Re: Reminder: Fedora 14 Feature Freeze is Next Week (2010-07-27)

2010-07-20 Thread Peter Czanik
Hello, 2010-07-21 06:18 keltezéssel, John Poelstra írta: > Feature Freeze means that all accepted feature for the release are > *significantly* "feature complete", ready for testing, and have a > current status. > What does it from the software version point of view? I'm asking because of the

Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Till Maas
Hi, I want to thank everyone for their get well wishes. I am already a lot better than I was when I wrote the initial mail and have full internet access again. The mail might have been a little premature, but this is what happens if one has access to an internet phone too soon after an accident. I

Re: dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
> $ cat Makefile > # Makefile for source rpm: pungi > # $Id$ > .PHONY :: $(ARCHES) sources uploadsource upload export check build-check [...] Just use a single .DEFAULT: or %: rule, you don't need to list anything. (And :: is almost never what you meant.) Thanks, Roland -- devel mailing list de

Re: dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
> It was suggested to keep the Makefile that exists in every package > module/branch in CVS right now, but set it up so that any Make command > issued would print a reminder to the user that the Make system has been > retired and to use fedpkg. So the expectation would be people leave this boile

Re: dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/2010 10:48 PM, Pierre-Yves wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 22:38 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: >> $ make tag >> Make system retired, please use fedpkg. See fedpkg --help >> >> Suggestions on what to put in here? > Might be nice to already print

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
> > Using names like f13, el5, and so forth would also keep dist-git > > consistent with git branch naming conventions. If we were to do > > something like that we might as well just use the value of %{dist}. But that's just too obviously right for us to be allowed to do it! > That was going t

Re: dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Pierre-Yves
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 22:38 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > $ make tag > Make system retired, please use fedpkg. See fedpkg --help > > Suggestions on what to put in here? Might be nice to already print the equivalent command: $ make tag Make system retired, please use fedpkg. The equivalent funct

dist-git wordsmithing wanted

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It was suggested to keep the Makefile that exists in every package module/branch in CVS right now, but set it up so that any Make command issued would print a reminder to the user that the Make system has been retired and to use fedpkg. I could use so

Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Chen Lei
2010/7/20 Andy Shevchenko : > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target? > I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for working on jack2, but the > question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As fa

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/2010 08:55 PM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 7/20/2010 19:13, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: >> BTW, while typing the above, I have noted that "master" or "devel" or >> "f13" are quite easy to type, while "F-13" with capital letter and >> hyphe

Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:54 PM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:04 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: >> > question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far >> > as I know the package name should be d

Reminder: Fedora 14 Feature Freeze is Next Week (2010-07-27)

2010-07-20 Thread John Poelstra
It's hard to believe, but the window for full blown feature development closes soon. A friendly reminder that next Tuesday, July 27, 2010 is Feature Freeze for Fedora 14. Feature Freeze means that all accepted feature for the release are *significantly* "feature complete", ready for testing, a

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 7/20/2010 19:13, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > BTW, while typing the above, I have noted that "master" or "devel" or > "f13" are quite easy to type, while "F-13" with capital letter and > hyphen is relatively complicated. Perhaps that could be an argument when > choosing branch names. Using n

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Iain Arnell
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Christof Damian wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 00:33, Roland McGrath wrote: >> My opinion is that a branch called F-/master is the nicest thing. >> Actually, all else being equal, I'd probably go for it being called >> f/master, since gratuitous caps and punctua

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 15:42 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> Perhaps someone could put together a wiki page for lazy sysadmins with >> a Q&A? ie, I used to do this in upstart/sysvinit, how do I do it with >> systemd? > > Jóhann Guðmundsson (v

Re: Partial mass rebuild for Python 2.7 coming soon (I hope)

2010-07-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:02 PM, David Malcolm wrote: > I'm planning to do a partial mass-rebuild for Python 2.7. Please, when you hit build failures, and you will if you can provide a link to a failure report that is easily searchable(if not sorted by) primary package owner. That will help

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 17:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Here's one nice feature I'd like to see for a simple scenario of when > upstream releases a new stable version: > > 1. Edit the 'master' branch spec file. > 2. git commit my change. > 3. git rebase my F-* branches to master. > 4. Su

Partial mass rebuild for Python 2.7 coming soon (I hope)

2010-07-20 Thread David Malcolm
I'm planning to do a partial mass-rebuild for Python 2.7. This would cover all Python 2 users within the distribution, roughly 1000 src.rpms. Some notes can be seen at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.7/MassRebuild I hoped to start this tomorrow (2010-07-21) at 16:00 UTC, but it

Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Rafael Aquini
Hello all, Sundaram wrote: > > > >> It is all listed at > >> > >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TillMaas > Despite I'm don't have sponsorship yet, I'd like to help as much as I can. If it is possible, I'd like to be co-maintainer of some packages of yours. Regards and I hope you get well very

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/2010 03:32 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > Roland McGrath wrote: >> My first suggestion was not to have the magical leading "F-/" >> matching at all. Rather, just have fedpkg front-end commands set and >> show the state of branch.SOMEBRANCH.

