Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread drago01
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:03:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: >> >> for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to the first >> version >> of RHL (4.0) I started using back in 96. >> > This is somewhat misleading.  There ha

Re: Packaging cross toolchains with different versions

2011-06-11 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi Ralf: --- On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: | A Fedora supplied rtems4.11 toolchain package's spec should be named | i386-rtems4.11-binutils.spec (rsp. the package be named | i386-rtems4.11-binutils). \-- I shall follow the same. Thanks for your reply! SK -- Shakthi Ka

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:03:33PM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: > > for decades. Fedora 14's init system isn't that different to the first version > of RHL (4.0) I started using back in 96. > This is somewhat misleading. There have been many rewrites of the init system in the past decade. In f

Re: Packaging cross toolchains with different versions

2011-06-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 06/12/2011 05:19 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > I am starting to package cross-toolchains for Fedora/RHEL. Is it > possible to have multiple versions of the same toolchain installed > [1]? > > I went through the Fedora Embedded SIG [2] wiki page, and found that > most packages don't have re

Packaging cross toolchains with different versions

2011-06-11 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, I am starting to package cross-toolchains for Fedora/RHEL. Is it possible to have multiple versions of the same toolchain installed [1]? I went through the Fedora Embedded SIG [2] wiki page, and found that most packages don't have revisions in their names (for example: avr-binutils). In other

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
John5342 wrote: > I forget which one exactly contains the mp3 plugin gstreamer-plugins-ugly, I believe > i just install all of them and then i don't have to worry about any > other format i may one day come across. ditto > The same plugins are also used by just about every other form of KDE >

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > John5342 wrote: > >> Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when >> using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-* >> in f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the default) unless >> you changed the bac

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread John5342
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 22:59, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > John5342 wrote: > > > Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when > > using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-* in > > f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the def

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
John5342 wrote: > Hence xine-lib-extras-freeworld should make no difference to amarok when > using the default backend anyway. You probably want gstreamer-plugins-* in > f15+ (or whenever phonon-backend-gstreamer became the default) unless you > changed the back end manually. Oh, so you mean I ne

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Neal Becker
Gilboa Davara wrote: > >> > 1. Easy setup of networking (bridged). >> Just to followup, to setup bridged net on kvm I need to reboot my server. >> That's a non-starter. > > And long as you're will to do the hard work yourself, there's no need to > reboot your machine. > > 1. Create a bridge co

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread John5342
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 19:02, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > there's one third-party KDE-Platform-based application still using > > xine-lib for the foreseeable future: Kaffeine. > > kaffeine has begun to look kind of shabby. I always installed it, as xine > appeared to h

Re: Different behaviour on gcc 4.6?

2011-06-11 Thread Christoph Frieben
2011/6/11 Sergio Belkin: > /* confdefs.h */ > #define PACKAGE_NAME "UpTools" > #define PACKAGE_TARNAME "UpTools" > #define PACKAGE_VERSION "8.5.5" > #define PACKAGE_STRING "UpTools 8.5.5" > #define PACKAGE_BUGREPORT "bugs-upto...@palermo.edu" > #define PACKAGE_URL "" > #define PACKAGE "UpTools" > #

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-06-11 12:11, Lucas wrote: > Actually it does relabel by it self after boot with option "selinux=0" That sounds rather useful. How does it know whether or not it was previously booted with selinux=0? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mail

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 19:30:10 +0200, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it > > comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance. > > With the latest VB and the SATA controller I see faster performance in the > VM over bare hardware. Th

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
On 06/11/2011 11:00 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > Lucas gmail.com> writes: > >> I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, >> but still have real problems >> with boot. >> If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting >> services. And I can't find

Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Andre Robatino
Lucas gmail.com> writes: > I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, > but still have real problems > with boot. > If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting > services. And I can't find any errors. > More important that I have changed seli

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
On 06/11/2011 08:42 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 20:47:41 +0400, >Lucas wrote: >> >> I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, but >> still have real problems >> with boot. >> If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is sta

wanting to orphan htmldoc

2011-06-11 Thread Adam Goode
Hi, I'd like to give up ownership for htmldoc. Please, if anyone is interested, take it. Here are the packages that depend on it: htmldoc-0:1.8.27-13.fc12.src LabPlot-0:1.6.0.2-8.fc12.src diveintopython-0:5.4-18.fc15.src mathomatic-0:15.5.0-1.fc15.src mlton-0:20100608-3.fc15.src (my packa

Re: orphaning xine-lib, EOL'ing phonon-backend-xine

2011-06-11 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Kevin Kofler wrote: > there's one third-party KDE-Platform-based application still using > xine-lib for the foreseeable future: Kaffeine. kaffeine has begun to look kind of shabby. I always installed it, as xine appeared to have the most complete set of codecs. Can other programs now deal with

Re: Buildbot package

2011-06-11 Thread philippe makowski
2011/5/26 Gianluca Sforna : > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Michael Schwendt > wrote: >>  buildbot-master >>  buildbot-slave >>  buildbot : meta-package which requires -master and -slave > > Good. I guess I can produce both buildbot and buildbot-master from the > current "buildbot" package, s

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Michael Cronenworth
- Original message - > > As for the subject at hand, -I- find VB a far inferior solution when it > comes to SMP and IO (disk/network) performance. With the latest VB and the SATA controller I see faster performance in the VM over bare hardware. > Sure, during the years I've create a lar

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 20:47:41 +0400, Lucas wrote: > > I use systemd-28-3.fc16.i686 and updated it when it became available, but > still have real problems > with boot. > If it stops it happens definitely in systemd job - when it is starting > services. > And I can't find any errors. > Mor

