On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 02:14:28AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services
> are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and
> fpr dovecot i am not sure
That's because maintainers largely ignored systemd
integration furing F14 and F15 deve
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:21 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 14:08 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 14.06.11 07:25, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> > > > > What's the problem of having a specific hostname set up at boot
> > > > time ?
> > > >
> > > > The user
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> In this case, the most obvious candidates would probably be
> FreePascal/Lazarus and GPC, but porting to a completely different, more
> commonly used language (I'd suggest C++) might also be worth considering
> for upstream (depending on how hard it is to port to a Free Pascal
PS:
Paul Johnson wrote:
> I was wondering if there could be an exception here, since the code is
> actually available and open.
Have you even looked at that "source code"? I just have:
1. They refer to the Window$ download for the code. That's a .EXE file
created with some proprietary installer
Paul Johnson wrote:
> First, the (now open) code for OpenBugs is written in Object Pascal
> and it requires a compiler framework called "Black Box" which is, as
> far as I can understand, available only for MS Windows. The OpenBUGS
> team compiles that library, and then for linux we use some acces
playing with F15 on a test-vm seems for me most services
are not suing systemd, th eonly widely used is apache and
fpr dovecot i am not sure
* dbmail (pop3, imap, timesieved, lmtp)
* postfix
* postgrey
* mysqld
what is a little bit confusing is how to find out
what is enabled in which order, how
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Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Its worked super well for me (though less well with GNOME3's effects
> etc)... Can you point me to what you mean by the usual info into
> xorg.conf? to be clear, I don't want to run *my* session over VNC. I
> want to be able to connect to a remote users *current* s
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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> On 06/14/2011 04:42 PM, Jerry James wrote:
[snip]
>> Like Lucas, I can boot with selinux=0. I did so, and upgraded to
>> today's Rawhide packages. Since reinstalling selinux-policy and
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On 06/14/2011 04:42 PM, Jerry James wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Jerry James wrote:
>> I'm having the same problem with an i686 Rawhide virtual machine
>> (using KVM, on a Fedora 15 x86_64 host). The last few lines I see
>> before the ha
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 02:56:55AM +0200, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 02:42:15 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote:
> > and why does it STOP the boot-process at a point no network is
> > available?
>
> Mounts from /etc/fstab are considered required unless they are marked
> with the "nofail"
Hi,
With the help and advices from abadger1999, akurtakov and Haikel I put
together some code for a project called PackageDB-cli [1]*.
The idea is to provide packagers with a way to do in CLI what they do at
the moment on the website (so allowing them to manage their ACL without
going on the webs
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Jerry James wrote:
> I'm having the same problem with an i686 Rawhide virtual machine
> (using KVM, on a Fedora 15 x86_64 host). The last few lines I see
> before the hang are these:
Like Lucas, I can boot with selinux=0. I did so, and upgraded to
today's Rawhid
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 08:36:01PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> > in the same distribution without violating the FHS.
>
> interesting argument
> where do you find /run in the FHS
It will be very probably in the next FSH version, for more information
see http://bugs.linuxfoundation.org/show_bug.c
On 06/14/2011 12:40 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> I assume its either local intranet - or you've ssh tunneled port 5900 to
> be visible on your client machine where you're running vncviewer if
> your doing this over the internet.
Thanks, that's great. Yeah this is all VPN'd access so secured via
On 06/14/2011 01:55 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet
> wrote:
>
>
>> Its worked super well for me (though less well with GNOME3's effects
>> etc)... Can you point me to what you mean by the usual info into
>> xorg.conf? to be clear, I don't want to r
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 7:32 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> Its worked super well for me (though less well with GNOME3's effects
> etc)... Can you point me to what you mean by the usual info into
> xorg.conf? to be clear, I don't want to run *my* session over VNC. I
> want to be able to conne
On 06/14/2011 12:40 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:27:33AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
>> On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sane
Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 10:52 +0530, Rahul Sundaram a écrit :
> On 06/14/2011 10:27 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> > The upstream kernel is a rolling release with Linus' law of protect
> > users as much as possible.
> >
> >While a fresh released kernel in stable often gets a few updates and
>
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Are you sure it's not doing an fsck? (There's an open bug for that.)
I'm having the same problem with an i686 Rawhide virtual machine
(using KVM, on a Fedora 15 x86_64 host). The last few lines I see
before the hang are these:
Started ud
I checked it again - it is not me.
Boot stops at random points - for example last time it stops at:
"Configure read-only root support"
So it can't even relabel FS, because it happens mush farther.
But option "selinux=0" solves this problem.
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Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) said:
> > In this case you are not better/worse than before, once the network will
> > come up you'll add a script to change the hostname.
> > Setting it earlier in systemd makes no difference.
>
> You continue to avoid answering my question: WHY systemd, a se
Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 22:06 +0400, Lucas a écrit :
> May be I know what is going on. May be I did something.
FYI I have the same problem on my box. Was waiting for fixed 3.0 kernel
packages to report a bug. I suspect some kernel/systemd mismatch
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On 06/14/2011 02:32 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 11:24 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
>
> Its worked super well for me (though less well with GNOME3's effects
> etc)... Can you point me to what you mean by the usual info into
> xorg.conf? to be clear, I don't want to run *my* ses
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:27:33AM -0600, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> >> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
> >> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
> >
> >
> > And you
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said:
> > I thinkLennart is saying that on a 64 bit system they would have to go
> > to /usr/lib32
>
> No, there is no /usr/lib32.
Correct. /usr/lib is 32-bit libraries, /usr/lib64 is 64-bit libraries. (*)
My objection to putting 64-bit helper binaries
On 06/14/2011 11:24 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 12:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
>> On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
(unlike GNOME
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 06:48:43PM +0400, Lucas wrote:
> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
> then reboot and process stops on: Starting Remount Root FS. And nothing
> more, no errors, systemd hung.
Are you sure it's not doing an fsck? (There's an open bug f
On 06/14/2011 09:57 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 21:32, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>>>
> Do you see any errors?
Just checked it. Yum rei
On Tue, 14.06.11 21:32, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
> On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >
> >>> Do you see any errors?
> >>
> >> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
>
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:55:08PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> With sufficient amount of nutty hackery it may be possible to figure is
> out, but it will be either racy, or will require labeling (process
> groups? session ids? cgroups?) which, in general, is not reliable:
> processes can escape
On 06/14/2011 06:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>>> Do you see any errors?
>>
>> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
>> then reboot and process
>> stops on: Starting Remount Root FS. And nothing
On 06/14/2011 12:27 PM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
>> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>>> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
>>> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
>>
>>
>> And you can add some interestin
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 8:14 AM, Thomas Moschny
wrote:
> 2011/6/14 Itamar Reis Peixoto :
>> where I can get a list of internal identifiers
>
> "yum grouplist -v" shows them.
>
> Thomas Moschny
thank you, its very useful when you're talking to a spanish person,
because you can tell the english na
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:06:47AM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710646
>
> mdadm needs a fix to work with the new kernel versioning for 3.0 kernels.
> Milan Broz has a proposed patch and has asked for commit access to mdadm
> and no action has been tak
On 06/14/2011 07:31 AM, seth vidal wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
>> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
>
>
> And you can add some interesting tools around xfce which enhance,imo,
> its operation.
Do
http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=710646
mdadm needs a fix to work with the new kernel versioning for 3.0 kernels.
Milan Broz has a proposed patch and has asked for commit access to mdadm
and no action has been taken by the package owner in over a week since
the proposed patch has been po
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:54 -0500, Jon Ciesla wrote:
> > I decided to try to help the cause of Bayesian statistics and the open
> > source effort of the OpenBUGS group (http://www.openbugs.info/w/) by
> > making some packages. In case you are not a statistically-inclined
> > person, it is worth kn
> I decided to try to help the cause of Bayesian statistics and the open
> source effort of the OpenBUGS group (http://www.openbugs.info/w/) by
> making some packages. In case you are not a statistically-inclined
> person, it is worth knowing that Bayesian Updating with Gibbs Sampling
> (BUGS) ha
I decided to try to help the cause of Bayesian statistics and the open
source effort of the OpenBUGS group (http://www.openbugs.info/w/) by
making some packages. In case you are not a statistically-inclined
person, it is worth knowing that Bayesian Updating with Gibbs Sampling
(BUGS) has caused so
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[aprayther@apray-chs-e6420 ~]$ asciio
Using setup directory:'
Am 14.06.2011 16:36, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>> I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
>> prefixes xsession with ck-xinit-session which seems to start the
>> daemon on demand. It would be nice if xinit could be configured to not
>> use it.
