Re: [Help]/proc/acpi/fan empty and CPUFan never Stop

2010-11-24 Thread Thomas Spura
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:23:31 -0300 João Neto wrote: > 2010/11/24 João Neto > > > I Running Fedora 14 x64 on HP G42 250Br ( Intel 5 Series/3400Series > > Chipset Family ) on Core i3 330M; > > > > After boot, the CPU temp is 58º C, after 1 or 2 minutes, without any > operation, the CPU tem is 78º

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 21:56 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 24.11.10 15:22, Paul Wouters (p...@xelerance.com) wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check > > > ehwther it is feasible is t

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-24 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/25/2010 01:13 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/22/2010 01:23 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> >> ... rolling releases ... > > > > Interesting website - may be useful in thinking about the release > cycle ... or not :-) > > http://oswate

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-24 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/22/2010 01:23 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > ... rolling releases ... Interesting website - may be useful in thinking about the release cycle ... or not :-) http://oswatershed.org/ -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org h

New gtk-vnc slower?

2010-11-24 Thread Jerry James
I have a collection of virtual machines that I use to test cross-platform compatibility of some code I'm developing. Today, the virtual machine I was working on kept getting slower and slower whenever a window refresh was needed. It got to the point that refreshing a terminal window was taking ne

HEADS-UP: openbabel ABI version bump in rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Dear fellow maintainers, I'm building a new version of openbabel in rawhide and it comes with an ABI version bump. The affected packages needing a rebuild are: avogadro ghemical gnome-chemistry-utils kdeedu xdrawchem Please don't hesitate to contact me if you encounter any problems. Regards, Domi

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-24 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:04:30PM -0800, Mike Fedyk wrote: > This still builds a reactive system instead of a preventative system. > An only reactive system will not help prevent bad updates from getting > out in the first place. > > That said, adding a reactive component to a preventative syste

Re: [Help]/proc/acpi/fan empty and CPUFan never Stop

2010-11-24 Thread João Neto
2010/11/24 João Neto > I Running Fedora 14 x64 on HP G42 250Br ( Intel 5 Series/3400Series Chipset > Family ) on Core i3 330M; > After boot, the CPU temp is 58º C, after 1 or 2 minutes, without any operation, the CPU tem is 78º C, this is a kernel bug? A Have a friend with some problem with othe

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:39 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 03:58:26PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Wed, 24.11.10 03:02, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > A question I'd have when looking over a proposed packaging guideline would > > > be: why

[perl-Sub-WrapPackages/f13/master] Bump the release tag

2010-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit a59a03ea62a0b129098f94e6300d2885766d5bcd Author: Emmanuel Seyman Date: Wed Nov 24 23:05:17 2010 +0100 Bump the release tag perl-Sub-WrapPackages.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Sub-WrapPackages.spec b/perl-Sub-WrapPackages.spec

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Michael Schwendt wrote: > There are not enough [human] resources to update Fn-1 in any way it would > be close[r] to the current release. You can observe it everywhere (even by > drawing conclusions about ABRT reports) that Fn-2 is abandoned by our > users months before its EOL date. Uh, we'd have

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 21:25, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check > > ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some job > > is scheduled. I.e. use .path trigger to check whether /etc/crontab and > > user

[perl-Sub-WrapPackages/f13/master] Remove perl(lib) from the Provides set (#657015).

2010-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 9694106fbc075cd020f6f0acc11510a1c7b57d36 Author: Emmanuel Seyman Date: Wed Nov 24 22:59:02 2010 +0100 Remove perl(lib) from the Provides set (#657015). perl-Sub-WrapPackages.spec |5 + 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Sub-WrapPackages.s

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : > On Wed, 24.11.10 22:32, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> I wanted to convert httpd, and I saw that it's already converted and >> it uses socket >> >> httpd.socket >> ListenStream=80 > > Where do I find this? Its not in the pkg git tree nor in bugzi

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : > On Wed, 24.11.10 22:08, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >> Someone uses cherokee web server? Please check this service >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657085 > > Looks good (haven't tested it though, and don't really know > cherokee