Outage: Updates - 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC

2010-07-20 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
There will be an outage starting at 2010-07-21 16:00 UTC, which will last approximately 3 hours. Outages will be small but noticeable for small segments as systems are updated and rebooted. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or r

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Roland McGrath wrote: > My first suggestion was not to have the magical leading "F-/" > matching at all. Rather, just have fedpkg front-end commands set and > show the state of branch.SOMEBRANCH.fedora-target settings. e.g., > 'fedpkg checkout foo' would both do 'git checkout foo' and set the > b

Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread David Timms
On 21/07/10 02:54, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:04 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: >>> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/2010 03:07 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 09:03 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:09:50PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: >>> >>> Seriously? Nobody has an opinion here? Or will this just be another >

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 09:03 -0400, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:09:50PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > > > Seriously? Nobody has an opinion here? Or will this just be another > > case of "ZOMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS STUPID THING" as soon as it rolls out... > > > I'm not aro

Re: [389-devel] Please Review: (adminserver) Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP

2010-07-20 Thread Nathan Kinder
On 07/20/2010 02:27 PM, Rich Megginson wrote: > Nathan Kinder wrote: > >> >> >> -- >> 389-devel mailing list >> 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org >> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel >> > ack

Re: [389-devel] Please Review: (adminserver) Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP

2010-07-20 Thread Rich Megginson
Nathan Kinder wrote: > > > > -- > 389-devel mailing list > 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel ack -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://

[389-devel] Please Review: (adminserver) Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP

2010-07-20 Thread Nathan Kinder
>From 56824d9699ad2f471ac4ec30c24c0600735e42f7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nathan Kinder Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 14:18:00 -0700 Subject: [PATCH] Fix perl URL parsing code to work with OpenLDAP. When using PerLDAP built against OpenLDAP, the URL parsing works a bit differently. This patch mak

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-07-20)

2010-07-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-07-20) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-20/fesco.2010-07-20-19.30.log.html Meeting summary -

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 04:16:04PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was > fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including > updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. > Empathy no longer ha

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
> My first idea would be for fedpkg to do something similar to the > following when trying to find out the target to build for: > > 0. If "--target F-13" is given, use that as target. > If not, continue. > 1. Determine the current git branch ($origbranch=$curbranch). > 2. Check 'git con

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Roland McGrath
> That said, I don't think I'd use either HEAD or master as the branch name > since they both have some sort of association with how git itself works > unless the name actually matches 100% with the concept that you're trying to > express here. This is nothing more or less than our convention for

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-07-20)

2010-07-20 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 12:41:39PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. > I must send my regrets for todays meeting, I've got to run an errand this afte

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 05:30:04PM +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > It seems empathy and everything related to it has lost the ability to > execute programs. What if you setenforce 0? -- Matthew Garrett | mj...@srcf.ucam.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedora

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/20/2010 05:52 AM, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote: > On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 17:07 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > >> I've been struggling with a particular wrinkle in dist-git, how fedpkg >> is supposed to reliably discover what Fedora release a pack

[Bug 612875] perl-Class-C3 FTBFS : BuildRequires Self!

2010-07-20 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=612875 Mark Chappell changed: What|Removed |Added -

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth wrote: > When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was > fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including > updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. > Empathy no longer has any o

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread yunus
> Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 ? 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a ?crit : > > When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was > > fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including > > updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. > > Empathy

Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Fernando Lopez-Lezcano
On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 10:04 -0400, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > >> For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target? > > I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for worki

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Booth
On 20/07/10 17:22, Brian Pepple wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: >> When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was >> fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including >> updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Brian Pepple
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Matthew Booth wrote: > When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was > fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including > updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. > Empathy no longer has any of m

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Jonathan MERCIER
Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:28 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit : > On 20/07/10 16:19, Jonathan MERCIER wrote: > > Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit : > >> When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was > >> fine. I did a rather big yum update thi

Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Matthias Runge
On 07/18/2010 11:05 PM, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > I cannot maintain my packages or handle anything else until further > notice, because I had an accident. > > Regards > Till > I'm sorry to hear and get well soon. I hope it's nothing serious. Matthias -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Booth
On 20/07/10 16:19, Jonathan MERCIER wrote: > Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit : >> When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was >> fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including >> updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my

KDE-SIG meeting report (29/2010)

2010-07-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. -- = Weekly KDE Summary

Re: Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Jonathan MERCIER
Le mardi 20 juillet 2010 à 16:16 +0100, Matthew Booth a écrit : > When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was > fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including > updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. > Empathy no longer h

Lost all empathy accounts after update this morning (F13)

2010-07-20 Thread Matthew Booth
When I booted my machine this morning and started Empathy everything was fine. I did a rather big yum update this morning (including updates-testing), and I had reason to reboot my machine this afternoon. Empathy no longer has any of my accounts in it. I can't see anything obvious in yum.log wh

Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Andy Shevchenko
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: >> question is why the package name is jack-audio-connection-kit? As far >> as I know the package name should be derived from the main tarball >> name. > I thought about doing that once

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 20.07.10 16:04, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > I am not entirely sure though why those processes actually access those > dirs in this case. Maybe they are iterating through the files in /dev? > Smells a bit broken to me. OK, the udevd is a result from /lib/udev/devices

Re: jack2

2010-07-20 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 2:30 AM, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: >> For F-13 it may be a little late. So shall we make this an F-14 target? > I see new commit to the koji. Thanks for working on jack2, but the No problem. Although I was the one collect

Re: Question on SELinux AVC messages with systemd.

2010-07-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 19.07.10 13:52, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: > I am noticing the following in F14 > > type=1400 audit(1279559591.480:31): avc: denied { read } for pid=526 > comm="udevd" name="/" dev=autofs ino=9519 > scontext=system_u:system_r:udev_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 > tcontext=system_u:obj

Re: I am not available

2010-07-20 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 07/19/2010 08:19 PM, Chris Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > >> It is all listed at >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/TillMaas >> >> Rahul >> > > Thanks mate. > > Chris > I found the following more immediately useful: https://admin.fedora

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 03:09:50PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > > Seriously? Nobody has an opinion here? Or will this just be another > case of "ZOMG WHY DID YOU DO THIS STUPID THING" as soon as it rolls out... > I'm not around enough right now to be able to test anything :-(. I also don't re

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Fri, 2010-07-16 at 17:07 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > I've been struggling with a particular wrinkle in dist-git, how fedpkg > is supposed to reliably discover what Fedora release a packager is > working on. In other words: How does fedpkg map the currently checked out git HEAD to a Fedora r

gathering useful statistics for Package Maintainers

2010-07-20 Thread Kamil Paral
Hello, we would like to help Package Maintainers to increase public participation in their activities. We believe that an important step in achieving that is in rewarding the most active participants with "fame" in different top tens, ladders and charts. Therefore we would like to extend the curre

Intending to retire xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd package

2010-07-20 Thread Hans Ulrich Niedermann
Hi, I would like to retire the xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd package before it gets into F-14. Kernel based modesetting (KMS) and xorg-x11-drv-ati work really nicely and radeonhd's upstream appears stalled and has no support for KMS, so I do not see any advantage to Fedora in carrying a radeonhd package

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-20 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 12:41:11AM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > >> I think the problem was that the iscsid service was on by default, so > >> when things like libvirt install it iscsid would always start but many > >> times not be needed. > > > > In a systemd world we can fix this in a much nicer

Re: [HEADS-UP] systemd for F14 - the next steps

2010-07-20 Thread Cole Robinson
On 07/19/2010 06:41 PM, Hans de Goede wrote: >> >> In a systemd world we can fix this in a much nicer way: >> libvirtd.service would just have a "Wants: iscsid.service" in it. That >> way when libvirtd is started iscsid is started too. And if people use >> iscsid in other areas too they can just a

Re: Fedora 14 and firefox

2010-07-20 Thread Chris Jones
It'll come through as an update in the updates repo, I suspect. There might be a beta version included depending on its stability at the time of a F14 release I guess. Regards -- Chris Jones Freelance Photographic Imaging Professional and Graphic Designer ABN: 98 317 740 240 PHOTO RESOLUTIONS -

rawhide report: 20100720 changes

2010-07-20 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Jul 20 08:15:21 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- BackupPC-3.1.0-14.1.fc14.noarch requires perl-suidperl PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnarl-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requ

Re: Booting from SCSI CDROM

2010-07-20 Thread Paul Howarth
On 10/07/10 18:50, Emilio Fernandes wrote: > Hi all again... > > I have a motherboard that has no entries IDEs only sata. > When I try to install fedora 8 on this machine by the cdrom, the > instalation process started normally but when will it start anaconda > does not find the cdrom:/ks8.cfg. The

Re: Question regarding dist-git aesthetics with branches

2010-07-20 Thread Christof Damian
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 00:33, Roland McGrath wrote: > My opinion is that a branch called F-/master is the nicest thing. > Actually, all else being equal, I'd probably go for it being called > f/master, since gratuitous caps and punctuation in branch names is > not a normal git convention.  (But I

Re: trouble locally reproducing koji build error

2010-07-20 Thread Andreas Schwab
Zach Carter writes: > Howeverthe question remains, why did it build just fine with the function > header as-is on a rawhide machine and in my local mockbuild, but not when the > build was run on the koji server? Some difference in the autotools, g++ > compiler, boost? Any theories? H

Fedora 14 and firefox

2010-07-20 Thread Eric Tanguy
I read somewhere that firefox 4 would be out in november. Fedora 14 will be released at the end of october. So will fedora 14 include firefox 4 ? Thanks -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel