
>> it included in Fedora 16. It could be problematic if more programs have
>> issues like wine where th
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>
>> I might be completely off target on this one, but assuming that the
>> information I've gathered thus far is correct, read: assuming that
>> wine *requires* PA 1.0 to work reliably, will it possible to push PA
>> 1.0 as a post installation u
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 12:23:04PM -0500, Conan Kudo (ニール・ゴンパ) wrote:
> It might be better to make a case to bend the rules for PulseAudio and have
> it included in Fedora 16. It could be problematic if more programs have
> issues like wine where they won't work with pre-1.0 PulseAudio properly or
It might be better to make a case to bend the rules for PulseAudio and have
it included in Fedora 16. It could be problematic if more programs have
issues like wine where they won't work with pre-1.0 PulseAudio properly or
reliably.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:04 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
>
>
> > I mi
> I might be completely off target on this one, but assuming that the
> information I've gathered thus far is correct, read: assuming that
> wine *requires* PA 1.0 to work reliably, will it possible to push PA
> 1.0 as a post installation upgrade or alternatively, using a personal
> repo?
I can
On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 17:49 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
>> On 10/07/2011 02:49 PM, Stanislav Ochotnicky wrote:
>>
>> > I know a lot of people wanted to have a discussion about this first,
>> > but since we had the opportunity to hack on thi
Hi,
quvi has been splitted by upstream in 3 differents tarballs : libquvi
(the lib), libquvi-scripts (lua scripts needed by libquvi), and the quvi
tool
I've created libquvi-scripts and libquvi packages and opened reviews :
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=744430 and
https://bugzilla
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Sat, 08.10.11 15:43, Gilboa Davara (gilb...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Short question:
>> PA 1.0 was released ~1 month ago.
>
> It was released 12 days ago.
My mistake.
>
>> According to the wine developers, the updated
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 15:11:06 +0200
Milan Broz wrote:
> Before this thread end in flame (as almost all discussions on this
> list :-)
>
> Truecrypt on Linux uses kernel dm-crypt, so it is all mainly about
> metadata format handling.
>
> I will probably try to add alternative to cryptsetup
> to h
On Sat, Oct 08, 2011 at 18:30:44 +0800,
Américo Wang wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:38:18 -0400,
> > Dave Jones wrote:
> >>
> >> The kernel-debug rpm should have everything you'd need.
> >
> > But I can't get the system to crash
On Sat, 08.10.11 15:43, Gilboa Davara (gilb...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Short question:
> PA 1.0 was released ~1 month ago.
It was released 12 days ago.
> According to the wine developers, the updated mmdevapi layer (the wine
> layer that emulates the Windows sound system) more-or-les
Hello all,
Short question:
PA 1.0 was released ~1 month ago.
According to the wine developers, the updated mmdevapi layer (the wine
layer that emulates the Windows sound system) more-or-less requires
current PA (1.0?) to work reliably. [1]
For now, sound is completely broken under wine on any of m
On 10/08/2011 04:17 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 10/08/2011 12:55 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
>> Is there any reason to use TrueCrypt, over the whole disk encryption
>> that Fedora already provides? LUKS "just works" afaict ...
>
> Does it? It is not easily accessible for a regular end us
Compose started at Sat Oct 8 08:15:28 UTC 2011
Broken deps for x86_64
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389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicuuc.so.46
389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 requires libicui18n.so.46
389-admin-1.1.23-1.fc17.i686 require
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:14 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2011 at 10:38:18 -0400,
> Dave Jones wrote:
>>
>> The kernel-debug rpm should have everything you'd need.
>
> But I can't get the system to crash to get a traceback. It just hangs.
> I tried using the sysrq commands and NM
On 7 October 2011 18:38, Aaron Gray wrote:
> On 7 October 2011 18:29, Soham Chakraborty wrote:
>
>> Is it possible for you to check the connection status by netstat when you
>> transfer a file? Also, once you start transferring a file, can you get the
>> PID and attach strace to it?
>>
>>
>
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