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 22:32, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > I wanted to convert httpd, and I saw that it's already converted and > it uses socket > > httpd.socket > ListenStream=80 Where do I find this? Its not in the pkg git tree nor in bugzilla? > What if administrator want to chan

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-24 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wednesday 24 November 2010, Jesse Keating wrote: > ccache - my build can be tagged I'll most likely push an update to ccache soon so no need to tag this one. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 03:58:26PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 24.11.10 03:02, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > Imho there should be a packaging guideline to make it clear what needs > > > > to be done in which cases. E.g. when to %ghost files and when not. > >

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
I wanted to convert httpd, and I saw that it's already converted and it uses socket httpd.socket ListenStream=80 What if administrator want to change port to other? Let's say, that I've got configured three servers: 80 - cherokee 81 - apache 82 - nginx In this enviroment httpd.socket should trig

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 22:08, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Someone uses cherokee web server? Please check this service > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657085 Looks good (haven't tested it though, and don't really know cherokee). In this case however, I think it would

[perl-Sub-WrapPackages] Remove perl(lib) from the Provides set. (#657015)

2010-11-24 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 14a4e7818e99173c8577b8f05f66ee8127f406fc Author: Emmanuel Seyman Date: Wed Nov 24 22:25:06 2010 +0100 Remove perl(lib) from the Provides set. (#657015) perl-Sub-WrapPackages.spec |6 +- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Sub-WrapPackages.

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Someone uses cherokee web server? Please check this service https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=657085 Kind regards, Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 21:30, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2010/11/24 Paul Wouters : > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > >> BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check > >> ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 15:22, Paul Wouters (p...@xelerance.com) wrote: > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check > > ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some job > > is scheduled. I.e. use .path

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 14:29, Chris Adams (cmad...@hiwaay.net) wrote: > > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > > We currently still use the old securetty tool to patch those terminals > > into /etc/securetty on demand. I have submitted a patch to pam_securetty > > however, to make it look for

[Help]/proc/acpi/fan empty and CPUFan never Stop

2010-11-24 Thread João Neto
Hello. I Have a HP g42 series notebook, in Fedora 14 x64 the CPU Fan never stop. In notebook bios have a option: FAN AWAYS On But the Fan Never stop, on Fedora. The directory /proc/acpi/fan is empty, the chipset driver do not discovery my cpufan driver? I Running Fedora 14 x64 on HP G42 250Br

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
W dniu 24 listopada 2010 21:34 użytkownik Tomasz Torcz napisał: > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:30:03PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2010/11/24 Paul Wouters : >> > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > >> >> BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check >> >>

Re: F13 update issue..

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:25:15 -0700, Nathanael wrote: > Hello, > >My aunt has F13 installed.. I got the following from her. Is this a > known bug ?? I can't make heads or tails of the error message or what to > tell her to do to resolve it. > > ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: > perl

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 09:30:03PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2010/11/24 Paul Wouters : > > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > >> BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check > >> ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some job >

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Paul Wouters : > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check >> ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some job >> is scheduled. I.e. use .path trigger to check whether /etc/crontab and >> u

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 10:19 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 17:18:44 +0100, > Michał Piotrowski wrote: > > W dniu 21 listopada 2010 12:13 użytkownik Michał Piotrowski > > napisał: > > > We can create a list of all scripts in wiki and > > > maintainers of individual packa

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > We currently still use the old securetty tool to patch those terminals > into /etc/securetty on demand. I have submitted a patch to pam_securetty > however, to make it look for console= on the kernel cmdline internally, > which when merged allows us to

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : > On Wed, 24.11.10 13:59, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >> 2010/11/24 Tomasz Torcz : >> > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 01:41:49PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> >> 2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : >> >> > On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (m

F13 update issue..