>
> C
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 04:36:25PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
> > prefixes xsession with ck-xinit-session which seems to start the
> > daemon on demand. It would be nice if xinit could be configured to n
On 06/14/2011 06:36 AM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> You go quite farther than that.
>
> "We can now boot a system shell-free". *Shell-free*.
>
> You are not saying "driving boot process by shell scripts is slow
> because ... ... ..." (an argument I would agree with), you are
> aiming at *eliminating* s
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> I understand the inconsistency and it is indeed a bug in mount.
>
> Nevertheless you are missing the point. If X worked before (X=mounting
> at boot with fstab containing trailing slashes), and stops working now
> because of the change Y I
On Tue, 14.06.11 18:48, Lucas (macach...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > Do you see any errors?
>
> Just checked it. Yum reinstalled selinux-policy-targeted, then relabeling,
> then reboot and process
> stops on: Starting Remount Root FS. And nothing more, no errors, systemd hung.
Boot with "systemd.log
On 06/14/2011 04:38 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
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> On 06/14/2011 06:37 AM, Lucas wrote:
>> On 06/14/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>>> On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
>>>
The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
Especially
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
>> i think this would be a good idea
>>
>> PHP (my main language) is fighting with traling slash or not troubles
>> over all the years, but there is nothing to stop the boot-process and
>>
Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> I think the console-kit-daemon service can be disabled, but xinit
> prefixes xsession with ck-xinit-session which seems to start the
> daemon on demand. It would be nice if xinit could be configured to not
> use it.
ConsoleKit is not optional (at least in Fedora 7 to 15).
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 14:08 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 07:25, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> > > > What's the problem of having a specific hostname set up at boot
> > > time ?
> > >
> > > The user might want to change it?
> >
> > Does setting it at boot time pre
On 06/14/2011 04:02 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Ralf Corsepius wrote:
>> Multilib subdirs are arbitrary directory names. There is no convention
>> of them being named "lib*".
>
> There is, it's written in the FHS:
> http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATESSENTIAL
This
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
> i think this would be a good idea
>
> PHP (my main language) is fighting with traling slash or not troubles
> over all the years, but there is nothing to stop the boot-process and
> systemd is a very different level of software
Let's be clea
Lennart Poettering wrote:
> Well, but in which way is arch-dependent non-executable data any
> different from private binaries? I see no reason why one should live in
> libdir, and the other in libexecdir.
Arch-dependent libraries need to be multilib (both in lib and lib64), for
executables, only
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Multilib subdirs are arbitrary directory names. There is no convention
> of them being named "lib*".
PS: Actually this:
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#USRLIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATLIBRARI
is the relevant reference for /usr/lib (the other one was for
/lib).
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Multilib subdirs are arbitrary directory names. There is no convention
> of them being named "lib*".
There is, it's written in the FHS:
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#LIBLTQUALGTALTERNATEFORMATESSENTIAL
But I don't see anything banning =exec there!
K
On 06/13/2011 11:57 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
> Fedora could well benefit from switching to a rolling release model
> as well (no not rawhide - a controlled rolling release much as the
> kernel development follows).
I ran rolling release distros on my laptops for a while - Gentoo, then
Debian
Am 14.06.2011 15:15, schrieb Jeff Spaleta:
> Is directory path handling with regard to trailing slashes something
> worth adding as an autoQA test target in the future?Not just for
> mount but for a group of commands? Something worth considering? I'm
> happy to write the initial test scrip
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:25 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
> (unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
And you can add some interesting tools around xfce which enhance,imo,
its operation.
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Dne 14.6.2011 14:05, Heiko Adams napsal(a):
> my name is Heiko Adams, I am a professional Windows (please don't blame
> me for that :D)
No blame! We are sorry for you ;)
Welcome on board!
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On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM, drago01 wrote:
> Well you can't expect him to test every possible scenario (no matter
> how trivial it is). I never saw an fstab with a trailing slash so I
> wouldn't have though about testing it either.