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
On 06/11/2011 08:35 PM, Tom London wrote: > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Lucas wrote: >> >> I can only boot if selinux is disabled - "selinux=0" in grub. Otherwise boot >> always stops in >> different moments. >> I can't figured out which problem is this - selinux or systemd? >> -- > > Does t

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Tom London
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Lucas wrote: > > I can only boot if selinux is disabled - "selinux=0" in grub. Otherwise boot > always stops in > different moments. > I can't figured out which problem is this - selinux or systemd? > -- Does this sound like it? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_b

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Lucas
I can only boot if selinux is disabled - "selinux=0" in grub. Otherwise boot always stops in different moments. I can't figured out which problem is this - selinux or systemd? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Gilboa Davara
> > 1. Easy setup of networking (bridged). > Just to followup, to setup bridged net on kvm I need to reboot my server. > That's a non-starter. And long as you're will to do the hard work yourself, there's no need to reboot your machine. 1. Create a bridge configuration for each target network

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Gilboa Davara
On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 16:25 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > On 10/06/11 16:12, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > > Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > >> They are available, but I think you have to build them yourself from > >> source. All the information is here: > > > > 2. Make guest additions dead simp

Re: Bodhi v0.8 in production

2011-06-11 Thread Tom Callaway
On 06/10/2011 01:21 PM, Luke Macken wrote: >* Buildroot Override Management > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bodhi/BuildRootOverrides In case you missed it, this means you can now do your own BuildRoot Overrides, as opposed to filing a ticket with rel-eng and waiting for them to do it man

Re: Are 3.0 kernels working for anyone?

2011-06-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 01:19:25PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > The 3.0 kernels are not working for me. (A cpu lockup is reporting during > boot.) I am wondering if things are broken for everyone where I should > probably just wait for updates and try again, or if I should get a picture > of the

rawhide report: 20110611 changes

2011-06-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Jun 11 08:15:30 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.i686 requires libadmsslutil.so.1 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.i686 requires libadminutil.so.1 389-admin-1.1.16-1.fc16.x86_64

Outage: Mediawiki Upgrade - 2011-06-13 18:00 UTC

2011-06-11 Thread Ricky Zhou
There will be an outage starting at 2011-06-13 18:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2011-06-13 18:00 UTC' Reason for outage: We are updating our mediawiki instan

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 12:50 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/10/2011 03:13 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > > what would be really nice is to redirect systemd discussions to its > > upstream mailing list. Fedora devel is hardly the best place for it. > > > > Rahul > > Beg to differ - rather v

SUMMARY - [Fwd: Re: [fedora-arm] Fedora 15 ARM hardfp Virtual FAD (Fedora Activity Day) - TODAY]

2011-06-11 Thread Jon Masters
--- Begin Message --- On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 04:51 -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > We are hosting a Fedora 15 hardfp Virtual Fedora Activity Day today, at > 14:00UTC (10:00 Eastern Daylight Time). The purpose of this session is > to co-ordinate the bootstrap of F15 hardfp (hardware floating point). >

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Thomas Sailer
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 09:24 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > I'd suggest you purchase a new card reader. You do realize you can > pick them up for around $10? I'd even pay you $20 if you find me one that writes those strange edge flash cards used by freeflight GPS devices. Tom -- devel mailing l

Re: F15 / VirtualBox

2011-06-11 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 06/10/2011 06:12 PM, Thomas Sailer wrote: > - USB is not really workable. Trying it just now with up2date F15 > crashed qemu (guest rawhide) when trying to assign a host USB device to > the guest > If you're seriously interested in usb redirection, I'm working on seriously improving that

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 9:17 AM, drago01 wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko > wrote: > > Hi Lennart, > > > > systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process > > I ever played with. > > > > Granted, systemd does a bit more that "typical" init, but I think > >

Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-11 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 06/11/2011 10:15 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > In the meanwhile if you know your package contains executable scripts > and was built within the last month (for rawhide), it will need a rebuild. I suppose there are many cases where the missing script dependency does not actually matter, because

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread drago01
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Denys Vlasenko wrote: > Hi Lennart, > > systemd is eating a lot more memory than any other init process > I ever played with. > > Granted, systemd does a bit more that "typical" init, but I think > using *eleven plus megabytes* of malloced space is a bit much. ~11

Re: systemd: please stop trying to take over the world :)

2011-06-11 Thread Peter Robinson
On 11 Jun 2011 03:35, "Rahul Sundaram" wrote: > > On 06/11/2011 05:20 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Lets be blunt here - he pushed very very very hard on these very lists > > to get systemd in - now its in F15 and there are problems - so no > > punting please. Upstream and fedora are the same f

Re:

2011-06-11 Thread Andy Shevchenko
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: >>> ./configure LDFLAGS="-no-install" >> >>> configure:3659: gcc   -no-install conftest.c  >&5 >>> gcc: error: unrecognized option '-no-install' > I've found an example here: > It's useful if someone wants to avoid the wrappers generation (lo

Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/11/2011 10:15 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 06/11/2011 12:14 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:59:18 +0300 >> Panu Matilainen wrote: >> >>> On 06/10/2011 02:28 AM, Josh Stone wrote: On 06/02/2011 01:26 PM, Josh Stone wrote: > Our dtrace script in systemtap-sdt-deve

Re: rawhide missed an implicit dependency for #!python

2011-06-11 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 06/11/2011 12:14 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jun 2011 13:59:18 +0300 > Panu Matilainen wrote: > >> On 06/10/2011 02:28 AM, Josh Stone wrote: >>> On 06/02/2011 01:26 PM, Josh Stone wrote: Our dtrace script in systemtap-sdt-devel starts "#!/usr/bin/python". Usually this leads to