2010-11-24 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Hello, My aunt has F13 installed.. I got the following from her. Is this a known bug ?? I can't make heads or tails of the error message or what to tell her to do to resolve it. ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: perl-libs = 4:5.10.1-112.fc13 is needed by perl-4:5.10.1-112.fc13.i686 per

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > BTW, regarding at and cron: what I was thinking of but never check > ehwther it is feasible is to make cron/at autostart a soon as some job > is scheduled. I.e. use .path trigger to check whether /etc/crontab and > user jobs exist, and start cron on

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 13:59, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2010/11/24 Tomasz Torcz : > > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 01:41:49PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > >> 2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : > >> > On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> > > >> >>

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:01:49 +0100, Kevin wrote: > I think it's a big mistake to provide only second-class support for > Fn-1. The assertion that that's what the people on Fn-1 want is just > unfounded, based on a misunderstanding of why people use Fn-1. There are not enough [human] resources t

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:07 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > Also, it's this kind of situations, where Fedora's QA's "delays" have > shown to be counter-productive. To be clear, they are not QA's delays. The initial proposal to FESCo was by mjg, the revised proposal was by notting, and it was FESC

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 00:06, Paul Wouters (p...@xelerance.com) wrote: > > On Thu, 11 Nov 2010, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > That way most distros would only have to install one getty implementation, > > and can use it for both serial consoles and VCs. > > Yes please. > > Bonus points for anacon

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-24 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/23/2010 06:28 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 11/23/2010 07:36 PM, Jan Vcelak wrote: >> On Tuesday 23 November 2010 19:13:09, Panu Matilainen wrote: >>> Another related thing is that Berkeley DB which openldap uses is >>> notoriously picky about getting updated. I'm fairly certain openldap doe

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 10:45, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) wrote: > > On 11/24/2010 08:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Tue, 23.11.10 16:56, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) wrote: > > > >>> Imho there should be a packaging guideline to make it clear what needs > >>> to be done

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-24 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 11:03:41 +0100, Ralf wrote: > On 11/24/2010 10:45 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > > Dne 24.11.2010 03:28, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): > >> No, it's not your fault (Or at least only partially). A functional QA > >> would catch such kind of breakages. > > > > Yes, but functional QA would r

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Callum Lerwick
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Nicholas Miell wrote: > On 11/23/2010 02:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> On Tue, 23.11.10 13:41, Nicholas Miell (nmi...@gmail.com) wrote: >>> On 11/23/2010 12:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya! I hereby want to let everybody know that in the

Minutes/Summary from today's FESCo meeting (2010-11-24)

2010-11-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Due to folks traveling for the holiday, we didn't have quorum today. === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-11-24) === Meeting started by nirik at 18:30:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meetin

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 11/24/2010 08:00 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 23.11.10 16:56, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) wrote: > >>> Imho there should be a packaging guideline to make it clear what needs >>> to be done in which cases. E.g. when to %ghost files and when not. >> >> I'm curious, one of my

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Howarth
On 24/11/10 16:39, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Paul Howarth wrote: >> However, most affected packages probably have directories rather than >> files here, and *those* shouldn't need %ghost-ing because re-creating >> them using a tmpfiles.d/*.conf file should be enough to keep rpm hap

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Paul Howarth wrote: >> This remark makes no sense? If they "already" needed ghosting, then the >> mass-file should >> be needed? > > Files are directories are currently treated differently. The initscripts > clean out files from /var/lock and /var/run but leave directories al

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Howarth
On 24/11/10 16:07, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Petr Lautrbach wrote: > >>> - Many .spec files currently own subdirs of /var/run. These need to be >>> updated to %ghost those dirs only, so that the automatic removal of >>> these files/dirs on boot doesnt cause rpm to complain.

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 24 Nov 2010, Petr Lautrbach wrote: >> - Many .spec files currently own subdirs of /var/run. These need to be >>updated to %ghost those dirs only, so that the automatic removal of >>these files/dirs on boot doesnt cause rpm to complain. The list of >> packages >>which own such

Review swaps again

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I would like to exchange reviews - here is my wish-list (all these packages are Erlang-related): * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/638909 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/648023 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/652585 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/652616 * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/652648 Fee

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Petr Lautrbach
On 11/23/2010 09:48 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya! > ... > - Many .spec files currently own subdirs of /var/run. These need to be >updated to %ghost those dirs only, so that the automatic removal of >these files/dirs on boot doesnt cause rpm to complain. The list of packages >whi