Same here. I actually spent a good chunk of my _volunteer
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On 06/14/2011 04:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 13.06.11 18:18, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 10:17 +0200, drago01 wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
Hi Lenna
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On 06/14/2011 06:37 AM, Lucas wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
>>
>>> The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
>>> Especially for Daniel J Walsh, the addition of "enforcing=0" doesn't
2011/6/14 Ralf Corsepius :
>
> Well, I would agree to tolerating /usr/lib// (Which btw is the
> current defacto rule in Fedora practice) but would disagree otherwise,
> because
>
> - /usr/share (aka datadir) is reserved for "arch-independent data", i.e.
> should not contain executables and programs
On 06/14/2011 05:35 PM, Heiko Adams wrote:
> Hi,
> my name is Heiko Adams, I am a professional Windows (please don't blame
> me for that :D) Software developer and Fedora user since several years.
>
> A filed a review request for flyback
> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713122) becaus
On Tue, 14.06.11 07:25, Simo Sorce (s...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > What's the problem of having a specific hostname set up at boot
> > time ?
> >
> > The user might want to change it?
>
> Does setting it at boot time prevent you from changing it later ?
No, systemd will initialize it at boot and
Hi,
my name is Heiko Adams, I am a professional Windows (please don't blame
me for that :D) Software developer and Fedora user since several years.
A filed a review request for flyback
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=713122) because it was the
only backup software I found which allows
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 01:42:42PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> (anything they could do in shell scripts, but not they can't). This will
> feel good, right? You will be such an important guy!
I think most lurkers have understood you seem to have some personal
issues with Lennart. Please still sh
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 12:53 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> daemontools can be set up in a way than most init scripts are
> > no longer necessary. It also achieves parallelized start.
>
> This is bogus.
Amazingly deep argument. Can you do better than this?
> > > > > Hmm? systemd is an init s
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 13:14 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 14.06.11 12:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > > Slide 6:
> >
On 06/14/2011 04:56 PM, Steve Clark wrote:
> You already are maintaining multiple UI systems which seem to me to be
> much more complex than
> two different "init" systems.
Not the same thing at all. Maintenance of desktop environments doesn't
affect people outside a few people who do that. If
On 06/14/2011 07:08 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 06/14/2011 04:36 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
I never proposed having alternatives for each of the core systems
either... There is already a viable alternative that works. inittab
contains atm exactly one line... the one with the default runlevel...
an
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:53 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > Changing a machine hostname at random times is just asking for
> > trouble.
>
> Well, but it has been used in the past, and as definitely something we
> should support in one way or another.
Never said we shouldn't allow it to chang
On Tue, 14.06.11 07:14, Steve Clark (scl...@netwolves.com) wrote:
> On 06/14/2011 04:06 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >On Mon, 13.06.11 19:02, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:37 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
> >>>On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, Denys Vl
On Tue, 14.06.11 12:36, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Slide 6:
> > > "We can now boot a system shell-free"
> > >
> > > IOW: shell is bad, m
2011/6/14 Itamar Reis Peixoto :
> where I can get a list of internal identifiers
"yum grouplist -v" shows them.
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On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 13:35 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On 6/13/11 12:18 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>
> > Sloppy attitude like this is the reason just about any daemon
> > (more and more of which pop up like mushrooms in every new release,
> > I must add) eats at least a few megabytes of RAM.
>
>
On 06/14/2011 04:06 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Mon, 13.06.11 19:02, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 12:37 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 18:01 +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
We invoke sethostname() from inside systemd since that is one of
On 06/14/2011 04:36 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
> I never proposed having alternatives for each of the core systems
> either... There is already a viable alternative that works. inittab
> contains atm exactly one line... the one with the default runlevel...
> and /etc/fstab can be parsed differently if
2011/6/14 Rahul Sundaram :
> On 06/14/2011 03:15 PM, Rudolf Kastl wrote:
>> From experience... i prefer having two tools available atleast to do
>> every single job (especially when they exist) because then i have an
>> easy fallback if one fails. Having upstart installed on rawhide during
>> the f
On 06/14/2011 11:43 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
>> For what's left, eg ARM9+ that you can run normal Linux and Fedora on,
>> ipv6 is going to be workable if the memory allows. Looking a year or
>> two ahead, where "Embedded" will extend to Cortex A15 quad core, and
>> IPv6 will
Is not it easy to remove everything from:
default.target
basic.target
graphical.target
...
and then add whatever we want to start or to execute or mount?
I do not really care what systemd CAN do, but really care what it is doing on
my system.
So, may be some cleaning will be the wise solution.
On Tue, 14.06.11 12:17, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:42 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Mon, 13.06.11 18:01, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > Maybe. It's not up to a piece of software to decide.
> > > In Unix, admins should have
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Date-Manip:
4655901191bce84d8e089b6c9d542e1e Date-Manip-6.24.tar.gz
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On 06/14/2011 04:13 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> I talk to a lot of embedded people. Tiny machines are not going to
> disappear anytime soon - they just go into smaller and smaller gadgets.
>
> For example, there are still a noticeable segment of NOMMU CPUs, meaning
> if you really target embedded,
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On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 11:31 +0100, "Andy Green (林安廸)" wrote:
> >> Dude, systemd requires the functionality of the three modules it loads
> >> explicitly.
> >
> > systemd requires ipv6.
> > And you pitch systemd to be used by embedded devices.
> >
> > Do you really think all embedded devices will be
On 06/14/2011 02:10 PM, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
>
>> The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
>> Especially for Daniel J Walsh, the addition of "enforcing=0" doesn't make
>> any difference - boot stops.
>>
>> Thanks.
>
> Last time I had similar problem, e
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On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:20 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 13.06.11 22:46, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > Slide 6:
> > "We can now boot a system shell-free"
> >
> > IOW: shell is bad, my new shiny toy is good.
>
> Oh god. If you had listened you'd have understood that
On 06/14/2011 11:17 AM, Somebody in the thread at some point said:
Hi -
>> Dude, systemd requires the functionality of the three modules it loads
>> explicitly.
>
> systemd requires ipv6.
> And you pitch systemd to be used by embedded devices.
>
> Do you really think all embedded devices will be
I've installed XFCE. It was easy to install, and it works sanely
(unlike GNOME 3 / Unity).
Rich.
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Michael Schwendt gmail.com> writes:
> Wrong terminology used here. "Karma" in bodhi is unrelated to who can
> publish updates there. You've requested "commit" access for cvsgraph EPEL
> 6 in pkgdb, and Marek would need to approve that request.
>
> http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/cvsgraph
> https:/
On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 09:42 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 13.06.11 18:01, Denys Vlasenko (dvlas...@redhat.com) wrote:
> > Maybe. It's not up to a piece of software to decide.
> > In Unix, admins should have power to decide, not programs.
> > Programs provide the means, they don't dicta
On 06/14/2011 11:57 AM, 80 wrote:
> 2011/6/14 Ralf Corsepius:
>> On 06/14/2011 12:26 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>>> Haïkel Guémar wrote:
I spent some time yesterday talking with opensuse guys on irc, since
/usr/libexec has not been blessed by FHS
>> libexecdir is GNU Standards for ages (deca
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 19:16:16 +1000, BS wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Anyone knows how to contact cvsgraph maintainer (Marek Mahut)? Bug is
> here:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=709923
>
> I already built the package for EL6, but don't have enough karma to put
> it in bodhi. It's a re
On 14/06/11 11:02, Lucas wrote:
> The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
> Especially for Daniel J Walsh, the addition of "enforcing=0" doesn't make any
> difference - boot stops.
>
> Thanks.
Last time I had similar problem, ended up:
rpm -e --nodeps selinux-policy selinux-policy-
My laptop can't finish boot with systemd-28-4.fc16 and
kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16 - the boot
process just stops at random points and CPU usage goes high.
systemd-28-3.fc16 and kernel-3.0-0.rc2.git0.2.fc16 - did not have this behavior.
The only possible way to boot is to add "selinux=0".
Espec
2011/6/14 Ralf Corsepius :
> On 06/14/2011 12:26 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Haïkel Guémar wrote:
>>> I spent some time yesterday talking with opensuse guys on irc, since
>>> /usr/libexec has not been blessed by FHS
> libexecdir is GNU Standards for ages (decades).
>
> It's supposed to be kind of an
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