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.11.10 16:56, Nathanael D. Noblet (nathan...@gnat.ca) wrote: > > Imho there should be a packaging guideline to make it clear what needs > > to be done in which cases. E.g. when to %ghost files and when not. > > I'm curious, one of my packages has /var/run/dspam in the specfile and > /v

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 03:02, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > Imho there should be a packaging guideline to make it clear what needs > > > to be done in which cases. E.g. when to %ghost files and when not. > > > > I guess extending the guidelines with a line or two about this is a goo

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.11.10 11:13, Paul Howarth (p...@city-fan.org) wrote: > > Hmm, it has been suggested that we should make it possible to create > > these dirs in the .spec files by invoking the systemd-tmpfiles tool > > directly from the scriptlets. I guess we should add a nice interface for > > that. In

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 24/11/10 01:41, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:54:47PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> I think the fact that we get less disks accesses (just think noatime and >> stuff for the files dropped there) is more interesting than using the >> absolute minimal amount of memory. >

Re: Fedora release model (was Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17))

2010-11-24 Thread Genes MailLists
On 11/22/2010 09:44 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 11/22/2010 04:21 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 11/22/2010 12:59 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > >>> It seems like what you want is actually not to have three releases at a >>> time at all but to have one and update it constantly. And I

[perl-Test-Fatal/f14/master] Initial import of perl-Test-Fatal 0.003-1

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 781ff92... Initial import of perl-Test-Fatal 0.003-1 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

[perl-Test-Fatal/f13/master] Initial import of perl-Test-Fatal 0.003-1

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 781ff92... Initial import of perl-Test-Fatal 0.003-1 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-24 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 09:51:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Well, what's unfortunate is that HAL got deprecated long before replacements > for all its parts were ready. KDE already waited for quite some time before > implementing the replacements for HAL and was heavily criticized for that

Re: Passing ownership of mingetty

2010-11-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Paul Wouters said: > Bonus points for anaconda configuring a working agetty login if the install > console was serial. That is, run agetty using the same linespeed as the > install and add the serial device to securetty. This is handled automatically now; if the kernel console i

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 10:09:25PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Meanwhile, NetworkManager is doing absolutely nothing for me, and is > > taking up a USS of 65.3M. If we're gonna tilt at memory consumption > > windmills, how about we take a look at that one? > Are you sure that's right? Accordi

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-24 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/23/2010 08:54 PM, Ben Boeckel wrote: > Jan Vcelak wrote: >> This is the problem: The database migration could take a really long time. I >> have testing data with 56 entries (nodes) - exporting (slapcat) is quite >> fast, >> but importing (sl

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Pádraig Brady
On 23/11/10 20:48, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya! > > I hereby want to let everybody know that in the next days I will turn on > /var/run and /var/lock on tmpfs on Rawhide/F15. This is in accordance > with the following accepted F15 feature: We run stateless systems here and both of the above

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Marcela Mašláňová : > On 11/24/2010 01:41 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : >>> On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: >>> Hi, I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion action should be

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Tomasz Torcz : > On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 01:41:49PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: >> 2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : >> > On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: >> > >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion >>

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 11/24/2010 01:41 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : >> On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion >>> action should be coordinated. >>> >>> Comments, thoughts

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-24)

2010-11-24 Thread Steven Parrish
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Adam Jackson (a...@redhat.com) said: >> On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 13:05 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo >> > meeting tomorrow at 18:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on >> >

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 01:41:49PM +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : > > On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion > >> action should be coordinated. >

Re: F15 Feature - convert as many service init files as possible to the native SystemD services

2010-11-24 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2010/11/24 Lennart Poettering : > On Sun, 21.11.10 00:46, Michał Piotrowski (mkkp...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion >> action should be coordinated. >> >> Comments, thoughts? > > I would certainly welcome any work in this direction!

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-24 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > * Change FN-1 to just security and major bugfix. Nothing else allowed. So, if: 1) a package is updated because of a security problem 2) next day, FN+1 is released 3) next day, it is found that the fix in 1) has a very minor bug (e.g. typo in a string) 4) the string is not f

Re: update for openldap available

2010-11-24 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 24.11.2010 12:24, Radek Vokál napsal(a): > On 11/23/2010 06:51 PM, Jan Vcelak wrote: >> Just submitted to updates-testing. Please, test. >> >> 656257 - Upgrade from 2.4.22-7 to 2.4.23-3 breaks slapd >> 655899 - outdated list of overlays in slapd.conf >> 652822 - ldapsearch -Z hangs server if st

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/24/2010 12:22 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:31:15AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: >> On 11/23/2010 06:51 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >>> IMO, the real problem is not "backports" vs. "upgrading" to "fix bugs", >>> it's bugs not getting fixed in Fedora, for a var

rawhide report: 20101124 changes

2010-11-24 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Nov 24 08:15:05 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) bognor-regis-0.6.11-1

Re: Updates Criteria Summary/Brainstorming

2010-11-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:39:27PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > There's one easy but deeply flawed way to do this -- automatically create > > a usern...@fedoraproject.org bugzilla account for the user with the > > password used in FAS. Deeply flawed in this case because

Re: update for openldap available

2010-11-24 Thread Radek Vokál
On 11/23/2010 06:51 PM, Jan Vcelak wrote: > Just submitted to updates-testing. Please, test. > > 656257 - Upgrade from 2.4.22-7 to 2.4.23-3 breaks slapd > 655899 - outdated list of overlays in slapd.conf > 652822 - ldapsearch -Z hangs server if starttls fails > > Jan Honzo, dik za rychlou reakci a

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 08:31:15AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 11/23/2010 06:51 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > IMO, the real problem is not "backports" vs. "upgrading" to "fix bugs", > > it's bugs not getting fixed in Fedora, for a variety of reasons. > > > > Therefore, I consider try

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 05:51:06AM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Mike Fedyk píše v Po 22. 11. 2010 v 18:03 -0800: > > Also security updates should not have any other changes mixed in. > In the early days of Fedora, it was explicitly decided that (contra > Debian) maintainers are not required to ba

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Paul Howarth
On 23/11/10 23:01, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 23.11.10 23:02, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: > >> The release notes section contains this: >> | /var/run and /var/lock are now mounted from tmpfs, and hence emptied on >> | reboot. Applications must ensure to recreate their own files

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 12:01:45AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 23.11.10 23:02, Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) wrote: > > > The release notes section contains this: > > | /var/run and /var/lock are now mounted from tmpfs, and hence emptied on > > | reboot. Applications must ensure

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-24 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 11/24/2010 10:45 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 24.11.2010 03:28, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): >> No, it's not your fault (Or at least only partially). A functional QA >> would catch such kind of breakages. > > Yes, but functional QA would require more manpower than Fedora QA > currently has. That's

Re: Urgent: today's F14 catastrophe with openldap-servers update

2010-11-24 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 24.11.2010 03:28, Ralf Corsepius napsal(a): > No, it's not your fault (Or at least only partially). A functional QA > would catch such kind of breakages. Yes, but functional QA would require more manpower than Fedora QA currently has. Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-24 Thread Peter Robinson
> Here is a list of the current known potentially bad builds and what > action could be or has been taken: The below I either maintain or co-maintain. Ignore, I have another build that needs to be pushed: > syncevolution - update in testing Fine to tag for F-14, its obsolete in F-15 (I thought i

Re: [HEADS-UP] Moving /var/run and /var/lock to tmpfs in Rawhide

2010-11-24 Thread Akira TAGOH
This may be not a question for you but just wonder.. > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:48:30 +0100, > "LP" == Lennart Poettering wrote: LP> http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/tmpfiles.d.html That sounds like creating a directory at the boot time though, does this mean rebooting are required

Re: Package rebuilds for gcc bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=634757

2010-11-24 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > On 11/24/2010 12:45 AM, Jesse Keating wrote: >> On 10/5/10 3:27 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > >> >> Here is a list of the current known potentially bad builds and what >> action could be or has been taken: >> >> wildmidi - my rebuil